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Post by Bang Bang Cauliflower on Sept 16, 2024 9:28:40 GMT
Announces top tier new manager on Wednesday… “Did the right thing” “Great vision and has the club at heart” “This is what we have lacked for years” Bipolar fans r us Until that happens you can't really blame fans are unhappy. Rumour is we aint going to be happy.
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Post by lordb on Sept 16, 2024 9:29:13 GMT
If this is a knee jerk reaction to terrible game at Oxford it's appalling If they have had doubts for some time they should have sacked him in May
the only way it would make any sense at this time would b if someone really good had suddenly become available
atm it just looks like a knee jerk reaction
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Post by bayernoatcake on Sept 16, 2024 9:29:26 GMT
The signings are Walters signings.
The timing is irrelevant.
It wouldn’t have made a difference imo to what we did in the summer.
That’s the point of this model.
The issue there is that it’s our owner and a complete unknown leading it.
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Post by rickyfullerbeer on Sept 16, 2024 9:29:42 GMT
Getting a grip would have been doing it in the summer, doing it with some of the window left, doing it going into an international break. This?? Unless someone with a serious record rang him yesterday and said I fancy it, it's ridiculous. Correct. Timing doesn't make sense unless someone has suddenly come available and we need to act quickly. It's a job for Moyes IMHO. It won't be though. David Moyes won’t be interested.
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Post by teenagefanclub on Sept 16, 2024 9:29:42 GMT
Announces top tier new manager on Wednesday… “Did the right thing” “Great vision and has the club at heart” “This is what we have lacked for years” Bipolar fans r us Until that happens you can't really blame fans are unhappy. Rumour is we aint going to be happy. When were we actually last happy?
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Post by bagnallboothen on Sept 16, 2024 9:31:00 GMT
Getting a grip would have been doing it in the summer, doing it with some of the window left, doing it going into an international break. This?? Unless someone with a serious record rang him yesterday and said I fancy it, it's ridiculous. Correct. Timing doesn't make sense unless someone has suddenly come available and we need to act quickly. It's a job for Moyes IMHO. It won't be though. The timing is exactly the same as when we sacked O'Neil. I cannot for the life of me understand why we'd think it's a good idea to give it another go.
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Post by robstokie on Sept 16, 2024 9:32:12 GMT
Correct. Timing doesn't make sense unless someone has suddenly come available and we need to act quickly. It's a job for Moyes IMHO. It won't be though. The timing is exactly the same as when we sacked O'Neil. I cannot for the life of me understand why we'd think it's a good idea to give it another go. At least we can't end up with a fucking spud again can we? Then again, we ARE Stoke...
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Post by bagnallboothen on Sept 16, 2024 9:32:47 GMT
Getting a grip would have been doing it in the summer, doing it with some of the window left, doing it going into an international break. This?? Unless someone with a serious record rang him yesterday and said I fancy it, it's ridiculous. If we had sacked him in the Summer, our great fans would have been equally up in arms....'Give him a pre-season', which is fair enough Well he's been given a chance with his own pre-season and its obvious he cant cut it. He should be sacked for picking Gooch for 2 games for a start. Other clubs dont hang around. I'm glad we are finally taking that approach. For this group of players, losing so badly at Oxford, Plymouth and Watford should be unacceptable Really grown up post. You're suggesting he should be sacked for starting a player we paid money for ... and we won at Plymouth.
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Post by spitthedog on Sept 16, 2024 9:33:46 GMT
If we had sacked him in the Summer, our great fans would have been equally up in arms....'Give him a pre-season', which is fair enough Well he's been given a chance with his own pre-season and its obvious he cant cut it. He should be sacked for picking Gooch for 2 games for a start. Other clubs dont hang around. I'm glad we are finally taking that approach. For this group of players, losing so badly at Oxford, Plymouth and Watford should be unacceptable Really grown up post. You're suggesting he should be sacked for starting a player we paid money for ... and we won at Plymouth. I meant WBA
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Post by bagnallboothen on Sept 16, 2024 9:35:46 GMT
Really grown up post. You're suggesting he should be sacked for starting a player we paid money for ... and we won at Plymouth. I meant WBA Lost so badly 2-1 having hit to woodwork twice to a team currently top of the league.
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Post by spitthedog on Sept 16, 2024 9:41:56 GMT
Lost so badly 2-1 having hit to woodwork twice to a team currently top of the league. Apart from one performance v Middlesbrough youth team we have been crap. Anyone who think it's a good idea to start Gooch, should be looking for work in my book.
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Post by dirtygary69 on Sept 16, 2024 9:42:56 GMT
The signings are Walters signings. The timing is irrelevant. It wouldn’t have made a difference imo to what we did in the summer. That’s the point of this model. The issue there is that it’s our owner and a complete unknown leading it. Would surely have given someone else 12 weeks more time to put their ideas across instead of Schumacher's though? Instead we're lurching from one big idea to another, as we have done for the past 6 years. I fear we are fucked whatever happens. Personally not that fussed about the actual sacking itself as I think 9 months is enough to show you can do it, and I'm not sure he has, but I get that some consistency is required at some point and this will piss certain fans off. If this next appointment isn't a good or exciting one, and it starts badly, there is again going to be a mountain of pressure on both the new coach and, more so, the board. I don't think Super Jon will be that super for much longer.
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Post by onionman on Sept 16, 2024 9:42:57 GMT
Well it's clearly not very well planned is it - unless you think it's a good plan to give a manager the whole summer, watch him pick up a couple of wins from the first 5 games, then sack him. Is it really necessary to sit here in silence while the dust settles over every single decision that gets made by this football club? You can’t very well plan for a falling out though can you? If the sacking is due to a falling out, that reflects well on nobody.
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Post by LL Cool Dave on Sept 16, 2024 9:43:48 GMT
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Post by bayernoatcake on Sept 16, 2024 9:44:44 GMT
The signings are Walters signings. The timing is irrelevant. It wouldn’t have made a difference imo to what we did in the summer. That’s the point of this model. The issue there is that it’s our owner and a complete unknown leading it. Would surely have given someone else 12 weeks more time to put their ideas across instead of Schumacher's though? Instead we're lurching from one big idea to another, as we have done for the past 6 years. I fear we are fucked whatever happens. Personally not that fussed about the actual sacking itself as I think 9 months is enough to show you can do it, and I'm not sure he has, but I get that some consistency is required at some point and this will piss certain fans off. If this next appointment isn't a good or exciting one, and it starts badly, there is again going to be a mountain of pressure on both the new coach and, more so, the board. I don't think Super Jon will be that super for much longer. It would. And that’s annoying agreed.
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Post by bagnallboothen on Sept 16, 2024 9:45:20 GMT
You can’t very well plan for a falling out though can you? If the sacking is due to a falling out, that reflects well on nobody. If 🤣🤣🤣 There's either been a fallout or Pep knows the outcome of the hearing and can't be arsed to move to far from Manchester.
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Post by prestwichpotter on Sept 16, 2024 9:45:38 GMT
Way too early to say. Big big moment in his tenure now though....
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Post by stokiejoe on Sept 16, 2024 9:47:10 GMT
Asked on another thread but where's this negativity come from about Jon? 🤔 It gives every appearance of undermining Shuey, bringing in players without approval denying him players he wants, that's according to remarks by Pejic who is better placed to know than I am
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Post by stokiejoe on Sept 16, 2024 9:48:30 GMT
Correct. Timing doesn't make sense unless someone has suddenly come available and we need to act quickly. It's a job for Moyes IMHO. It won't be though. David Moyes won’t be interested. Hopefully he wont
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Post by spitthedog on Sept 16, 2024 9:51:11 GMT
Asked on another thread but where's this negativity come from about Jon? 🤔 It gives every appearance of undermining Shuey, bringing in players without approval denying him players he wants, that's according to remarks by Pejic who is better placed to know than I am I think when Schumacher persuaded someone to bring in Ennis, that was end of him having any say on bringing anyone in. Quite right too.
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Post by bagnallboothen on Sept 16, 2024 9:52:08 GMT
Asked on another thread but where's this negativity come from about Jon? 🤔 Mainly me I think because he's on YouTube every week asking for one think and then does another. We'll see which one of his mates is holding the scarf up come Thursday but I fear he is the latest in a long line of disastrous appointments at the club.
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Post by bagnallboothen on Sept 16, 2024 9:53:31 GMT
It gives every appearance of undermining Shuey, bringing in players without approval denying him players he wants, that's according to remarks by Pejic who is better placed to know than I am I think when Schumacher persuaded someone to bring in Ennis, that was end of him having any say on bringing anyone in. Quite right too. How old are you? Maybe City should have sacked Pep for signing Benjamin Mendy?
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Post by spitthedog on Sept 16, 2024 10:37:02 GMT
I think when Schumacher persuaded someone to bring in Ennis, that was end of him having any say on bringing anyone in. Quite right too. How old are you? Maybe City should have sacked Pep for signing Benjamin Mendy? I think you could skip the insults if you really want to carry on a conversation?
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Post by kaney78 on Sept 16, 2024 10:39:38 GMT
five games three losses including an absolute dire performance at Oxford by all accounts.We have played some decent football under SS this season but could be better.Its good to see someone at the club who isn't afraid to get rid of a manager before it's too late.Nip it in the bud early and hopefully get someone in who will mould the players and get better results.
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Post by bagnallboothen on Sept 16, 2024 10:51:13 GMT
How old are you? Maybe City should have sacked Pep for signing Benjamin Mendy? I think you could skip the insults if you really want to carry on a conversation? Both were genuine questions.
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Post by JurgenVandeurzen on Sept 16, 2024 10:52:13 GMT
We gave him the keys to the club based on his passionate (PASHUN) plea to fans...and now we're reaping the rewards.
Owner with no clue, Director with no experience, and seemingly heading in the direction of a manager with no experience either.
What could possibly go wrong?
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Post by nottsover60 on Sept 16, 2024 11:05:33 GMT
Correct. Timing doesn't make sense unless someone has suddenly come available and we need to act quickly. It's a job for Moyes IMHO. It won't be though. David Moyes won’t be interested. Good
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Post by Staffsoatcake on Sept 16, 2024 11:06:41 GMT
If he got players in Shue didn't want,then he should fuck off also.
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Post by nottsover60 on Sept 16, 2024 11:07:52 GMT
Correct. Timing doesn't make sense unless someone has suddenly come available and we need to act quickly. It's a job for Moyes IMHO. It won't be though. David Moyes won’t be interested. Good
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Post by pushon on Sept 16, 2024 11:41:25 GMT
David Moyes won’t be interested. Good I can't see Moyes being happy reporting to John Walters and has Moyes ever been regarded as a hands-on Coach?
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