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Post by mrcoke on Aug 11, 2024 11:43:58 GMT
Have we won the gold medal for the number of cycle crashes?
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Post by plug on Aug 11, 2024 13:38:13 GMT
I do wish they'd stop going on about the lady weightlifter's fantastic snatch.
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Post by PotterLog on Aug 11, 2024 14:17:06 GMT
To confuse matters further, the governing body (IBA) who ruled Imane Khelif is male, are themselves banned from any involvement in the Olympics (I think largely due to ties to organised crime). The IBA are Russian-led, and the tests on Khelif came straight after Khelif had beaten Russian boxers. Tens of countries have left the IBA, including the UK, and there's a risk Boxing won't be at the next Olympics. The “straight after beating a Russian” thing is a bit of a conspiracy tbh. It wasn’t immediately after that, and they’d fought Russians before. And the other boxer didn’t face a Russian. At the end of the day they received complaints and sent for tests at two separate accredited labs in other countries. They have the results but can’t release them - the boxers could, but don’t want to 🤔 just like they didn’t appeal them when they had the chance 🤔
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Post by Seymour Beaver on Aug 11, 2024 18:23:12 GMT
I’m going to latch onto this in case anyone cares, because it is all a bit confusing. I get the impression that some people, having heard stuff about “born female” and “intersex”, believe that Imane Khelif is a woman affected by some developmental disorder which gives her more typically masculine appearance and characteristics, and thus that it’s a bit of a grey area about whether she should compete, and that it could be unfair to her to exclude her etc. That is not the case. Imane Khelif is male, i.e. born chromosomally male, i.e. a man, as confirmed by sex tests at two accredited laboratories. If this person has an “intersex” condition (and it’s not clear they do), it is one that affects *males* in utero, giving them an ambiguous appearance at birth and underdeveloped genitalia, but *not* affecting normal physiological development (testosterone, muscle development, shoulder broadening etc) for a man in puberty. Imane Khelif May have been “raised a girl”, “assigned female” and given a female passport by Algerian authorities (or may not - it doesn’t matter but this is what the IOC care about) but they are genetically and physiologically a man. In the context of these boxing encounters it is a fully-developed adult male committing violence against women, and anyone celebrating the gold is cheering that on unfortunately. The same is true for the other Chinese Taipei boxer in these olympics, and also Caster Semenya. The answer would be to do a mandatory - and nowadays pretty simple - sex test for all athletes entering women’s categories in every sport, but for some strange reason the IOC don’t want to do that. To confuse matters further, the governing body (IBA) who ruled Imane Khelif is male, are themselves banned from any involvement in the Olympics (I think largely due to ties to organised crime). The IBA are Russian-led, and the tests on Khelif came straight after Khelif had beaten Russian boxers. Tens of countries have left the IBA, including the UK, and there's a risk Boxing won't be at the next Olympics. I must admit I've only read a bit on this and others may have more information available but the source if the controversy does appear to be the IBA. Khelif was disqualified from an IBA competition in Delhi having failed an unspecified gender test. No-one, it would appear, has been able to determine what those tests were nor have they been given access to the results. The only person saying Khelif is chromasomally male is an IBA official who declined to provide any supportive evidence. As you say, the IBA were once the supervisory organisation for the Olympics but have been kicked out for links to organised crime and corruption abd obviously have a grievance. In the meantime if Khelif is a man then he/she is not a particularly powerful one as her knockout to fight ratio is not actually that great (and considerably lower than the likes of Katie Taylor and Chantelle Cameron) when you would think that as a male he/she would be flattening all comers. On a brighter note good to see Lizzo getting a bronze for GB in the weightlifting.
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Post by FbrgVaStkFan on Aug 11, 2024 18:48:57 GMT
... Tens of countries have left the IBA, including the UK, and there's a risk Boxing won't be at the next Olympics. If women's Olympic boxing continues to be at the very poor skill level that we just witnessed, then good riddance, regardless of recent controversy.
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Post by Vadiation_Ribe on Aug 11, 2024 19:24:17 GMT
... Tens of countries have left the IBA, including the UK, and there's a risk Boxing won't be at the next Olympics. If women's Olympic boxing continues to be at the very poor skill level that we just witnessed, then good riddance, regardless of recent controversy. Olympic boxing actually is amateur level. I don't watch boxing so couldn't comment on skill levels.
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Post by wagsastokie on Aug 11, 2024 19:33:31 GMT
she set the competition back decades. I'd be surprised if its even in the next one again. people laughing /mocking at one performance, but the rest of the competitors are completely overshadowed by it. when people say "i could do better", in this case, i actually believe they could do. Slightly strange it’s dropped for la so they could bring in t20 cricket
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Post by PotterLog on Aug 11, 2024 19:35:32 GMT
In the meantime if Khelif is a man then he/she is not a particularly powerful one Exactly. It’s a pathway for mediocre men to cheat women out of medals
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Post by RedandWhite90 on Aug 11, 2024 19:37:40 GMT
Not a bad effort overall from GB.
Need a bit of a reset on cycling (indoor) and boxing in time for LA which is going to be incredibly difficult with the numbers USA will be put up in comps.
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Post by Tom_stokiepmre89 on Aug 11, 2024 19:41:13 GMT
she set the competition back decades. I'd be surprised if its even in the next one again. people laughing /mocking at one performance, but the rest of the competitors are completely overshadowed by it. when people say "i could do better", in this case, i actually believe they could do. Bad analogy, Napoleon Dynamite was good at dancing.
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Aug 11, 2024 19:46:40 GMT
Not a bad effort overall from GB. Need a bit of a reset on cycling (indoor) and boxing in time for LA which is going to be incredibly difficult with the numbers USA will be put up in comps. I think we’ve done really well with a huge range of medals. Couldn’t get into the cycling this year
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Post by Gods on Aug 11, 2024 19:53:57 GMT
We really need Graham Norton politely poking fun at this closing ceremony !
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Post by stoke1989 on Aug 11, 2024 19:58:18 GMT
Poor gold return in all the majors track & field, cycling and swimming, 12 years ago supposed to have inspired a generation, that generation should be picking up silverware now.
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Post by LL Cool Dave on Aug 11, 2024 20:05:30 GMT
Fuck me, this is boring.
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Aug 11, 2024 20:06:31 GMT
No thanks mate, I’m washing my hair tonight😉
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Post by starkiller on Aug 11, 2024 20:13:22 GMT
We definitely need a team of blokes in the women's events next Olympics, to improve the medal haul.
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Post by Mr_DaftBurger on Aug 11, 2024 20:22:33 GMT
I'm going to have nightmares tonight, flashbacks to the spikey man up 'Alley! 🤪
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Post by FbrgVaStkFan on Aug 11, 2024 21:02:48 GMT
Not sure how Breaking made it in, but Parkour didn't. Both are subjective events I suppose, but Parkour much less so in my opinion.
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Post by Gods on Aug 11, 2024 21:39:14 GMT
A fearful racket from the Star Spangled Banner girl at the end.
Oh shit, here's Tom Cruise!
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Post by Mr_DaftBurger on Aug 11, 2024 21:57:15 GMT
Dr Dre and D O double G. 😎
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Post by RF10 on Aug 11, 2024 22:01:50 GMT
That was mega. The opening ceremony is going be outrageous.
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Post by professorplump on Aug 11, 2024 22:17:32 GMT
Poor gold return in all the majors track & field, cycling and swimming, 12 years ago supposed to have inspired a generation, that generation should be picking up silverware now. To be fair they did pick up silverware, just not much goldware.
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Post by elystokie on Aug 11, 2024 22:50:03 GMT
I watched about 5 minutes and switched over when the bloke started singing opera, waste of 5 minutes.
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Post by stokienorthants on Aug 11, 2024 22:58:59 GMT
Don’t understand the love in about GB’s medal haul. Our 14 gold medals was the lowest since 2004 and below the Netherlands with a population of less than 18M.
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Post by professorplump on Aug 11, 2024 23:41:18 GMT
Don’t understand the love in about GB’s medal haul. Our 14 gold medals was the lowest since 2004 and below the Netherlands with a population of less than 18M. Depends on which way you look at it. We won the third highest number of medals and more than we did last time however unfortunately not many golds.
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Post by oggyoggy on Aug 12, 2024 6:58:36 GMT
We definitely need a team of blokes in the women's events next Olympics, to improve the medal haul. It doesn’t work like that
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Post by lancashirelad on Aug 12, 2024 9:47:15 GMT
Well thankyou to Paris for hosting a great two weeks of sports. Generally the bbc some good insight and commentaries both TV and radio.
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Post by salopstick on Aug 12, 2024 9:49:56 GMT
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Post by jimmygscfc1234 on Aug 12, 2024 10:37:28 GMT
There's such a fine line between gold and silver (and bronze), that I think the total medal haul is really good. It helps if you have a once in a lifetime swimmer like Marchand to bring in 4 golds and boost the total I guess, but I wouldn't be too critical of our team's efforts. We had a load of close calls that could have seen the medal colour change (so did other teams) and there are stories that tell a tale of bad luck so let's keep things in context.
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Post by lancashirelad on Aug 12, 2024 10:39:17 GMT
A 12 year old blog wow lets not make a issue of it. Channel 4 at least gives people the option to watch the paralympics on free to view.
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