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Post by cobhamstokey on Jul 23, 2024 18:48:27 GMT
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Post by scfcbiancorossi on Jul 23, 2024 18:54:48 GMT
Complete turd from you as usual. To quote the famously left leaning Le Monde: "When Viktor Orban became prime minister of Hungary in May 2010, following the victory of his party, Fidesz, in the April legislative elections, the country was on the verge of suffocation. Prices were soaring; the currency (the forint) was collapsing; the economy had plunged by 6.8% the previous year, triggering a surge in unemployment; and the International Monetary Fund (IMF) was called in to help". On top of that they'd had riots prior to that throughout 2006 due to their corrupt socialist PM confessing to lying in order to win the election - Protests which featured occupation of government buildings and bringing Hungary to the brink of a coup. Big Vik is great, deal with it. To be fair, he does sound exactly like the kind of bloke you and those liking your post would think is a good idea. Starting with the Second Orbán Government in 2010, during his uninterrupted stay in power, Orbán has curtailed press freedom, weakened judicial independence, and undermined multiparty democracy, amounting to democratic backsliding during Orbán's tenure. He frequently styles himself as a defender of Christian values in the face of the European Union, which he claims is anti-nationalist and anti-Christian. His portrayal of the EU as a political foe while accepting its money and funneling it to his allies and relatives has led to accusations that his government represents a kleptocracy. It has also been characterized as a hybrid regime, dominant-party system, and mafia state. Orbán defends his policies as "illiberal Christian democracy". As a result, Fidesz was suspended from the European People's Party from March 2019; in March 2021, Fidesz left the EPP over a dispute over new rule-of-law language in the latter's bylaws. In a July 2022 speech, Orbán criticized the miscegenation of European and non-European races, saying: "We [Hungarians] are not a mixed race and we do not want to become a mixed race." Two days later in Vienna, he clarified that he was talking about cultures and not about genetics. His tenure has seen Hungary's government shift towards what he has called "illiberal democracy", while simultaneously promoting Euroscepticism and opposition to liberal democracy and establishment of closer ties with China and Russia. Would this article you've posted be from a left leaning outfit by any chance?
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Post by scfcbiancorossi on Jul 23, 2024 18:58:28 GMT
What's bizarre about it mate? Im a big supporter of Orban. Most of Hungary (which was in a dire state then he took over in 2010) think he's fantastic. I just thought it was bizarre that you would say that the board would be better without politics being discussed and then in the very next sentence, make a political comment yourself, that would obviously be completely incendiary. 😂 Oh sorry mate, got you. Yes that was intentionally incendiary. I wanted in on the action. But my post was meant with the utmost sincerity and importance nevertheless 😊
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Post by scfcbiancorossi on Jul 23, 2024 19:08:15 GMT
Complete turd from you as usual. To quote the famously left leaning Le Monde: "When Viktor Orban became prime minister of Hungary in May 2010, following the victory of his party, Fidesz, in the April legislative elections, the country was on the verge of suffocation. Prices were soaring; the currency (the forint) was collapsing; the economy had plunged by 6.8% the previous year, triggering a surge in unemployment; and the International Monetary Fund (IMF) was called in to help". On top of that they'd had riots prior to that throughout 2006 due to their corrupt socialist PM confessing to lying in order to win the election - Protests which featured occupation of government buildings and bringing Hungary to the brink of a coup. Big Vik is great, deal with it. Not surprised you didn't link the Article which went on to say Yet in 2004, when it joined the European Union, economists praised the strength of the "Hungarian miracle." After the fall of the Soviet bloc, Budapest privatized major state corporations and its pension system, opened its banks up to outside capital and implemented a series of measures to attract direct foreign investment, which went on to account for 51.8% of gross domestic product (GDP) in 2007, a world record.
This opening up of the market gave a tremendous boost to growth in the early 2000s, but it backfired with the financial crash of 2008
From 1990 when the previously Centrally Planned Economy was opened up to 2008 the Hungarian Economy prospered under the Socialist Government If you can't read the link with Official Figures I can't help you Young and highly educated people are leaving Hungary – as a result of Orbán's Policies fuf.se/en/korrar/unga-och-hogutbildade-lamnar-ungern-till-foljd-av-orbans-politik/Right so you're saying Hungary wasn't in disarray when Vik took over? Attempted coup, cultural and financial chaos aside? 😂 I wouldn't focus your points solely on economy either. You casually disregard some of the most pressing points for ordinary individuals by doing that. Immigration, cultural identity, family values, education, views towards the EU and health are all as important at the ballot box. Most Hungarians were politically homeless and feeling culturally lost by years of neglect in 2010. Orban brought a lot of that back and has subsequently won election after election for over a decade, democratically. You talk about the young met elite of Budapest wanting out. What about the other 90+% of the population? Thats like saying "because a few rich, privileged, posh white kids in Islington and Hackney want something, they should get it and they are reflective of the rest of the nation". Fuck that.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 23, 2024 19:14:27 GMT
I can’t tell you how disappointed I am with your post Cranny, you’re usually so measured and impartial. What happened to you? Not only have you let me down but you’ve let down the entire oatcake community and more than anything yourself. Go and sit on the bottom step and think about what you’ve said Bottom step? It was middle step in my day with one foot in the air. Just another example of Britain going soft.
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Jul 23, 2024 19:15:22 GMT
I can’t tell you how disappointed I am with your post Cranny, you’re usually so measured and impartial. What happened to you? Not only have you let me down but you’ve let down the entire oatcake community and more than anything yourself. Go and sit on the bottom step and think about what you’ve said Bottom step? It was middle step in my day with one foot in the air. Just another example of Britain going soft. I like to keep my finger on the pulse as far as modern British society is concerned😉
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Post by wannabee on Jul 23, 2024 19:42:11 GMT
Not surprised you didn't link the Article which went on to say Yet in 2004, when it joined the European Union, economists praised the strength of the "Hungarian miracle." After the fall of the Soviet bloc, Budapest privatized major state corporations and its pension system, opened its banks up to outside capital and implemented a series of measures to attract direct foreign investment, which went on to account for 51.8% of gross domestic product (GDP) in 2007, a world record.
This opening up of the market gave a tremendous boost to growth in the early 2000s, but it backfired with the financial crash of 2008
From 1990 when the previously Centrally Planned Economy was opened up to 2008 the Hungarian Economy prospered under the Socialist Government If you can't read the link with Official Figures I can't help you Young and highly educated people are leaving Hungary – as a result of Orbán's Policies fuf.se/en/korrar/unga-och-hogutbildade-lamnar-ungern-till-foljd-av-orbans-politik/Right so you're saying Hungary wasn't in disarray when Vik took over? Attempted coup, cultural and financial chaos aside? 😂 I wouldn't focus your points solely on economy either. You casually disregard some of the most pressing points for ordinary individuals by doing that. Immigration, cultural identity, family values, education, views towards the EU and health are all as important at the ballot box. Most Hungarians were politically homeless and feeling culturally lost by years of neglect in 2010. Orban brought a lot of that back and has subsequently won election after election for over a decade, democratically. You talk about the young met elite of Budapest wanting out. What about the other 90+% of the population? Thats like saying "because a few rich, privileged, posh white kids in Islington and Hackney want something, they should get it and they are reflective of the rest of the nation". Fuck that. You may be in favour of Authoritarian Rulers fair enough, I don't and young educated Hungarians are leaving in their drives. A recent poll showed 43% of Hungarians aged 16-24 intent to leave within the next 10 years It it's hardly a few 700,000 is 7% of the population Many of the things you find attractive are exactly why you g people are leaving as well as youth unemployment at 11% and low wages and opportunities. Orban has put in place various media campaigns and incentives to reverse the Brain drain with little effect Hungary like most Countries suffered from the 2008 Financial Crash but was coming off a sustained almost 2 decades of growth www.rferl.org/a/hungary-brain-drain-politics-jobs/32753641.htmlI doubt you will agree but this is as good a summary as any how since Orban was elected in 2010 how he has systematically undermined the Judicial System, Controlled the Media including shutting down or gaoling any dissenters, changed the Voting System to ensure winning Elections on Minority votes and importing voters from neighbouring Countries. That doesn't include suppression of minorities including LGBTQ. As I say I can see why you might find it appealing crd.org/vorban/
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Post by scfcbiancorossi on Jul 23, 2024 20:17:55 GMT
Right so you're saying Hungary wasn't in disarray when Vik took over? Attempted coup, cultural and financial chaos aside? 😂 I wouldn't focus your points solely on economy either. You casually disregard some of the most pressing points for ordinary individuals by doing that. Immigration, cultural identity, family values, education, views towards the EU and health are all as important at the ballot box. Most Hungarians were politically homeless and feeling culturally lost by years of neglect in 2010. Orban brought a lot of that back and has subsequently won election after election for over a decade, democratically. You talk about the young met elite of Budapest wanting out. What about the other 90+% of the population? Thats like saying "because a few rich, privileged, posh white kids in Islington and Hackney want something, they should get it and they are reflective of the rest of the nation". Fuck that. You may be in favour of Authoritarian Rulers fair enough, I don't and young educated Hungarians are leaving in their drives. A recent poll showed 43% of Hungarians aged 16-24 intent to leave within the next 10 years It it's hardly a few 700,000 is 7% of the population Many of the things you find attractive are exactly why you g people are leaving as well as youth unemployment at 11% and low wages and opportunities. Orban has put in place various media campaigns and incentives to reverse the Brain drain with little effect Hungary like most Countries suffered from the 2008 Financial Crash but was coming off a sustained almost 2 decades of growth www.rferl.org/a/hungary-brain-drain-politics-jobs/32753641.htmlI doubt you will agree but this is as good a summary as any how since Orban was elected in 2010 how he has systematically undermined the Judicial System, Controlled the Media including shutting down or gaoling any dissenters, changed the Voting System to ensure winning Elections on Minority votes and importing voters from neighbouring Countries. That doesn't include suppression of minorities including LGBTQ. As I say I can see why you might find it appealing crd.org/vorban/That's a fairly desperate stat really isn't it Wannabe? My only surprise is that it's not higher than 43% of 16-24 year olds. I'm pretty sure if you asked kids of that age from any country on the planet whether they'd rather live abroad, they'd say yes. Your figure is staggeringly low and a huge compliment to the work of Orban. You'd have to be a pretty boring 16 to 24 year old to not want to live abroad/travel if the opportunity was there, regardless of where you live. What about the other 93% of Hungarians? He absolutely annihilated his opposition in 2022 which is some going after 12 years in power. Or was that corrupt? Just accept, whether you like him or not, the majority of Hungarians evidently do.
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Post by wannabee on Jul 23, 2024 21:04:26 GMT
You may be in favour of Authoritarian Rulers fair enough, I don't and young educated Hungarians are leaving in their drives. A recent poll showed 43% of Hungarians aged 16-24 intent to leave within the next 10 years It it's hardly a few 700,000 is 7% of the population Many of the things you find attractive are exactly why you g people are leaving as well as youth unemployment at 11% and low wages and opportunities. Orban has put in place various media campaigns and incentives to reverse the Brain drain with little effect Hungary like most Countries suffered from the 2008 Financial Crash but was coming off a sustained almost 2 decades of growth www.rferl.org/a/hungary-brain-drain-politics-jobs/32753641.htmlI doubt you will agree but this is as good a summary as any how since Orban was elected in 2010 how he has systematically undermined the Judicial System, Controlled the Media including shutting down or gaoling any dissenters, changed the Voting System to ensure winning Elections on Minority votes and importing voters from neighbouring Countries. That doesn't include suppression of minorities including LGBTQ. As I say I can see why you might find it appealing crd.org/vorban/That's a fairly desperate stat really isn't it Wannabe? My only surprise is that it's not higher than 43% of 16-24 year olds. I'm pretty sure if you asked kids of that age from any country on the planet whether they'd rather live abroad, they'd say yes. Your figure is staggeringly low and a huge compliment to the work of Orban. You'd have to be a pretty boring 16 to 24 year old to not want to live abroad/travel if the opportunity was there, regardless of where you live. What about the other 93% of Hungarians? He absolutely annihilated his opposition in 2022 which is some going after 12 years in power. Or was that corrupt? Just accept, whether you like him or not, the majority of Hungarians evidently do. You have a strange concept of what constitutes a significant proportion of the population especially in aging populations like Hungary and UK There are 7+M 16-24 year olds in UK. If 43% decided they wanted to emigrate permanently that would be over 3M We would need a hell of a lot of migrants to replace them And as for corrupt Elections 😂 telex.hu/english/2022/03/31/thrown-out-hungarian-mail-in-ballots-found-near-targu-mures-romaniaAnyway I'm done with it.
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Jul 23, 2024 21:35:57 GMT
That's a fairly desperate stat really isn't it Wannabe? My only surprise is that it's not higher than 43% of 16-24 year olds. I'm pretty sure if you asked kids of that age from any country on the planet whether they'd rather live abroad, they'd say yes. Your figure is staggeringly low and a huge compliment to the work of Orban. You'd have to be a pretty boring 16 to 24 year old to not want to live abroad/travel if the opportunity was there, regardless of where you live. What about the other 93% of Hungarians? He absolutely annihilated his opposition in 2022 which is some going after 12 years in power. Or was that corrupt? Just accept, whether you like him or not, the majority of Hungarians evidently do. You have a strange concept of what constitutes a significant proportion of the population especially in aging populations like Hungary and UK There are 7+M 16-24 year olds in UK. If 43% decided they wanted to emigrate permanently that would be over 3M We would need a hell of a lot of migrants to replace them And as for corrupt Elections 😂 telex.hu/english/2022/03/31/thrown-out-hungarian-mail-in-ballots-found-near-targu-mures-romaniaAnyway I'm done with it. Thank god for that, you could send a glass eye to sleep😉
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Post by scfcbiancorossi on Jul 23, 2024 21:48:38 GMT
That's a fairly desperate stat really isn't it Wannabe? My only surprise is that it's not higher than 43% of 16-24 year olds. I'm pretty sure if you asked kids of that age from any country on the planet whether they'd rather live abroad, they'd say yes. Your figure is staggeringly low and a huge compliment to the work of Orban. You'd have to be a pretty boring 16 to 24 year old to not want to live abroad/travel if the opportunity was there, regardless of where you live. What about the other 93% of Hungarians? He absolutely annihilated his opposition in 2022 which is some going after 12 years in power. Or was that corrupt? Just accept, whether you like him or not, the majority of Hungarians evidently do. You have a strange concept of what constitutes a significant proportion of the population especially in aging populations like Hungary and UK There are 7+M 16-24 year olds in UK. If 43% decided they wanted to emigrate permanently that would be over 3M We would need a hell of a lot of migrants to replace them And as for corrupt Elections 😂 telex.hu/english/2022/03/31/thrown-out-hungarian-mail-in-ballots-found-near-targu-mures-romaniaAnyway I'm done with it. I knew this was coming.😂 So the minute anyone like Biden is accused of corrupt mail in ballots election results, the accuser is a far right conspiracy theorist and the accused, totally innocent. Yet you'll happily claim one of Hungary's most successful PM's ever (right wing leader) is only there because of corrupt mail in ballot election results. The irony was he took over from a socialist who openly admitted he was corrupt! Comical stuff. Anyone would think you're just a touch biased on this one 😉
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Post by wannabee on Jul 24, 2024 1:49:48 GMT
Thank god for that, you could send a glass eye to sleep😉 🤭 ![](//storage.proboards.com/800541/thumbnailer/TbmZVuBtGPXfIdbXmLVQ.png)
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Post by phileetin on Jul 24, 2024 8:53:39 GMT
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Post by str8outtahampton on Jul 24, 2024 9:08:23 GMT
If that's a joke then I admire the irony. Genuinely. If it's not, I wonder if you know (m)any Hungarians, or even speak to them? I mean have a bunch of Hungarian friends but have spent time in Debrecan and Budapest sporadically over the years and on balance, most that I've spoken too like him. As with any leader, opinion is divided and the younger liberal generation in Budapest (similar to the UK) are inevitably less supportive than those in smaller cities, towns and rural areas. I am not really sure it's worth debating. That's not a comment on you personally. More the nature of this (and other) forum(s). I would say the number of people whose view has been changed is low. Extremely low. In fact what usually happens is that people on any side of a particular discussion tend to dig in. But let me have a go. My dad was born in Hungary. He was a "migrant" indeed an asylum seeker. Whether if he had moved in next door to Mr Farage the latter would have objected is impossible to say, but not out of the question. Because whilst he experienced warmth, hospitality and (altruistic) generosity from many, he also encountered hostility, prejudice and suspicion - because he looked (and in particular sounded) different. He never forgot that generosity. In fact he felt duty bound to repay it. He spent his entire working life in the NHS. (Not that it's relevant (because some of us might say it amounts to abusive behaviour) but he also gave my brother and me a lifelong love of SCFC)). He never saw his parents (my grandparents) again, but life in Hungary was (let's put it charitably) extremely difficult. My cousins (his nephew and niece) are still there. My dad was the gentlest of men. I never saw him angry or confrontational. As a result, if he were on this board (not in a million years btw) he wouldn't harangue you, and he certainly would not be insulting or offensive. But what he might say is that what Orban is doing has all the hallmarks (embryonic perhaps) of the fascists in Hungary in the 30s. Undermining the independence of the judiciary, curtailing critical media, parachuting puppet supporters into positions of influence in education and elsewhere, political gerrymandering, pork-barrel posturing. And in particular the demonisation of "migrants". He might also ask you to visit the Jewish cemetery next time you're in Budapest. It's the size of a small town, so the graves are not easy to find, but that's where my grandparents are buried.
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Post by scfcbiancorossi on Jul 24, 2024 10:07:39 GMT
I mean have a bunch of Hungarian friends but have spent time in Debrecan and Budapest sporadically over the years and on balance, most that I've spoken too like him. As with any leader, opinion is divided and the younger liberal generation in Budapest (similar to the UK) are inevitably less supportive than those in smaller cities, towns and rural areas. I am not really sure it's worth debating. That's not a comment on you personally. More the nature of this (and other) forum(s). I would say the number of people whose view has been changed is low. Extremely low. In fact what usually happens is that people on any side of a particular discussion tend to dig in. But let me have a go. My dad was born in Hungary. He was a "migrant" indeed an asylum seeker. Whether if he had moved in next door to Mr Farage the latter would have objected is impossible to say, but not out of the question. Because whilst he experienced warmth, hospitality and (altruistic) generosity from many, he also encountered hostility, prejudice and suspicion - because he looked (and in particular sounded) different. He never forgot that generosity. In fact he felt duty bound to repay it. He spent his entire working life in the NHS. (Not that it's relevant (because some of us might say it amounts to abusive behaviour) but he also gave my brother and me a lifelong love of SCFC)). He never saw his parents (my grandparents) again, but life in Hungary was (let's put it charitably) extremely difficult. My cousins (his nephew and niece) are still there. My dad was the gentlest of men. I never saw him angry or confrontational. As a result, if he were on this board (not in a million years btw) he wouldn't harangue you, and he certainly would not be insulting or offensive. But what he might say is that what Orban is doing has all the hallmarks (embryonic perhaps) of the fascists in Hungary in the 30s. Undermining the independence of the judiciary, curtailing critical media, parachuting puppet supporters into positions of influence in education and elsewhere, political gerrymandering, pork-barrel posturing. And in particular the demonisation of "migrants". He might also ask you to visit the Jewish cemetery next time you're in Budapest. It's the size of a small town, so the graves are not easy to find, but that's where my grandparents are buried. And that is his or your right to hold that view. One might also argue that such a claim is misplaced and that comparisons between Orban and Nazi Germany are somewhat absurd and not based on what is actually happening in Hungary, but rather a portrayal of what our media want you to believe. I did Dachau two weeks ago so may wait a while before visiting another haunting reminder of the Holocaust but I'll be visiting Budapest again in September so will take a look if I get the opportunity.
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Post by scfcbiancorossi on Jul 31, 2024 8:02:17 GMT
Absolutely. The damage is done regardless of who takes over our country. Mass immigration has totally destroyed the social fabric of this nation and it's irreversible. Over the coming decades we will see rioting and violence like we've never seen before. 😂 Has it? There was me thinking 99% of the time people go to work, live in houses, get married, go shopping, watch football, travel, socialise, etc etc, but apparently the social fabric of the nation has been totally destroyed and we all live hand to mouth as savages 😂 This isn't ageing too well is it? Life might be very safe and sheltered in your privileged bubble but in the space of a few days since your post after the Leeds rioting, we've seen police officers physically attacked at an airport, children stabbed to death at a dance class, machete fights at a theme park in Southend and more rioting - This time in Southport along with huge protesting in London over the weekend. You can pretend everything is just fine but it's only going to get worse and the anger, hate and hostility in this once great nation will continue to grow.
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Post by foghornsgleghorn on Jul 31, 2024 16:45:51 GMT
😂 Has it? There was me thinking 99% of the time people go to work, live in houses, get married, go shopping, watch football, travel, socialise, etc etc, but apparently the social fabric of the nation has been totally destroyed and we all live hand to mouth as savages 😂 This isn't ageing too well is it? Life might be very safe and sheltered in your privileged bubble but in the space of a few days since your post after the Leeds rioting, we've seen police officers physically attacked at an airport, children stabbed to death at a dance class, machete fights at a theme park in Southend and more rioting - This time in Southport along with huge protesting in London over the weekend. You can pretend everything is just fine but it's only going to get worse and the anger, hate and hostility in this once great nation will continue to grow. Well with this thundercunt and his Reform mob gobbing off, then yes, it could get quite messy . www.theguardian.com/uk-news/article/2024/jul/31/farage-accused-of-inciting-southport-violence-by-former-counter-terror-chief“Nigel Farage is giving the EDL [English Defence League] succour, undermining the police, creating conspiracy theories, and giving a false basis for the attacks on the police,”
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Jul 31, 2024 16:48:58 GMT
This isn't ageing too well is it? Life might be very safe and sheltered in your privileged bubble but in the space of a few days since your post after the Leeds rioting, we've seen police officers physically attacked at an airport, children stabbed to death at a dance class, machete fights at a theme park in Southend and more rioting - This time in Southport along with huge protesting in London over the weekend. You can pretend everything is just fine but it's only going to get worse and the anger, hate and hostility in this once great nation will continue to grow. Well with this thundercunt and his Reform mob gobbing off, then yes, it could get quite messy . www.theguardian.com/uk-news/article/2024/jul/31/farage-accused-of-inciting-southport-violence-by-former-counter-terror-chief“Nigel Farage is giving the EDL [English Defence League] succour, undermining the police, creating conspiracy theories, and giving a false basis for the attacks on the police,”
Another one allergic to opinions
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Post by middleoftheboothen on Jul 31, 2024 17:15:34 GMT
This isn't ageing too well is it? Life might be very safe and sheltered in your privileged bubble but in the space of a few days since your post after the Leeds rioting, we've seen police officers physically attacked at an airport, children stabbed to death at a dance class, machete fights at a theme park in Southend and more rioting - This time in Southport along with huge protesting in London over the weekend. You can pretend everything is just fine but it's only going to get worse and the anger, hate and hostility in this once great nation will continue to grow. Well with this thundercunt and his Reform mob gobbing off, then yes, it could get quite messy . www.theguardian.com/uk-news/article/2024/jul/31/farage-accused-of-inciting-southport-violence-by-former-counter-terror-chief“Nigel Farage is giving the EDL [English Defence League] succour, undermining the police, creating conspiracy theories, and giving a false basis for the attacks on the police,”
You do realise that the EDL has disbanded as an organisation don't you?
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Post by foghornsgleghorn on Jul 31, 2024 17:19:18 GMT
Another one allergic to opinions Another apologist.
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Post by prestwichpotter on Jul 31, 2024 17:22:55 GMT
You do realise that the EDL has disbanded as an organisation don't you? All the same faces are still around under various guises though that’s clear to see. Well the ones that haven’t been put away for being massive nonces at least…..
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Jul 31, 2024 17:24:24 GMT
You do realise that the EDL has disbanded as an organisation don't you? That’s what so ridiculous when the Police/media and posters on here come out with such shit mate
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Jul 31, 2024 17:26:26 GMT
Another one allergic to opinions Another apologist. Another ostrich
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Post by mickeythemaestro on Jul 31, 2024 17:34:12 GMT
The Apologists and Ostriches...seen them play somewhere before I think, just can't place it 😉
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Post by Paul Spencer on Jul 31, 2024 17:40:07 GMT
This isn't ageing too well is it? Life might be very safe and sheltered in your privileged bubble but in the space of a few days since your post after the Leeds rioting, we've seen police officers physically attacked at an airport, children stabbed to death at a dance class, machete fights at a theme park in Southend and more rioting - This time in Southport along with huge protesting in London over the weekend. You can pretend everything is just fine but it's only going to get worse and the anger, hate and hostility in this once great nation will continue to grow. Well with this thundercunt and his Reform mob gobbing off, then yes, it could get quite messy . www.theguardian.com/uk-news/article/2024/jul/31/farage-accused-of-inciting-southport-violence-by-former-counter-terror-chief“Nigel Farage is giving the EDL [English Defence League] succour, undermining the police, creating conspiracy theories, and giving a false basis for the attacks on the police,”
Farage's tweet just prior to it all kicking off last night, was utterly disgusting. Shame on those people who posted it and gave it a like. Hijacking the death of three young children, to promote his agenda of hate, was as low as a person possibly could go and then (incredibly) there are people on here applauding such appalling rhetoric. The former counter terror chief (amongst) others is absolutely correct. Farage is a nasty racist in a suit. How on earth people cannot see through the agenda he peddles is absolutely beyond me. It's truly frightening.
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Post by middleoftheboothen on Jul 31, 2024 17:41:18 GMT
You do realise that the EDL has disbanded as an organisation don't you? All the same faces are still around under various guises though that’s clear to see. Well the ones that haven’t been put away for being massive nonces at least….. I've never been a part of it mate and wouldn't know any of them so I couldn't comment on who they are. All I know is it is no longer an organisation if that is the correct term for what it was.
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Post by emretezzy on Jul 31, 2024 17:54:01 GMT
You do realise that the EDL has disbanded as an organisation don't you? All the same faces are still around under various guises though that’s clear to see. Well the ones that haven’t been put away for being massive nonces at least….. Are you on about the grooming gangs or the EDL?
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Post by iancransonsknees on Jul 31, 2024 17:54:16 GMT
You do realise that the EDL has disbanded as an organisation don't you? All the same faces are still around under various guises though that’s clear to see. Well the ones that haven’t been put away for being massive nonces at least….. I didn't realise Huw Edwards was EDL 🤷
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Jul 31, 2024 17:57:10 GMT
All the same faces are still around under various guises though that’s clear to see. Well the ones that haven’t been put away for being massive nonces at least….. I didn't realise Huw Edwards was EDL 🤷 I don’t think these idiots realise how much they’re contributing to the culture wars going on in this country
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Post by knype on Jul 31, 2024 17:58:28 GMT
You do realise that the EDL has disbanded as an organisation don't you? All the same faces are still around under various guises though that’s clear to see. Well the ones that haven’t been put away for being massive nonces at least….. More absolute horseshit
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