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Post by stokiejoe89 on Jul 11, 2024 11:03:29 GMT
What do we think of this? I think it's pretty much spot on.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 11, 2024 11:08:17 GMT
What do we think of this? I think it's pretty much spot on. I couldn’t agree more. Football has become very stale to me. Some like it a lot. I find it boring.
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Post by march4 on Jul 11, 2024 11:15:51 GMT
He’s spot on.
Football will soon realise Pulisball is much more exciting and effective.
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Jul 11, 2024 11:22:02 GMT
It’s way better than it was at elite level at least
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Post by stokiejoe89 on Jul 11, 2024 11:30:25 GMT
He’s spot on. Football will soon realise Pulisball is much more exciting and effective. 😂😂 get it up to Mama!
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Post by olias on Jul 11, 2024 11:37:42 GMT
Attacking-football, as opposed to, probing-football, is what I miss most. England had a few spells last night of attacking-football, and it was so much better. It was edge of the seat stuff on occasion, and I loved it. And I want to see more of it.
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Post by wakeypotter on Jul 11, 2024 11:48:21 GMT
Arsene wenger and guardiola have a lot to answer to for how football is today. Mind numbing boring football and half the championship think they can play that way. Give me pulis ball home games any day
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Post by Deleted on Jul 11, 2024 11:50:27 GMT
Arsene wenger and guardiola have a lot to answer to for how football is today. Mind numbing boring football and half the championship think they can play that way. Give me pulis ball home games any day Or just simply Hughes-ball. Try and get it up the pitch and play aggressively from there. The transition of playmaker from central midfield to defence frustrates me the most.
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Post by bridgnorthstokie on Jul 11, 2024 12:00:32 GMT
Totally agree with that article, I've said a number of times on here guardiolas football is boring, yes they win trophies but its chess and not entertaing at all, he has coached the flair, attacking instinct out of Jack grealish.
You attend a game at the ethihad and all you'll hear is man city fans talking between themselves until the final pass into the box...why, because they are bored of the chess like tactics used.
Bring back attacking wingers
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Post by mickeythemaestro on Jul 11, 2024 12:08:40 GMT
What first made me think along these lines is how Guardiola has turned Grealish into a shitter footballer to watch. Used to love watching him play for Villa like that 12 year old in a grass roots team who is 10 levels above everyone else on the pitch just buzzing because they are having fun and expressing themselves. Bet he regrets going there despite the titles and fat pay rise..
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Post by samwidge on Jul 11, 2024 12:31:49 GMT
He's bang on the money.
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Post by Gods on Jul 11, 2024 13:09:13 GMT
The most stupid sight of all is defenders folding their arms behind their back before a cross comes in just in case the ball accidentally hits an arm. How have we got reduced to this?
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Post by Mr_DaftBurger on Jul 11, 2024 13:27:28 GMT
Spain, second half, we're more interested in keeping the ball than scoring another, boring as fuck.
And the language, progressive, transition, through the lines, up top, etc, etc.
Poor Jack, can't remember the last time he didn't turn and pass it back, this is obviously coached down to our level, ball retention is the word, stats, yawn. Didn't Stuey say he'd rather trust his eyes? 👍
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Post by cheekymatt71 on Jul 11, 2024 13:33:23 GMT
Isnt he talking a bit of rubbish though based upon real facts?
Of course football is subjective for an observer, but by many objective facts football is supposedly the most attacking its ever been.
Record number of goals scored in Premier League I think was last season.
Ditto for international football (Just not this Euros which was been defensive and shit).
If you dont like Guardiola football then dont watch it - there are plenty of other approaches still being used in England and around the world.
Also think its a case of rose-tinted spectacles when looking into the past. 80s football was fucking horrible to watch - every team lumping it as far and as high as possible for a game of kick and chase. But yeah we remember the great Liverpools, Holland of the time
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Post by cheekymatt71 on Jul 11, 2024 13:35:19 GMT
Agree with everyone on the Jack Grealish thing. Guardiola has reduced him to a football robot at Man City, and that is a loss to football.
But look at Yamal and Williams for Spain. Its not like tricky wingers are not getting a game - THEY ARE
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Post by rowleyscfc on Jul 11, 2024 13:59:06 GMT
Football is all about tempo in my eyes, it's not what you do it's the speed of it, football has lost it's tempo for majority of the games we see now
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Post by tommycarlsberg on Jul 11, 2024 14:02:12 GMT
Agree with everyone on the Jack Grealish thing. Guardiola has reduced him to a football robot at Man City, and that is a loss to football. But look at Yamal and Williams for Spain. Its not like tricky wingers are not getting a game - THEY ARE I thought Yamal played a lot like Guardiola's version of a winger to be honest. Not sure he took his man on once.
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Post by tommycarlsberg on Jul 11, 2024 14:04:05 GMT
Isnt he talking a bit of rubbish though based upon real facts? Of course football is subjective for an observer, but by many objective facts football is supposedly the most attacking its ever been. Record number of goals scored in Premier League I think was last season. Ditto for international football (Just not this Euros which was been defensive and shit). If you dont like Guardiola football then dont watch it - there are plenty of other approaches still being used in England and around the world. Also think its a case of rose-tinted spectacles when looking into the past. 80s football was fucking horrible to watch - every team lumping it as far and as high as possible for a game of kick and chase. But yeah we remember the great Liverpools, Holland of the time Agree with you here though, you can watch as little or as much football as you want. Same applies to all the fan channel stuff
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Post by Deleted on Jul 11, 2024 14:06:14 GMT
Interesting to hear Bastian Schweinsteiger talk with Gary Neville on the negative impact Guardiola had on German football when he was with Bayern. He said it lost it's soul and struggled to get it back, as every manager including national team managers tried to copy his philosophy.
Philip Lahm as a midfielder (similar to TAA) was used as an example.
Was a really interesting watch and perspective.
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Post by richardparker on Jul 11, 2024 15:20:18 GMT
You need very high fitness levels to make possession football work. Watching England (and Stoke) trying to play this style is laughable, as when a player in possession looks to pass, the only player in space involves a backward pass (or pass across field to someone with no threat and very limited options to release). I genuinely thought Walking Football was for the Over 60s, but apparently it's open to all ages! With Barcelona at their peak, there always seemed to be two or more passes forward to a player in space, which kept the ball moving forward. If there's no one trying to lose their marker it just goes backwards. The biggest joke last year was Burnley. That was like trying to teach flying an aeroplane to a five year old! Ridiculous.
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Post by wuzza on Jul 11, 2024 15:26:16 GMT
Just hope I’m watching the day someone in the broadcast media has the courage to say watching Man City is utterly tedious !
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Post by wagsastokie on Jul 11, 2024 15:50:21 GMT
Football is all about tempo in my eyes, it's not what you do it's the speed of it, football has lost it's tempo for majority of the games we see now The tempo isn’t helped by the stoppages for var and now up to ten substitutions a game
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Post by skip on Jul 11, 2024 16:50:51 GMT
Football is all about tempo in my eyes, it's not what you do it's the speed of it, football has lost it's tempo for majority of the games we see now It ain't how you play But the speed the you play it It ain't how you play But the speed the you play it It ain't how you play But the speed the you play it And that's what get's results..." Get it going down the ground in August! RIP Terry Hall (and Bananarame 4 EVA).
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Post by madnellie on Jul 11, 2024 17:16:55 GMT
I couldn’t agree more. I’m so tired of Guardiola’s brand of football and the love in that seems to surround him, and a Man City team that, despite spending billions, make me want to gouge my eyes out with a blunt spoon 90 per cent of the times I watch them.
Klopp will always be a better manager for me, with teams that are actually fun to watch. I want some excitement and a little bit of blood and thunder in my footie. Call me old fashioned!
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Post by madnellie on Jul 11, 2024 17:23:56 GMT
Interesting to hear Bastian Schweinsteiger talk with Gary Neville on the negative impact Guardiola had on German football when he was with Bayern. He said it lost it's soul and struggled to get it back, as every manager including national team managers tried to copy his philosophy. Philip Lahm as a midfielder (similar to TAA) was used as an example. Was a really interesting watch and perspective. As a casual Bayern fan I couldn’t agree more. He failed at Bayern and left them (and the Bundesliga) way worse than he found them. Yes he won the league with record points, but there are plenty of other managers who could have achieved that with the players he had at his disposal. Not winning the Champions League with them was an absolute travesty.
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Post by hotterpotter on Jul 11, 2024 17:43:01 GMT
I thought this was a thread about Trump's latest very sensible idea.
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Post by Mr_DaftBurger on Jul 11, 2024 19:01:48 GMT
Football is all about tempo in my eyes, it's not what you do it's the speed of it, football has lost it's tempo for majority of the games we see now It ain't how you play But the speed the you play it It ain't how you play But the speed the you play it It ain't how you play But the speed the you play it And that's what get's results..." Get it going down the ground in August! RIP Terry Hall (and Bananarame 4 EVA). They're coached too much much too young and should be having fun with football that's freeeee! D'you want Guardiola, no thanks mate, Pulis with his long ball, no thanks mate.... We want something more than football in its present state! 😜
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Post by JoeinOz on Jul 12, 2024 7:45:39 GMT
When did Bielsa say this? Can we be sure he isn't being a mardarse because Uruguay got knocked out?
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Post by spitthedog on Jul 12, 2024 12:57:09 GMT
When did Bielsa say this? Can we be sure he isn't being a mardarse because Uruguay got knocked out? It was before they got knocked out. I do listen to Bielsa because he did something to me that I thought would never, ever happen. When working in Leeds I managed to get hold of a ticket for a game when he was there, and it was just so thrilling to watch tbh. I felt so dirty enjoying watching Leeds, and felt inner turmoil for days after that.
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Post by PotterLog on Jul 12, 2024 13:06:34 GMT
When did Bielsa say this? Can we be sure he isn't being a mardarse because Uruguay got knocked out? Was a few days before that Joe, when they played Brazil I think
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