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Post by stokeson on May 28, 2024 15:01:27 GMT
Innocent......
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Post by LL Cool Dave on May 28, 2024 15:04:17 GMT
Good news..but hardly worthy of it's own thread tbh.
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Post by stokeson on May 28, 2024 15:07:22 GMT
Good news..but hardly worthy of it's own thread tbh. If it was "guilty" There would be dancing in the streets from some on here....
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Post by Chewbacca the Wookie on May 28, 2024 15:08:59 GMT
Or not enough evidence to convict?
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Post by thehartshillbadger on May 28, 2024 15:11:55 GMT
Good news..but hardly worthy of it's own thread tbh. If it was "guilty" There would be dancing in the streets from some on here.... No one cares mate
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Post by phileetin on May 28, 2024 15:28:30 GMT
1984-2024 orwell was right
at least hmrc have been put on the case , might still get a resignation
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Post by knype on May 28, 2024 15:41:06 GMT
Or not enough evidence to convict? Or let off for political reasons
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Post by CBUFAWKIPWH on May 28, 2024 15:45:25 GMT
Strictly speaking the police have decided there is no criminal case to answer but the info has been passed on to Stockport Council and HMRC who may decide to take action. Raynor may get asked to pay up any dues but if she does there would not even be a civil case against her. Whether she decides to resign under those circumstances is up to her but she could claim she sort advice, followed it, was misinformed and has subsequently rectified the mistake.
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Post by CBUFAWKIPWH on May 28, 2024 15:47:11 GMT
Or not enough evidence to convict? Or let off for political reasons And the police are renowned for their left leaning credentials? That won't go down well at the Masonic Lodge.
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Post by wagsastokie on May 28, 2024 16:02:38 GMT
Starmer’s going to be well pissed He’ll have to sack her now
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Post by foghornsgleghorn on May 28, 2024 16:03:50 GMT
1984-2024 orwell was right
at least hmrc have been put on the case , might still get a resignation www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/uk-politics-69063295"A Labour source tells BBC News that HMRC have said Angela Rayner does not owe any Capital Gains Tax and will not take any further action on the matter."and "Now we’ve had a statement from Stockport Council, who also say no further action will be taken."
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Post by CBUFAWKIPWH on May 28, 2024 16:10:37 GMT
1984-2024 orwell was right
at least hmrc have been put on the case , might still get a resignation www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/uk-politics-69063295"A Labour source tells BBC News that HMRC have said Angela Rayner does not owe any Capital Gains Tax and will not take any further action on the matter."and "Now we’ve had a statement from Stockport Council, who also say no further action will be taken."
Working class women hounded by Tory millionaire gets exonerated. Where did it all go wrong?
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Post by thehartshillbadger on May 28, 2024 16:14:29 GMT
www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/uk-politics-69063295"A Labour source tells BBC News that HMRC have said Angela Rayner does not owe any Capital Gains Tax and will not take any further action on the matter."and "Now we’ve had a statement from Stockport Council, who also say no further action will be taken."
Working class women hounded by Tory millionaire gets exonerated. Where did it all go wrong? Middle class
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Post by Foster on May 28, 2024 16:14:41 GMT
Fit
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Post by flea79 on May 28, 2024 16:24:04 GMT
i would leave her with a face like a plasterers radio!
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Post by thehartshillbadger on May 28, 2024 16:25:22 GMT
i would leave her with a face like a plasterers radio! It’s funny, she looks really gormless, has a funny voice and is ginger. Yet so alluring. Strange phenomenon
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Post by flea79 on May 28, 2024 16:26:33 GMT
i would leave her with a face like a plasterers radio! It’s funny, she looks really gormless, has a funny voice and is ginger. Yet so alluring. Strange phenomenon definitely leaves the heels on when she bends over! wonder if she reads the oatcake?
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Post by bayernoatcake on May 28, 2024 16:50:09 GMT
Shock horror.
Hopefully the Tory twat is charged for wasting police time.
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Post by Deleted on May 28, 2024 17:11:31 GMT
Working class women hounded by Tory millionaire gets exonerated. Where did it all go wrong? Middle class It’s not where she started though, is it? “ Rayner was born Angela Bowen on the Bridgehall estate, Stockport, in March 1980, the second of three children. Her mother Lynn was one of 12 kids born to out-of-work parents. Lynn had never been to school. “I followed the fair,” was how she described her upbringing to her daughter. Beyond the fact that her mum was from Wythenshawe (“like Marcus Rashford”) and her dad from Stockport, Rayner has “no idea” of her family’s background. “I don’t want to go on Who Do You Think You Are? I dread to think who I am! I just think: I know what I know.” It’s worth noting that former Tory chancellor Sajid Javid’s mother was also illiterate, but regularly marched young Sajid to the local library to study. Lynn, by contrast, was in spirals of suicidal despair. For long periods she was unable to get out of bed. Rayner became her carer: feeding her, washing her, once even sleeping at the end of her bed, “in case she did something”. Their house was a tip. The children were covered in dog fur, tidemarks of dirt visible on their skin. Food was sausage with chips; chips with chips. On Sundays they traipsed two miles to their nan’s high-rise for a hot bath and to have uniforms washed in her twin tub. “We used to play on the old disused railway lines aged five, and that was eight streets away from where I lived. I’d be nervous about my 14-year-old going eight streets away, let alone a five-year-old.” Their father was largely “out” – sometimes overnight, sometimes having “walked out” – his mood unpredictable on his return. Rayner remembers the slam of the front door and mimes a frightened gasp, zipping her mouth in fear. “As a child, little things are big. Your dad’s come home and he’s angry. How do you not breathe so they don’t see you hiding?” She doesn’t analyse her parents’ relationship: “That’s for them.” But watching her mother’s collapse each time her dad left made her feel “a byproduct of their relationship. We weren’t, like, wanted. I don’t really feel like I’ve ever been loved, or needed love, because I’ve never had it, in that way.” “ amp.theguardian.com/global/2024/mar/23/angela-rayner-roots-rough-edges-ready-for-powerShe’s come from a rough upbringing, left school at 16 when pregnant and had to rebuild her life thereafter. There really are not a lot of politicians who make it far that didn’t get much handed to them, but she is one of them.
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Post by thehartshillbadger on May 28, 2024 17:16:02 GMT
It’s not where she started though, is it? “ Rayner was born Angela Bowen on the Bridgehall estate, Stockport, in March 1980, the second of three children. Her mother Lynn was one of 12 kids born to out-of-work parents. Lynn had never been to school. “I followed the fair,” was how she described her upbringing to her daughter. Beyond the fact that her mum was from Wythenshawe (“like Marcus Rashford”) and her dad from Stockport, Rayner has “no idea” of her family’s background. “I don’t want to go on Who Do You Think You Are? I dread to think who I am! I just think: I know what I know.” It’s worth noting that former Tory chancellor Sajid Javid’s mother was also illiterate, but regularly marched young Sajid to the local library to study. Lynn, by contrast, was in spirals of suicidal despair. For long periods she was unable to get out of bed. Rayner became her carer: feeding her, washing her, once even sleeping at the end of her bed, “in case she did something”. Their house was a tip. The children were covered in dog fur, tidemarks of dirt visible on their skin. Food was sausage with chips; chips with chips. On Sundays they traipsed two miles to their nan’s high-rise for a hot bath and to have uniforms washed in her twin tub. “We used to play on the old disused railway lines aged five, and that was eight streets away from where I lived. I’d be nervous about my 14-year-old going eight streets away, let alone a five-year-old.” Their father was largely “out” – sometimes overnight, sometimes having “walked out” – his mood unpredictable on his return. Rayner remembers the slam of the front door and mimes a frightened gasp, zipping her mouth in fear. “As a child, little things are big. Your dad’s come home and he’s angry. How do you not breathe so they don’t see you hiding?” She doesn’t analyse her parents’ relationship: “That’s for them.” But watching her mother’s collapse each time her dad left made her feel “a byproduct of their relationship. We weren’t, like, wanted. I don’t really feel like I’ve ever been loved, or needed love, because I’ve never had it, in that way.” “ amp.theguardian.com/global/2024/mar/23/angela-rayner-roots-rough-edges-ready-for-powerShe’s come from a rough upbringing, left school at 16 when pregnant and had to rebuild her life thereafter. There really are not a lot of politicians who make it far that didn’t get much handed to them, but she is one of them. But currently middle class nonetheless. Or are you permanently one or the other?
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Post by Deleted on May 28, 2024 17:23:42 GMT
It’s not where she started though, is it? “ Rayner was born Angela Bowen on the Bridgehall estate, Stockport, in March 1980, the second of three children. Her mother Lynn was one of 12 kids born to out-of-work parents. Lynn had never been to school. “I followed the fair,” was how she described her upbringing to her daughter. Beyond the fact that her mum was from Wythenshawe (“like Marcus Rashford”) and her dad from Stockport, Rayner has “no idea” of her family’s background. “I don’t want to go on Who Do You Think You Are? I dread to think who I am! I just think: I know what I know.” It’s worth noting that former Tory chancellor Sajid Javid’s mother was also illiterate, but regularly marched young Sajid to the local library to study. Lynn, by contrast, was in spirals of suicidal despair. For long periods she was unable to get out of bed. Rayner became her carer: feeding her, washing her, once even sleeping at the end of her bed, “in case she did something”. Their house was a tip. The children were covered in dog fur, tidemarks of dirt visible on their skin. Food was sausage with chips; chips with chips. On Sundays they traipsed two miles to their nan’s high-rise for a hot bath and to have uniforms washed in her twin tub. “We used to play on the old disused railway lines aged five, and that was eight streets away from where I lived. I’d be nervous about my 14-year-old going eight streets away, let alone a five-year-old.” Their father was largely “out” – sometimes overnight, sometimes having “walked out” – his mood unpredictable on his return. Rayner remembers the slam of the front door and mimes a frightened gasp, zipping her mouth in fear. “As a child, little things are big. Your dad’s come home and he’s angry. How do you not breathe so they don’t see you hiding?” She doesn’t analyse her parents’ relationship: “That’s for them.” But watching her mother’s collapse each time her dad left made her feel “a byproduct of their relationship. We weren’t, like, wanted. I don’t really feel like I’ve ever been loved, or needed love, because I’ve never had it, in that way.” “ amp.theguardian.com/global/2024/mar/23/angela-rayner-roots-rough-edges-ready-for-powerShe’s come from a rough upbringing, left school at 16 when pregnant and had to rebuild her life thereafter. There really are not a lot of politicians who make it far that didn’t get much handed to them, but she is one of them. But currently middle class nonetheless. Or are you permanently one or the other? I think I had this argument with someone on here before. I believe it’s fluid. However, she is as close to being a working class person as a politician can really be (given that their salary puts them in the top 5% of the UK).
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Post by Mendicant on May 28, 2024 18:02:15 GMT
Lowry depicted life in Manchester in his paintings. Lord Ashcroft, a billionaire, wrote an unauthorised biography of a local politician speculating she could be liable for about £3.5 grand tax on the sale of a former council house. So Lowry looks a muppet with his paintings, nobody has a clue what the matchstick characters had squirreled away from HMRC, millions probably. One “l” in squireled?
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Post by bigjohnritchie on May 28, 2024 19:05:42 GMT
The elephant in the room here, that the left have to ignore, in this enlightened age.....where are the women?
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Post by wannabee on May 28, 2024 19:31:45 GMT
Or not enough evidence to convict? I thought you believed in the Rule of Law
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Post by wannabee on May 28, 2024 19:32:56 GMT
If it was "guilty" There would be dancing in the streets from some on here.... No one cares mate We know you don't, you don't do Politics
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Post by thehartshillbadger on May 28, 2024 19:34:15 GMT
We know you don't, you don't do Politics Who’s we?
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Post by Veritas on May 28, 2024 19:35:43 GMT
We know you don't, you don't do Politics Who’s we? Him and me
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Post by Paul Spencer on May 28, 2024 19:38:06 GMT
1984-2024 orwell was right
at least hmrc have been put on the case , might still get a resignation
Orwell was right about what?
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Post by Paul Spencer on May 28, 2024 19:38:51 GMT
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Post by thehartshillbadger on May 28, 2024 19:43:42 GMT
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