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Post by oggyoggy on May 23, 2024 6:31:27 GMT
How anyone can vote for the Tories beggars belief. I accept that Labour is shite as well but you cannot reward those selfish, corrupt bastards with another 4 years. They have run the country into the ground over the last 14 years. I would like Labour to not challenge the Libs in marginal Tory seats where the Libs have a fighting chance. We have to try and diversify and the fewer Tories the better in my opinion. If Reform and Greens can get a few seats even better...although I think Reform will not win a seat but could take voters from the Tories. I don't think there is any doubt that the next government will be labour led but if you think there will be more than fag paper difference between the incumbent left leaning tory party and the right leaning Labour Party then you will be sadly disappointed. Selfish, corrupt bastards always find their way to the top. Their policies are quite different. If you think they are the same, you haven’t educated yourself on it.
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Post by crouchpotato1 on May 23, 2024 7:32:44 GMT
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Post by Northy on May 23, 2024 7:41:49 GMT
It's on the 4th July, why another political thread ?
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Post by crouchpotato1 on May 23, 2024 7:43:28 GMT
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Post by tuum on May 23, 2024 7:43:33 GMT
I am ok with that. Corbyn had some reasonable ideas and he is on the side of the oppressed. The more independents the better. At least the debates will be more varied which may help to shape other MP's views on legislation even if Labour will have a big enough majority to do as they please.
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Post by tuum on May 23, 2024 7:45:28 GMT
He should stand as well and, hopefully, get elected. I am all for diversity and diluting the red and blue ponds...especially the blue one.
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Post by crouchpotato1 on May 23, 2024 7:45:50 GMT
I am ok with that. Corbyn had some reasonable ideas and he is on the side of the oppressed. The more independents the better. At least the debates will be more varied which may help to shape other MP's views on legislation even if Labour will have a big enough majority to do as they please. Each to their own mate.I personally wouldn’t want the vile horrible individual anywhere near Parliament ever again
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Post by salopstick on May 23, 2024 8:02:42 GMT
Labour are going to win. Win big but maybe not as big as the polls suggest.
Its not good for any party to have tolong a run history shows the slease at the end of Thatcher/Major's run, the expenses scandal at the end of brown/blair and now the corruption at the end of this run
its time for a change. a change is as good as a rest and this time i just see a labour party with pretty much the same ideology as the tories.
starmer has no charisma and the only thing he has going for him is he is not tory - that is why i believe his win wont be as big as it could be
Liberals will be the big winner i believe. because that is the anti tory vote that non labour voters will use - that may apply in scotland too
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Post by flea79 on May 23, 2024 8:10:31 GMT
Labour are going to win. Win big but maybe not as big as the polls suggest. Its not good for any party to have tolong a run history shows the slease at the end of Thatcher/Major's run, the expenses scandal at the end of brown/blair and now the corruption at the end of this run its time for a change. a change is as good as a rest and this time i just see a labour party with pretty much the same ideology as the tories. starmer has no charisma and the only thing he has going for him is he is not tory - that is why i believe his win wont be as big as it could be Liberals will be the big winner i believe. because that is the anti tory vote that non labour voters will use - that may apply in scotland too the swing needed for a big majority will be tough to manage, general voter apathy with the two big parties could lead too a lot of protest votes for smaller parties or general spoiling, my money is on a hung parliament and we will end up with a labour government propped up with the Greens, it wont last and we will back at the polls within 2 years
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Post by foghornsgleghorn on May 23, 2024 8:10:51 GMT
Useless twat has had years to decide whether he wants to stand. What he means is he needs to check with his accountant what is likely to be best for his finances.
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Post by claytonscrubs on May 23, 2024 8:14:07 GMT
If he does stand, he might beat the dolphin, but to what porpoise? Whale have to see.
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Post by gawa on May 23, 2024 8:17:19 GMT
Tripping themselves over their own lies. Fair play for Victoria calling it out.
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Post by Clayton Wood on May 23, 2024 8:26:13 GMT
Farage not standing in election
He said: "I will do my bit to help in the campaign, but it is not the right time for me to go any further than that. "Important though the general election is, the contest in the United States of America on 5 November has huge global significance. "A strong America as a close ally is vital for our peace and security."
Eh??
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Post by tommycarlsberg on May 23, 2024 8:41:31 GMT
Farage not standing in election He said: "I will do my bit to help in the campaign, but it is not the right time for me to go any further than that. "Important though the general election is, the contest in the United States of America on 5 November has huge global significance. "A strong America as a close ally is vital for our peace and security." Eh?? Shit house. Completely contradict himself from that conversation he had with Mogg the other day.
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Post by crouchpotato1 on May 23, 2024 8:59:46 GMT
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Post by Eggybread on May 23, 2024 9:12:43 GMT
Havent they done enough damage already to our country with UKIP,the Brexit party and now Reform causing more division.I suppose its what the far right do well,divide people.
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Post by gawa on May 23, 2024 9:16:56 GMT
Should we not be focusing on local issues rather than foreign issues 100s of miles away which are nothing to do with us? Where have we heard that before 🤔. Poor from Nigel that, especially when Reform have a bit of momentum. He could have won a seat this time imo.
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Post by thehartshillbadger on May 23, 2024 9:20:47 GMT
Havent they done enough damage already to our country with UKIP,the Brexit party and now Reform causing more division.I suppose its what the far right do well,divide people. You can’t get much more divided than the country is right now
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Post by desman2 on May 23, 2024 9:29:48 GMT
Havent they done enough damage already to our country with UKIP,the Brexit party and now Reform causing more division.I suppose its what the far right do well,divide people. They haven't done any damage. You can only do damage if people vote you in, ie give you the green light to. With no authority you are just an option.
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Post by Eggybread on May 23, 2024 9:31:09 GMT
Havent they done enough damage already to our country with UKIP,the Brexit party and now Reform causing more division.I suppose its what the far right do well,divide people. You can’t get much more divided than the country is right now They have played a large part in where we are now.
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Post by lordb on May 23, 2024 9:31:40 GMT
Labour are going to win. Win big but maybe not as big as the polls suggest. Its not good for any party to have tolong a run history shows the slease at the end of Thatcher/Major's run, the expenses scandal at the end of brown/blair and now the corruption at the end of this run its time for a change. a change is as good as a rest and this time i just see a labour party with pretty much the same ideology as the tories. starmer has no charisma and the only thing he has going for him is he is not tory - that is why i believe his win wont be as big as it could be Liberals will be the big winner i believe. because that is the anti tory vote that non labour voters will use - that may apply in scotland too the swing needed for a big majority will be tough to manage, general voter apathy with the two big parties could lead too a lot of protest votes for smaller parties or general spoiling, my money is on a hung parliament and we will end up with a labour government propped up with the Greens, it wont last and we will back at the polls within 2 years Propped up by the Greens? They might have 2 MPs
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Post by lordb on May 23, 2024 9:33:00 GMT
Farage not standing in election He said: "I will do my bit to help in the campaign, but it is not the right time for me to go any further than that. "Important though the general election is, the contest in the United States of America on 5 November has huge global significance. "A strong America as a close ally is vital for our peace and security." Eh?? He's defelecting To be fair his judgement that he low chance of getting elected is good Absolute charlatan
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Post by crouchpotato1 on May 23, 2024 9:41:33 GMT
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Post by flea79 on May 23, 2024 10:00:15 GMT
the swing needed for a big majority will be tough to manage, general voter apathy with the two big parties could lead too a lot of protest votes for smaller parties or general spoiling, my money is on a hung parliament and we will end up with a labour government propped up with the Greens, it wont last and we will back at the polls within 2 years Propped up by the Greens? They might have 2 MPs in the past yes but if people vote for them as protest against the big two they could see huge gains, the lib dems will likely see gains too as people will now use them as protest choices, there is no saying that a coalition of the smaller parties could be the king makers at the end of all of this its all if buts and maybes right now but i doubt there will be a clean win for any side
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Post by AlliG on May 23, 2024 10:08:27 GMT
Farage not standing in election He said: "I will do my bit to help in the campaign, but it is not the right time for me to go any further than that. "Important though the general election is, the contest in the United States of America on 5 November has huge global significance. "A strong America as a close ally is vital for our peace and security." Eh?? Bloke has more reverse gears than an Italian tank!
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Post by Robo10 on May 23, 2024 10:09:41 GMT
electionmaps.uk/nowcastWorth following this page - poll of polls and a real explanation of seat impacts etc All speculation and lets not forget how wrong all the pollsters were in 2019, but a lot has changed and lifes been a little/lot shitter for most people through Covid, Economic mismanagement, Policies, and the pigs caught all having their noses in the trough This is their current forecast: ![](//storage.proboards.com/800541/thumbnailer/ELAhJMzaQFjRlzTygjBy.png)
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Post by salopstick on May 23, 2024 10:12:02 GMT
Havent they done enough damage already to our country with UKIP,the Brexit party and now Reform causing more division.I suppose its what the far right do well,divide people. people like you with quotes like that widen the divide
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Post by Deleted on May 23, 2024 10:13:54 GMT
Farage not standing in election He said: "I will do my bit to help in the campaign, but it is not the right time for me to go any further than that. "Important though the general election is, the contest in the United States of America on 5 November has huge global significance. "A strong America as a close ally is vital for our peace and security." Eh?? He's defelecting To be fair his judgement that he low chance of getting elected is good Absolute charlatan . He also earns a lot more money by not going into politics. Recasting himself as some sort of political savant has been a very profitable business for him. Why take the risk of losing that?
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Post by Eggybread on May 23, 2024 10:18:05 GMT
Havent they done enough damage already to our country with UKIP,the Brexit party and now Reform causing more division.I suppose its what the far right do well,divide people. people like you with quotes like that widen the divide What’s a person like me supposed to mean?And what do you disagree with regarding my comments? They have done damage ,fact ,and the far right divide people fact.
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Post by salopstick on May 23, 2024 10:22:07 GMT
people like you with quotes like that widen the divide What’s a person like me supposed to mean?And what do you disagree with regarding my comments? They have done damage ,fact ,and the far right divide people fact. no more than the far left - its a back handed way of having ago at people who actually vote for them they do the same with anyone who voted brexit
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