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Post by thisisouryear on Jul 5, 2024 15:32:08 GMT
I will be looking forward to who Grant Schapps makes his comeback as
For this election Matthew I'm gonna be ......
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Post by rickyfullerbeer on Jul 5, 2024 15:36:27 GMT
Angela Rayner’s clobber is absolutely atrocious.
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Post by bridgnorthstokie on Jul 5, 2024 15:36:53 GMT
"Unelectable' 🤣 The funny thing more so are the starmerhoids mental gymnastics trying to explain how Starmer made the party electable. Crazy that some one with less than 40% of the national backing gets to lead the country. Reform had far more votes nationally than the ĺib dems but get 4 seats while lib dem get 71.... democracy at its worst....heavily in favour of the big boys lab and con.... ...abit like the big 6 dominating English football...as corrupt as can be but it'll never change
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Post by stoke1989 on Jul 5, 2024 15:37:32 GMT
"Unelectable' 🤣 The funny thing more so are the starmerhoids mental gymnastics trying to explain how Starmer made the party electable. Starmer didn't have to do anything, other than stand back and watch rishi and the tories crumble.
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Post by bridgnorthstokie on Jul 5, 2024 15:39:33 GMT
Starmer wasting no time with his cabinet, this is what organisation looks like It's the optimism that kills you!!
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Post by prestwichpotter on Jul 5, 2024 15:40:51 GMT
Angela Rayner’s clobber is absolutely atrocious. Annoys me a bit does this, she's a public servant not Victoria Beckham. Who gives a shit what she's wearing?
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Post by prestwichpotter on Jul 5, 2024 15:43:28 GMT
Starmer wasting no time with his cabinet, this is what organisation looks like "Starmer can chair a meeting. He can draft a minute. He can lead a team. He can hold a press conference. He can stay calm in an interview. He can sort his team out before Wes Streeting has burnt down his local pet shop. Those skills look simple, but they’re not, and they’re vital."
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Post by gawa on Jul 5, 2024 15:44:06 GMT
"Unelectable' 🤣 The funny thing more so are the starmerhoids mental gymnastics trying to explain how Starmer made the party electable. Starmer didn't have to do anything, other than stand back and watch rishi and the tories crumble. Failing upwards comes to mind. Near 13 million votes - "he's unelectable" Over 10 million votes - "he's unelectable" Over 9 million votes - "he's changed the party and made them electable" 🤣🤣🤣
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Post by cobhamstokey on Jul 5, 2024 15:49:11 GMT
Angela Rayner’s clobber is absolutely atrocious. Annoys me a bit does this, she's a public servant not Victoria Beckham. Who gives a shit what she's wearing? It has to be said when you look at her appearance compared to Boris she does look like Victoria Beckham. That said she’s probably been up all night so is going to be cream crackered. Maybe I’m a bit old fashioned but if I’m representing my country in really important meetings looking smart is a given or at least should be.
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Post by CBUFAWKIPWH on Jul 5, 2024 15:50:31 GMT
Starmer didn't have to do anything, other than stand back and watch rishi and the tories crumble. Failing upwards comes to mind. Near 13 million votes - "he's unelectable" Over 10 million votes - "he's unelectable" Over 9 million votes - "he's changed the party and made them electable" 🤣🤣🤣 Err...well yes that's exactly what he has done. With fewer votes. I'm sure Corbyn would wipe the floor with Starmer in a who looks most like grandad competition but it's hardly a marker of political prowess.
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Post by thisisouryear on Jul 5, 2024 15:52:11 GMT
Starmer wasting no time with his cabinet, this is what organisation looks like It's the optimism that kills you!! There has to be a level of professionalism from our government and this is a good start. If he can hold it together over 5 years that will be a big test and If he can apply this level of organisation to our services we might start getting things to work again. He's Prime Minister now so let's see what he can do to fix this country
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Post by prestwichpotter on Jul 5, 2024 15:56:57 GMT
Annoys me a bit does this, she's a public servant not Victoria Beckham. Who gives a shit what she's wearing? It has to be said when you look at her appearance compared to Boris she does look like Victoria Beckham. That said she’s probably been up all night so is going to be cream crackered. Maybe I’m a bit old fashioned but if I’m representing my country in really important meetings looking smart is a given or at least should be. Cheers Wayne Hemingway........
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Post by cobhamstokey on Jul 5, 2024 16:00:37 GMT
It has to be said when you look at her appearance compared to Boris she does look like Victoria Beckham. That said she’s probably been up all night so is going to be cream crackered. Maybe I’m a bit old fashioned but if I’m representing my country in really important meetings looking smart is a given or at least should be. Cheers Wayne Hemingway........ Cheers more Paul Smith though
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Jul 5, 2024 16:00:56 GMT
I will be looking forward to who Grant Schapps makes his comeback as For this election Matthew I'm gonna be ...... He's apparently still going to take his seat in the commons. Reckons he can use all his aliases to make it through to the next election.
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Post by cobhamstokey on Jul 5, 2024 16:02:02 GMT
It's the optimism that kills you!! There has to be a level of professionalism from our government and this is a good start. If he can hold it together over 5 years that will be a big test and If he can apply this level of organisation to our services we might start getting things to work again. He's Prime Minister now so let's see what he can do to fix this country Agreed they seem a pretty solid bunch. No Corbynites?
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Post by bridgnorthstokie on Jul 5, 2024 16:05:35 GMT
There has to be a level of professionalism from our government and this is a good start. If he can hold it together over 5 years that will be a big test and If he can apply this level of organisation to our services we might start getting things to work again. He's Prime Minister now so let's see what he can do to fix this country Agreed they seem a pretty solid bunch. No Corbynites? Apart from Rayner, Lammy and the bloke who helped put together Corbyns left wing manifesto...think his name was stormer or starmer or something like that.
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Jul 5, 2024 16:06:06 GMT
Cheers Wayne Hemingway........ Cheers more Paul Smith though Painters in again at Chez Prestwich
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Post by Dave the Rave on Jul 5, 2024 16:06:59 GMT
Annoys me a bit does this, she's a public servant not Victoria Beckham. Who gives a shit what she's wearing? It has to be said when you look at her appearance compared to Boris she does look like Victoria Beckham. That said she’s probably been up all night so is going to be cream crackered. Maybe I’m a bit old fashioned but if I’m representing my country in really important meetings looking smart is a given or at least should be. In 2024 I'm more interested in substance over style. I couldn't give a flying fuck how anyone chooses to dress to be perfectly honest. It's old hat to think that professionalism comes from the way we dress. Always makes me laugh to see weather presenters dressed in a suit. Why the hell do you need to wear that to tell people it's going to be pissing it down?
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Post by cobhamstokey on Jul 5, 2024 16:17:29 GMT
It has to be said when you look at her appearance compared to Boris she does look like Victoria Beckham. That said she’s probably been up all night so is going to be cream crackered. Maybe I’m a bit old fashioned but if I’m representing my country in really important meetings looking smart is a given or at least should be. In 2024 I'm more interested in substance over style. I couldn't give a flying fuck how anyone chooses to dress to be perfectly honest. It's old hat to think that professionalism comes from the way we dress. Always makes me laugh to see weather presenters dressed in a suit. Why the hell do you need to wear that to tell people it's going to be pissing it down? I guess we’re all different and a lot depends on the circumstances / job role but first impressions are important and if I’m a world leader and someone turns up looking like a scruff i’m not going to be impressed. From looking at the photos the majority of the cabinet feel the same.
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Post by oggyoggy on Jul 5, 2024 16:18:02 GMT
Reform have a 5th seat
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Post by gawa on Jul 5, 2024 16:18:19 GMT
Failing upwards comes to mind. Near 13 million votes - "he's unelectable" Over 10 million votes - "he's unelectable" Over 9 million votes - "he's changed the party and made them electable" 🤣🤣🤣 Err...well yes that's exactly what he has done. With fewer votes. I'm sure Corbyn would wipe the floor with Starmer in a who looks most like grandad competition but it's hardly a marker of political prowess. So less people voting for you in an election makes you electable? I think a bit more gratitude and appreciation should be shown towards uncle Nige to be honest. Especially after the comments some starmer fans made about him. Nige and Keith brothers in arms helping eachothter get elected. Wonder if they'll carry their partnership forward in not campaigning in eachothers target seats. 🤔 Starmer now has 5 years to shift further right before Carol Vorderman and the rest of the champagne centrists can tell us all to vote further right wing Starmer to keep out big scary Farage. Centrists always insulting the right while pandering closer towards them with each passing election.
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Post by Mr_DaftBurger on Jul 5, 2024 16:19:07 GMT
Vote percentage currently 33.8 Labour, 23.8 conservative, 14.3 Reform, 12.4 Lib Dem, 6.4 Green Seat percentage currently 63.1 Labour, 18.3 Conservative, 0.6 Reform, 10.9 LD, 0.6 Green Anyone really want to defend FPTP as an electoral system? It’s a joke of a system. Any system where a two parties get all the votes, but one is slightly ahead by 650 votes, 1 in each constituency, which could mean they win every seat is a shambles. Yes that’s an incredibly extreme example but still, it doesn’t work. Bring back rotten boroughs! 😂
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Jul 5, 2024 16:20:09 GMT
Goarrrrn Nige and the lads
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Post by oggyoggy on Jul 5, 2024 16:22:01 GMT
Goarrrrn Nige and the lads 4 million votes for 5 seats compared with 200,000 for Sinn Fein’s 7 seats!
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Jul 5, 2024 16:24:10 GMT
Goarrrrn Nige and the lads 4 million votes for 5 seats compared with 200,000 for Sinn Fein’s 7 seats! It is what it is🤷🏻♂️ jist please they have some representation now at least
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Post by adri2008 on Jul 5, 2024 16:25:31 GMT
Not seen a seat by seat list anywhere but there must be a huge amount of marginals in 2029.
Either way, its in Labour's hands to deliver something tangiblev now. Imo their manifesto wasnt brave enough to do this but we shall see.
I suspect the large majority will trigger a rush of business investment (due to the stability it will provide) which will be helpful on the finance front.
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Post by AlliG on Jul 5, 2024 16:25:59 GMT
Very true that. The win in Stoke South is all the more remarkable given they pulled Yarnfield and Swynnerton into it. There'll be some sore losers around here for a while! I know at least one. Hello Mum.
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Jul 5, 2024 16:27:20 GMT
I have woken up this morning with a song in my head, all together now let's make it a..........Fantastic Day 😁😁😁😁😁 I was thinking more like " Highway to Hell". Just watch how the markets react tomorrow, and how the pound is going to bomb against USD & Euro. If anyone planning a holiday to Europe in the next few weeks, buy your Euro's now... Labour are going to cripple us... Well, as predicted, this aged about as well as a pint of full cream milk in 30ºC heat 😆
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Post by werrington on Jul 5, 2024 16:32:59 GMT
Annoys me a bit does this, she's a public servant not Victoria Beckham. Who gives a shit what she's wearing? It has to be said when you look at her appearance compared to Boris she does look like Victoria Beckham. That said she’s probably been up all night so is going to be cream crackered. Maybe I’m a bit old fashioned but if I’m representing my country in really important meetings looking smart is a given or at least should be. Like Theresa Coffey?
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Post by essexstokey on Jul 5, 2024 16:36:44 GMT
Nobody is mentioning the elephant in the room on turnout and Labour vote suppression that of voter id Why do you think voter ID suppresses the Labour vote. I don’t understand? People with less money tend to not need passports or drive or need photo id as they can't afford these same people are usually Labour voters when the tories introduced this they knew it would suppress the Labour vote and they were informed of this by external independent sources
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