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Post by apb1 on May 7, 2024 11:45:17 GMT
Thanks We'd also need to factor in loan fees for some I suppose. Travers (with refund?), Iversen, Hoever, Cundle, Chiquinho (!) and McNally would have eaten into the budget a bit too. But I don't know really if we had capacity to buy more but the players weren't available, or indeed if we overspent and need to be more miserly this time..
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Post by lordb on May 7, 2024 11:45:32 GMT
This type of fee seems a bit out of whack, based on what we spent last summer? About 8m in and around 13 spent - so net spend of about 5ish? (plus about another 3.5 on Million in Jan) So what are we anticipating this time? Tymon 2.7 Taylor 0.3 Brown 5.0 Mmaee 1.75 Bae 2 Gooch 1 Pearson 0.5 Vidigal 0.5 Jojic 1 Leris 0.8 Tchamadeu 1 Burger 4.3 Manhoef 3.5 How much was Ennis? Did he command a fee? Or were they just desperate to get rid? About £500k However transfer fees are different to ascertain in football as fees are inflated or reduced by the time they get reported or are undisclosed altogether plus loads of reported fees include total fee of all add ons paid Vokes was £7m rising to £9m + Crouch so was reported as £9m So in his case £7m Gooch was about £750k but reported as £1m deal And so on Really needs to be greater transparency re fees and agents fees
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Post by Bojan Mackey on May 7, 2024 11:47:09 GMT
Hopefully we sign Baylee Dipepa from the Fail and we can have Salter and Dipepa in the same team.
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Post by march4 on May 7, 2024 11:49:10 GMT
Is this lad the dominant leader we’ve been desperate for since relegation?
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Post by thornestein on May 7, 2024 11:50:18 GMT
Is this lad the dominant leader we’ve been desperate for since relegation? though he’s a decent player i wouldn’t say he was a leader
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Post by Clem Fandango on May 7, 2024 11:50:18 GMT
Surely Jared's sexy algorithms can find someone called Jacka Clarke’a-Saltera playing in the Polish second division for a snip of the transfer being talked about here? would work permits be an issue ? It will be interesting to see where we are with those. Wesley I believe needed a permit which will be a space freed up and I'm not sure how the wildcard system works as well and whether we get any of those places back.
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Post by FullerMagic on May 7, 2024 11:51:16 GMT
Thanks We'd also need to factor in loan fees for some I suppose. Travers (with refund?), Iversen, Hoever, Cundle, Chiquinho (!) and McNally would have eaten into the budget a bit too. But I don't know really if we had capacity to buy more but the players weren't available, or indeed if we overspent and need to be more miserly this time.. Yeah, definitely. It doesn't give you the whole picture. Definitely a considerable sum on loan fees. www.stokesentinel.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/stoke-city-transfer-agent-fees-9222037 Another 2m on agent fees too. But, still, something in the order of 5-7 on someone like JCS seems to be a bit of a step change, especially with no big sales expected.
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Post by march4 on May 7, 2024 11:51:48 GMT
Is this lad the dominant leader we’ve been desperate for since relegation? though he’s a decent player i wouldn’t say he was a leader So we would need another centre back to partner him who is.
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Post by mickstupp on May 7, 2024 11:52:16 GMT
Is this lad the dominant leader we’ve been desperate for since relegation? Do those players exist anymore? I can’t think of many.
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Post by thornestein on May 7, 2024 11:52:58 GMT
though he’s a decent player i wouldn’t say he was a leader So we would need another centre back to partner him who is. i would think so but they’re few and far between
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Post by thornestein on May 7, 2024 11:53:57 GMT
Is this lad the dominant leader we’ve been desperate for since relegation? Do those players exist anymore? I can’t think of many. his partner at qpr is u would say
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Post by FullerMagic on May 7, 2024 11:55:39 GMT
would work permits be an issue ? It will be interesting to see where we are with those. Wesley I believe needed a permit which will be a space freed up and I'm not sure how the wildcard system works as well and whether we get any of those places back. analyticsfc.co.uk/blog/2023/06/21/introducing-esc-the-new-gbe-guidance-opens-up-recruitment-post-brexit/Looks like it's a max of 4 at any one time. Based on who we think were the wild cards.... Bae and Burger's seasons will mean that they no longer have to take up a wild card slot in 24/25 as they're now qualified through getting 15+ points on the checklist due to their Championship appearances. Wes has gone. So that leaves just Jojic. So we could have 3 more slots if 35% of our team minutes have gone to English-qualified players (which may be a bit of a stretch given our lack of English-qualified players?) That reduces to a maximum 3 for 30%, 2 for 25% and 1 for 20%
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Post by Clem Fandango on May 7, 2024 12:10:46 GMT
It will be interesting to see where we are with those. Wesley I believe needed a permit which will be a space freed up and I'm not sure how the wildcard system works as well and whether we get any of those places back. analyticsfc.co.uk/blog/2023/06/21/introducing-esc-the-new-gbe-guidance-opens-up-recruitment-post-brexit/Looks like it's a max of 4 at any one time. Based on who we think were the wild cards.... Bae and Burger's seasons will mean that they no longer have to take up a wild card slot in 24/25 as they're now qualified through getting 15+ points on the checklist due to their Championship appearances. Wes has gone. So that leaves just Jojic. So we could have 3 more slots if 35% of our team minutes have gone to English-qualified players (which may be a bit of a stretch given our lack of English-qualified players?) That reduces to a maximum 3 for 30%, 2 for 25% and 1 for 20% Nice one FM. Thats interesting I wasn't sure if players 'converted' to non-wildcards after x number of minutes. So it shouldnt massively restrict Dublin in unearthening another gem then.
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Post by march4 on May 7, 2024 12:11:34 GMT
Is this lad the dominant leader we’ve been desperate for since relegation? Do those players exist anymore? I can’t think of many. That’s very true, they tend to be midfielders (12 Championship clubs) these days but I think we are well stocked in that position. Full back is another option popular with clubs. The alternative is to upgrade Laurent in midfield. We do need a leader though.
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Post by lordb on May 7, 2024 12:19:26 GMT
Do those players exist anymore? I can’t think of many. That’s very true, they tend to be midfielders (12 Championship clubs) these days but I think we are well stocked in that position. Full back is another option popular with clubs. The alternative is to upgrade Laurent in midfield. We do need a leader though. Burger leads
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Post by J-Roar on May 7, 2024 12:28:20 GMT
That’s very true, they tend to be midfielders (12 Championship clubs) these days but I think we are well stocked in that position. Full back is another option popular with clubs. The alternative is to upgrade Laurent in midfield. We do need a leader though. Burger leads They'd be rubbish - the dog would keep eating them
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Post by pottersrule on May 7, 2024 12:28:51 GMT
This type of fee seems a bit out of whack, based on what we spent last summer? About 8m in and around 13 spent - so net spend of about 5ish? (plus about another 3.5 on Million in Jan) So what are we anticipating this time? Tymon 2.7 Taylor 0.3 Brown 5.0 Mmaee 1.75 Bae 2 Gooch 1 Pearson 0.5 Vidigal 0.5 Jojic 1 Leris 0.8 Tchamadeu 1 Burger 4.3 Manhoef 3.5 Most quotes for Ryan Maee say we paid £3.4 million for him 😱😱
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Post by FullerMagic on May 7, 2024 12:31:45 GMT
This type of fee seems a bit out of whack, based on what we spent last summer? About 8m in and around 13 spent - so net spend of about 5ish? (plus about another 3.5 on Million in Jan) So what are we anticipating this time? Tymon 2.7 Taylor 0.3 Brown 5.0 Mmaee 1.75 Bae 2 Gooch 1 Pearson 0.5 Vidigal 0.5 Jojic 1 Leris 0.8 Tchamadeu 1 Burger 4.3 Manhoef 3.5 Most quotes for Ryan Maee say we paid £3.4 million for him 😱😱 Yeah - think that was based on all kinds of add-ons. Initial fee seems to have been reported as about half that with the bulk of the rest based on promotion according to Hungarian reports I think. www.stokesentinel.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/stoke-city-ryan-mmaee-transfer-9089805Mmaee joined Stoke from Hungary champions Ferencvaros for an initial fee of about £1.75m
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Post by nickstokefc on May 7, 2024 12:49:04 GMT
My Brother in law is a season ticket in the upper loft, he says there local news says stoke westbrom and Hull have all contacted Qpr and the fee is around £4m mark, he was there player of the season bye far for the last 2 years
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Post by gingerninja on May 7, 2024 12:53:54 GMT
I wouldn't want us spunking that sort of money on one player, £2 million tops..I think this pre season has to be spot on, I think it was reported by John Percy, that last seasons was awful. I think SS prides himself on proper training, every day and I can see us being super fit from the word go, which you would expect as a minimum..Get recruitment spot on this summer and I can easily see a top 6 finish on the horizon.
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Post by vinnyoverson on May 7, 2024 13:02:53 GMT
A good player from what I’ve seen but that’s a crazy fee and one I hope we wouldn’t even consider given other needs.
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Post by onionman on May 7, 2024 13:09:38 GMT
Is this lad the dominant leader we’ve been desperate for since relegation? Do those players exist anymore? I can’t think of many. Steve Cook is the obvious example. There must be other old warhorses like him, currently not getting regular games for teams at the lower end of the Prem, or higher end of the Championship?
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Post by jesusmcmuffin on May 7, 2024 13:10:13 GMT
Tranfer fees are paid over the length of a contract in installments usually so be looking at about £1 million originally
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Post by mickstupp on May 7, 2024 13:14:38 GMT
Do those players exist anymore? I can’t think of many. Steve Cook is the obvious example. There must be other old warhorses like him, currently not getting regular games for teams at the lower end of the Prem, or higher end of the Championship? I think we’ve been tentatively linked with Conor Coady who would also fit the bill.
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Post by davethebass on May 7, 2024 13:20:38 GMT
Left footed defender. Very good player. For possibly the most crucial position we need I'm wondering if a bit of an outlay there might be a canny move. Quality not quantity I've heard said.
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Post by Paul Spencer on May 7, 2024 13:28:26 GMT
Thanks We'd also need to factor in loan fees for some I suppose. Travers (with refund?), Iversen, Hoever, Cundle, Chiquinho (!) and McNally would have eaten into the budget a bit too. But I don't know really if we had capacity to buy more but the players weren't available, or indeed if we overspent and need to be more miserly this time.. Yeah, definitely. It doesn't give you the whole picture. Definitely a considerable sum on loan fees. www.stokesentinel.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/stoke-city-transfer-agent-fees-9222037 Another 2m on agent fees too. But, still, something in the order of 5-7 on someone like JCS seems to be a bit of a step change, especially with no big sales expected. Could it be that it's QPR who have actually leaked the story to Percy and we have absolutely no intention whatsoever of paying what they're asking for him initially?
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Post by Gods on May 7, 2024 13:50:15 GMT
I'm taking this rumour with a pinch of salt.
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Post by Caerwrangonpotter on May 7, 2024 14:33:29 GMT
Sounds a bit pricey & I sure their has to be better out there
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Post by march4 on May 7, 2024 14:43:02 GMT
That’s very true, they tend to be midfielders (12 Championship clubs) these days but I think we are well stocked in that position. Full back is another option popular with clubs. The alternative is to upgrade Laurent in midfield. We do need a leader though. Burger leads For 50 minutes. Big pre-season ahead for Burger. Needs to improve his stamina.
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Post by baconburger on May 7, 2024 14:46:36 GMT
This type of fee seems a bit out of whack, based on what we spent last summer? About 8m in and around 13 spent - so net spend of about 5ish? (plus about another 3.5 on Million in Jan) So what are we anticipating this time? Tymon 2.7 Taylor 0.3 Brown 5.0 Mmaee 1.75 Bae 2 Gooch 1 Pearson 0.5 Vidigal 0.5 Jojic 1 Leris 0.8 Tchamadeu 1 Burger 4.3 Manhoef 3.5 Net spend of about £5M if you pretend the Souttar money disappeared into thin air otherwise a net spend of -£10M. So easy to pull the wool over peoples eyes.
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