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Post by go4stoke on May 6, 2024 9:51:33 GMT
Has Stephen Schumacher unlocked the conundrum that other managers are failed to do regarding home form for the last few games picked up points West Brom 2-2 Huddersfield town 1-1 Plymouth3-0 Bristol city 4-0
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Post by go4stoke on May 6, 2024 9:53:37 GMT
Has Stephen Schumacher unlocked the conundrum that other managers are failed to do regarding home form for the last few games picked up points West Brom 2-2 Huddersfield town 1-1 Plymouth 3-0 Bristol city 4-0
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Post by potterpanzera on May 6, 2024 9:59:59 GMT
Having Cundle, Junho & Million linking well, with pace, during transitions appears to have given confidence to our back line in delivering swiftly either down the channels or direct through Junho once we've defended/regained possession. We've previously, from my view anywho, allowed teams to pressure us high up the pitch. Knowing we can regain the ball and rely upon the pace/trickery of the passing and movement of those 3 has really given us a bit of confidence. Nevertheless, even against BC, we cant defend for toffee at times. Either way, play dynamic football, get the home crowd roaring, form and confidence at home should prosper. If we continue as we have performed these past few, at home, next season than at least we can all turn up and simply believe anything could happen. For example, sweeping BC for 4...what a cracker to tease us into 24/25! UTMP
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Post by mickstupp on May 6, 2024 10:17:55 GMT
10 goals in four games is certainly promising, and we’ve also come back from losing positions to get results recently which is another step forward.
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Post by FullerMagic on May 6, 2024 10:21:15 GMT
Table after the Cardiff game makes pleasant viewing!
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Post by bayernoatcake on May 6, 2024 10:24:41 GMT
It’s almost like trying to win them might make a difference 🤣
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Post by chiswickpotter on May 6, 2024 10:25:43 GMT
10 goals in four games is certainly promising, and we’ve also come back from losing positions to get results recently also which is another step forward. Agreed and WBA was a good showing. Drawing with Huddersfield wasn’t great and both Plymouth and Bristol City set up very poorly making it easy to play through them. Our challenge is to find a consistently competitive midfield. For me that doesn’t include Laurent who can’t defend nor Thompson who is a back up midfielder.
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Post by lordb on May 6, 2024 10:28:14 GMT
It’s almost like trying to win them might make a difference 🤣 Can't say there has been a single home game where this manager hasn't gone out to attack including, perhaps naively, Leicester at home (at 2 down he was chucking forwards on) Brighton in the cup too, we had a go
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Post by mickstupp on May 6, 2024 10:28:51 GMT
It’s almost like trying to win them might make a difference 🤣 Or he simply had a better idea of the strengths and limitations of his squad after a some admittedly poor showings against Leicester, Coventry, and Norwich?
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Post by lordb on May 6, 2024 10:29:00 GMT
Anyway still far too many home defeats
9 was it in the League?
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Post by Pugsley on May 6, 2024 10:46:07 GMT
People still peddling shit I see.
We need to improve on results but the intent is there.
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Post by foxysgloves on May 6, 2024 10:47:25 GMT
Table after the Cardiff game makes pleasant viewing! We should be top. Coward.
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Post by mickstupp on May 6, 2024 11:00:47 GMT
10 goals in four games is certainly promising, and we’ve also come back from losing positions to get results recently also which is another step forward. Agreed and WBA was a good showing. Drawing with Huddersfield wasn’t great and both Plymouth and Bristol City set up very poorly making it easy to play through them. Our challenge is to find a consistently competitive midfield. For me that doesn’t include Laurent who can’t defend nor Thompson who is a back up midfielder. I can see maybe one more midfielder coming in. Maybe two if Baker leaves. I think another complete overhaul of the squad is unrealistic and on the basis that we need another keeper, several new defenders and more forwards, I don’t see midfield as a priority even though there’s certainly room for improvement in there.
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Post by bayernoatcake on May 6, 2024 11:36:55 GMT
It’s almost like trying to win them might make a difference 🤣 Can't say there has been a single home game where this manager hasn't gone out to attack including, perhaps naively, Leicester at home (at 2 down he was chucking forwards on) Brighton in the cup too, we had a go 🤣🤣the Leicester game he shat himself by playing the back 3. Always a negative tactic at home.
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Post by mickstupp on May 6, 2024 11:44:08 GMT
Can't say there has been a single home game where this manager hasn't gone out to attack including, perhaps naively, Leicester at home (at 2 down he was chucking forwards on) Brighton in the cup too, we had a go 🤣🤣the Leicester game he shat himself by playing the back 3. Always a negative tactic at home. It certainly backfired that day, but playing a back three isn’t necessarily a negative tactic.
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Post by dirtygary69 on May 6, 2024 11:44:39 GMT
Good stats to end the season with, but he did not attack Leicester or Norwich, we just set up horrifically.
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Post by thornestein on May 6, 2024 11:44:54 GMT
🤣🤣the Leicester game he shat himself by playing the back 3. Always a negative tactic at home. It certainly backfired that day, but playing a back three isn’t necessarily a negative tactic. it always seems that way when we play it
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Post by LphPotter on May 6, 2024 12:31:31 GMT
Can't say there has been a single home game where this manager hasn't gone out to attack including, perhaps naively, Leicester at home (at 2 down he was chucking forwards on) Brighton in the cup too, we had a go 🤣🤣the Leicester game he shat himself by playing the back 3. Always a negative tactic at home. We didn’t play a back 3 against Leicester at home though I don’t know why you keep saying that. We played with the inverted full back system that we kept trying to do which our full backs were not capable of. It was the same system that we used in most games around then until qpr, where we played a back 3 and won a massive must win game. Schumacher has proven he is adaptable and that’s what you need, you cannot be stubborn and just play one way every single game which you seem to want, he has learnt that and for me that’s a very good sign.
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Post by skiptomylou on May 6, 2024 14:12:37 GMT
Table after the Cardiff game makes pleasant viewing! Hoping this last 1/4 of the season shows what the current squad, having settled into a new country and new method of approach under SS can potentially achieve, I'm really hoping we keep as much continuity as possible with the squad. As SS has said previously, I don't think we're too far away. 10-11 players leaving and coming every season will only be a detriment. We need to get turnover down as much as possible and let natural progression kick in to about 4-6 a season. IMO.
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Post by jm on May 6, 2024 14:19:15 GMT
10 goals in four games is certainly promising, and we’ve also come back from losing positions to get results recently also which is another step forward. Agreed and WBA was a good showing. Drawing with Huddersfield wasn’t great and both Plymouth and Bristol City set up very poorly making it easy to play through them. Our challenge is to find a consistently competitive midfield. For me that doesn’t include Laurent who can’t defend nor Thompson who is a back up midfielder. Huddersfield were quite good that day though, deserved the draw.
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Post by walrus on May 6, 2024 14:30:48 GMT
It’s almost like trying to win them might make a difference 🤣 Can't say there has been a single home game where this manager hasn't gone out to attack including, perhaps naively, Leicester at home (at 2 down he was chucking forwards on) Brighton in the cup too, we had a go Leicester, QPR, Coventry, and Norwich were games where we set up with a system designed to at best grind out a result. And for the most part it backfired badly. We managed a grand total of eleven shots on target across those four games, scoring one goal from a set piece and zero from open play. Those four home games are a large part of the reason that I and lot of other fans lost faith in Schumacher. We were promised exciting, front foot football, especially at home, and for a period he delivered the exact opposite, which I could swallow if it was getting results but it wasn’t. Happily I’ve been partly won back around by recent much more positive selections and performances but that period was pretty dire.
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Post by LphPotter on May 6, 2024 15:34:55 GMT
Can't say there has been a single home game where this manager hasn't gone out to attack including, perhaps naively, Leicester at home (at 2 down he was chucking forwards on) Brighton in the cup too, we had a go Leicester, QPR, Coventry, and Norwich were games where we set up with a system designed to at best grind out a result. And for the most part it backfired badly. We managed a grand total of eleven shots on target across those four games, scoring one goal from a set piece and zero from open play. Those four home games are a large part of the reason that I and lot of other fans lost faith in Schumacher. We were promised exciting, front foot football, especially at home, and for a period he delivered the exact opposite, which I could swallow if it was getting results but it wasn’t. Happily I’ve been partly won back around by recent much more positive selections and performances but that period was pretty dire. The first game that you can realistically say we set up to grind out of a result was QPR and it worked, we had lost the previous 4 games in a row and had to stop the rot. The fact that he changed the system, which was clearly not working at that time and got a result from it is a positive.
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Post by walrus on May 6, 2024 16:13:33 GMT
Leicester, QPR, Coventry, and Norwich were games where we set up with a system designed to at best grind out a result. And for the most part it backfired badly. We managed a grand total of eleven shots on target across those four games, scoring one goal from a set piece and zero from open play. Those four home games are a large part of the reason that I and lot of other fans lost faith in Schumacher. We were promised exciting, front foot football, especially at home, and for a period he delivered the exact opposite, which I could swallow if it was getting results but it wasn’t. Happily I’ve been partly won back around by recent much more positive selections and performances but that period was pretty dire. The first game that you can realistically say we set up to grind out of a result was QPR and it worked, we had lost the previous 4 games in a row and had to stop the rot. The fact that he changed the system, which was clearly not working at that time and got a result from it is a positive. Leicester came before QPR. And that was an unmitigated disaster against a side who several times before and since have proved themselves vulnerable against those who have a go. That alone should have been enough for the grinding out results approach to be put to bed and never seen again.
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Post by nott1 on May 6, 2024 16:15:28 GMT
I read the headline as Home Farm....thought we'd signed a cf from Emmerdale!
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Post by datguy on May 6, 2024 16:20:20 GMT
Can't say there has been a single home game where this manager hasn't gone out to attack including, perhaps naively, Leicester at home (at 2 down he was chucking forwards on) Brighton in the cup too, we had a go Leicester, QPR, Coventry, and Norwich were games where we set up with a system designed to at best grind out a result. And for the most part it backfired badly. We managed a grand total of eleven shots on target across those four games, scoring one goal from a set piece and zero from open play. Those four home games are a large part of the reason that I and lot of other fans lost faith in Schumacher. We were promised exciting, front foot football, especially at home, and for a period he delivered the exact opposite, which I could swallow if it was getting results but it wasn’t. Happily I’ve been partly won back around by recent much more positive selections and performances but that period was pretty dire. You're absolutely spot on. Schumacher well and truly shit himself. Thankfully he figured it out and realised attacking and giving it a good go is better than the conservative rubbish served up in those four games.
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Post by skip on May 6, 2024 16:40:10 GMT
Leicester, QPR, Coventry, and Norwich were games where we set up with a system designed to at best grind out a result. And for the most part it backfired badly. We managed a grand total of eleven shots on target across those four games, scoring one goal from a set piece and zero from open play. Those four home games are a large part of the reason that I and lot of other fans lost faith in Schumacher. We were promised exciting, front foot football, especially at home, and for a period he delivered the exact opposite, which I could swallow if it was getting results but it wasn’t. Happily I’ve been partly won back around by recent much more positive selections and performances but that period was pretty dire. You're absolutely spot on. Schumacher well and truly shit himself. Thankfully he figured it out and realised attacking and giving it a good go is better than the conservative rubbish served up in those four games. Did he, as the rather brusque saying goes "shit himself" or did he make a calculated decision that didn't pay off? I think it's doing him a disservice to suggest that when he was working out what formation to put out against one of the league leaders, the best he could muster was visualising a fucking great big slathering spider baring down on him.
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Post by Staffsoatcake on May 6, 2024 16:41:32 GMT
Our home form has been that bad,it wouldn't take that much to improve it.
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Post by clivey05 on May 6, 2024 16:45:52 GMT
Unbeaten at home in 4 games, when did we go last go 5 unbeaten, maybe under O’Neill at the start of his last full season?
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Post by LphPotter on May 6, 2024 16:50:32 GMT
The first game that you can realistically say we set up to grind out of a result was QPR and it worked, we had lost the previous 4 games in a row and had to stop the rot. The fact that he changed the system, which was clearly not working at that time and got a result from it is a positive. Leicester came before QPR. And that was an unmitigated disaster against a side who several times before and since have proved themselves vulnerable against those who have a go. That alone should have been enough for the grinding out results approach to be put to bed and never seen again. You’re right Leicester was a disaster but not because we didn’t have a go, it was a disaster because we gave them far far far too much space and completely left their wingers free to do whatever they wanted. Our set up for that game was nothing like how we set up in the other games you’ve referenced
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Post by ian57 on May 6, 2024 18:37:59 GMT
It’s almost like trying to win them might make a difference 🤣 losing the dressing room and his cowardly tactics didn’t help 😁
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