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Post by bayernoatcake on May 6, 2024 21:21:59 GMT
I’m not though. You lot just don’t see the reality and are acting like we weren’t just nearly relegated and like we haven’t been shit for 8 years and are run by imbeciles. It’s like the fucking twilight zone. But it's not though. We've ended up finishing the league very strongly whilst Schumacher sorted out the last idiots total mess. Which was always going to take someone a while to do. The truth is you're a doom monger and simply want to keep spouting negative shyte. But that's okay it takes all sorts and doesn't make you any less of a fan at all. You have a negative mindset inbuilt. Schumacher will teach you a new way 😃 😉 He changed us immediately and we were playing much better from the get go then he for no reason shit his pants and went away from his philosophy. I can’t respect that. I’m not a doom monger 🤣we’ve been shit for nearly a decade and failed to finish in the top half of a shit league for 6 fucking seasons. It’s gas lighting horsespunk to suggest it’s anything bar worried about something you love and sick to fucking death of watching utter fucking shite.
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May 6, 2024 21:22:42 GMT
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Post by bayernoatcake on May 6, 2024 21:22:42 GMT
He was. There was no need to change from what he was doing. He made us worse for no good reason bar shitting his pants. I’ll say it again, the first time he changed to what you could call a more pragmatic system was against QPR, on the back of 4 straight defeats. So are you saying 4 straight defeats doesn’t warrant a change in tactics? And I’ll say it again, it was after the Brum home game and you’re talking crap. We’ve been over this loads of times and we will never agree.
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May 6, 2024 21:24:29 GMT
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Post by lordb on May 6, 2024 21:24:29 GMT
I’ll say it again, the first time he changed to what you could call a more pragmatic system was against QPR, on the back of 4 straight defeats. So are you saying 4 straight defeats doesn’t warrant a change in tactics? And I’ll say it again, it was after the Brum home game and you’re talking crap. We’ve been over this loads of times and we will never agree. You are talking crap He didn't play conservatively till the QPR match
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May 6, 2024 21:25:51 GMT
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Post by bayernoatcake on May 6, 2024 21:25:51 GMT
And I’ll say it again, it was after the Brum home game and you’re talking crap. We’ve been over this loads of times and we will never agree. You are talking crap He didn't play conservatively till the QPR match He did. He totally shat himself for the Leicester game. It was negative crap.
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May 6, 2024 21:27:40 GMT
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Post by lordb on May 6, 2024 21:27:40 GMT
You are talking crap He didn't play conservatively till the QPR match He did. He totally shat himself for the Leicester game. It was negative crap. Nope He played inverted fullbacks which didn't work Leicester got two quick first half goals and he tried to chase the game by chucking on attackers, last 30 minutes were a shambles There's no way you watch the games
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May 6, 2024 21:30:23 GMT
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Post by bayernoatcake on May 6, 2024 21:30:23 GMT
He did. He totally shat himself for the Leicester game. It was negative crap. Nope He played inverted fullbacks which didn't work Leicester got two quick first half goals and he tried to chase the game by chucking on attackers, last 30 minutes were a shambles There's no way you watch the games The thread upon team selection - person upon person saying how he’s shit himself - oatcakefanzine.proboards.com/thread/311783/pretty-defensive-mmaee-ennis-bench?page=2 I do sadly and we set up to defend and it failed. He totally and utterly shat his self.
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Post by mickeythemaestro on May 6, 2024 21:31:08 GMT
But it's not though. We've ended up finishing the league very strongly whilst Schumacher sorted out the last idiots total mess. Which was always going to take someone a while to do. The truth is you're a doom monger and simply want to keep spouting negative shyte. But that's okay it takes all sorts and doesn't make you any less of a fan at all. You have a negative mindset inbuilt. Schumacher will teach you a new way 😃 😉 He changed us immediately and we were playing much better from the get go then he for no reason shit his pants and went away from his philosophy. I can’t respect that. I’m not a doom monger 🤣we’ve been shit for nearly a decade and failed to finish in the top half of a shit league for 6 fucking seasons. It’s gas lighting horsespunk to suggest it’s anything bar worried about something you love and sick to fucking death of watching utter fucking shite. You're actually revealing the whole problem to yourself but can't see it. Yes we've been shyte for the best part of a decade....and you expect some twat to come in and solve it in an instant? He's had a wobble or 2. But we've finished 4th in the form league over the last 7 incredibly high pressured games. Give the poor fucker a break. And give your sen one whilst you're at it. We are on the way up. He's done an outstanding job all things considered 👍
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May 6, 2024 21:33:06 GMT
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Post by bayernoatcake on May 6, 2024 21:33:06 GMT
He changed us immediately and we were playing much better from the get go then he for no reason shit his pants and went away from his philosophy. I can’t respect that. I’m not a doom monger 🤣we’ve been shit for nearly a decade and failed to finish in the top half of a shit league for 6 fucking seasons. It’s gas lighting horsespunk to suggest it’s anything bar worried about something you love and sick to fucking death of watching utter fucking shite. You're actually revealing the whole problem to yourself but can't see it. Yes we've been shyte for the best part of a decade....and you expect some twat to come in and solve it in an instant? He's had a wobble or 2. But we've finished 4th in the form league over the last 7 incredibly high pressured games. Give the poor fucker a break. And give your sen one whilst you're at it. We are on the way up. He's done an outstanding job all things considered 👍 He did come in and solve it in an instant then shat himself at the first sign of trouble. That’s my issue with him. I don’t have faith he won’t do it again.
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May 6, 2024 21:39:18 GMT
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Post by LphPotter on May 6, 2024 21:39:18 GMT
Nope He played inverted fullbacks which didn't work Leicester got two quick first half goals and he tried to chase the game by chucking on attackers, last 30 minutes were a shambles There's no way you watch the games The thread upon team selection - person upon person saying how he’s shit himself - oatcakefanzine.proboards.com/thread/311783/pretty-defensive-mmaee-ennis-bench?page=2 I do sadly and we set up to defend and it failed. He totally and utterly shat his self. Setting up to defend is not leaving their most dangerous players free every time they get the ball, it’s stupid but it’s not defensive. Gooch was playing so high up the pitch that game it was ridiculous, him and Thompson on the left side should have been doubling up on their winger but Thompson was too busy moving into midfield and Gooch barely got back into our half. That was our setup. No one’s arguing that it wasn’t stupid it just wasn’t defensive.
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May 6, 2024 21:41:12 GMT
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Post by bayernoatcake on May 6, 2024 21:41:12 GMT
Setting up to defend is not leaving their most dangerous players free every time they get the ball, it’s stupid but it’s not defensive. Gooch was playing so high up the pitch that game it was ridiculous, him and Thompson on the left side should have been doubling up on their winger but Thompson was too busy moving into midfield and Gooch barely got back into our half. That was our setup. No one’s arguing that it wasn’t stupid it just wasn’t defensive. We have bad defenders, it happens. But we set up defensively and he totally shat himself. It was a total change from the set up against Brum and we just didn’t have a go like we had been doing.
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May 6, 2024 21:42:40 GMT
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Post by LphPotter on May 6, 2024 21:42:40 GMT
I’ll say it again, the first time he changed to what you could call a more pragmatic system was against QPR, on the back of 4 straight defeats. So are you saying 4 straight defeats doesn’t warrant a change in tactics? And I’ll say it again, it was after the Brum home game and you’re talking crap. We’ve been over this loads of times and we will never agree. The game after Birmingham at home, was Sunderland away. We basically played with 2 defenders for that whole game. If you’re talking about just home games then nah Leicester wasn’t like that at all, wrong personnel and wrong tactics yes. Defensive no.
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May 6, 2024 21:43:38 GMT
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Post by bayernoatcake on May 6, 2024 21:43:38 GMT
And I’ll say it again, it was after the Brum home game and you’re talking crap. We’ve been over this loads of times and we will never agree. The game after Birmingham at home, was Sunderland away. We basically played with 2 defenders for that whole game. If you’re talking about just home games then nah Leicester wasn’t like that at all, wrong personnel and wrong tactics yes. Defensive no. It was defensive. We’re not going to agree. He totally shat himself.
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May 6, 2024 21:45:40 GMT
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Post by LphPotter on May 6, 2024 21:45:40 GMT
Setting up to defend is not leaving their most dangerous players free every time they get the ball, it’s stupid but it’s not defensive. Gooch was playing so high up the pitch that game it was ridiculous, him and Thompson on the left side should have been doubling up on their winger but Thompson was too busy moving into midfield and Gooch barely got back into our half. That was our setup. No one’s arguing that it wasn’t stupid it just wasn’t defensive. We have bad defenders, it happens. But we set up defensively and he totally shat himself. It was a total change from the set up against Brum and we just didn’t have a go like we had been doing. That wasn’t down to bad defenders, that’s how they were being asked to play, it was the exact same system as Birmingham at home, Blackburn away and Sunderland away. We literally just played different wingers but the system was the exact same. He realised after Blackburn away that we couldn’t continue to play like that and rightly so.
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May 6, 2024 21:46:52 GMT
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Post by bayernoatcake on May 6, 2024 21:46:52 GMT
We have bad defenders, it happens. But we set up defensively and he totally shat himself. It was a total change from the set up against Brum and we just didn’t have a go like we had been doing. That wasn’t down to bad defenders, that’s how they were being asked to play, it was the exact same system as Birmingham at home, Blackburn away and Sunderland away. We literally just played different wingers but the system was the exact same. He realised after Blackburn away that we couldn’t continue to play like that and rightly so. Yeah we played a fucking full back there 🤣🤣🤦♂️🤦♂️
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May 6, 2024 21:50:08 GMT
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Post by LphPotter on May 6, 2024 21:50:08 GMT
That wasn’t down to bad defenders, that’s how they were being asked to play, it was the exact same system as Birmingham at home, Blackburn away and Sunderland away. We literally just played different wingers but the system was the exact same. He realised after Blackburn away that we couldn’t continue to play like that and rightly so. Yeah we played a fucking full back there 🤣🤣🤦♂️🤦♂️ If you class Gooch as a full back then yes, I’m not really sure what he is to be honest. But that is not the point, we played him there but his role was the same as Junho, Vidigal or Haks. Hence it was the same system, different personnel does not necessarily mean a different system. We should have played a different system but we didn’t
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May 6, 2024 21:51:37 GMT
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Post by bayernoatcake on May 6, 2024 21:51:37 GMT
Yeah we played a fucking full back there 🤣🤣🤦♂️🤦♂️ If you class Gooch as a full back then yes, I’m not really sure what he is to be honest. But that is not the point, we played him there but his role was the same as Junho, Vidigal or Haks. Hence it was the same system, different personnel does not necessarily mean a different system. We should have played a different system but we didn’t I would class Gooch who is a right back a full back yes. And playing him on the wing is defensive as fuck.
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May 6, 2024 21:52:54 GMT
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Post by mickeythemaestro on May 6, 2024 21:52:54 GMT
You're actually revealing the whole problem to yourself but can't see it. Yes we've been shyte for the best part of a decade....and you expect some twat to come in and solve it in an instant? He's had a wobble or 2. But we've finished 4th in the form league over the last 7 incredibly high pressured games. Give the poor fucker a break. And give your sen one whilst you're at it. We are on the way up. He's done an outstanding job all things considered 👍 He did come in and solve it in an instant then shat himself at the first sign of trouble. That’s my issue with him. I don’t have faith he won’t do it again. And tell me which manager hasn't shit it from time to time. We all do it in life all the time. Why is a football manager different? This last 7 games or so has shown he's at least learnt something. 4th in the form table. Lets be positive. He could be the right man finally...
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May 6, 2024 21:56:18 GMT
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Post by bayernoatcake on May 6, 2024 21:56:18 GMT
He did come in and solve it in an instant then shat himself at the first sign of trouble. That’s my issue with him. I don’t have faith he won’t do it again. And tell me which manager hasn't shit it from time to time. We all do it in life all the time. Why is a football manager different? This last 7 games or so has shown he's at least learnt something. 4th in the form table. Lets be positive. He could be the right man finally... Because they should have their principles and stick to them especially when they were working.
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May 6, 2024 21:59:57 GMT
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Post by mickeythemaestro on May 6, 2024 21:59:57 GMT
And tell me which manager hasn't shit it from time to time. We all do it in life all the time. Why is a football manager different? This last 7 games or so has shown he's at least learnt something. 4th in the form table. Lets be positive. He could be the right man finally... Because they should have their principles and stick to them especially when they were working. You're being overly harsh. And I know you know it. Give the man a chance. Be positive. Or else tell me who you'd replace him with that would instantly make us better, ffp compliant response please........😉
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May 6, 2024 22:01:25 GMT
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Post by bayernoatcake on May 6, 2024 22:01:25 GMT
Because they should have their principles and stick to them especially when they were working. You're being overly harsh. And I know you know it. Give the man a chance. Be positive. Or else tell me who you'd replace him with that would instantly make us better, ffp compliant response please........😉 I’m not. When he signed I said the one thing I want him to do is to stick with what he believes and he failed that within 6 weeks. No one will do that until the Coates’ fuck off.
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May 6, 2024 22:03:10 GMT
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Post by LphPotter on May 6, 2024 22:03:10 GMT
If you class Gooch as a full back then yes, I’m not really sure what he is to be honest. But that is not the point, we played him there but his role was the same as Junho, Vidigal or Haks. Hence it was the same system, different personnel does not necessarily mean a different system. We should have played a different system but we didn’t I would class Gooch who is a right back a full back yes. And playing him on the wing is defensive as fuck. Gooch has played way more games as a winger than a full back throughout his career. Even if he is a full back, playing him there is only defensive if he’s told to double up on their winger and barely attack but it was the exact opposite. He never got back to even try to defend.
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May 6, 2024 22:03:41 GMT
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Post by bayernoatcake on May 6, 2024 22:03:41 GMT
I would class Gooch who is a right back a full back yes. And playing him on the wing is defensive as fuck. Gooch has played way more games as a winger than a full back through out his career. Even if he is a full back, playing him there is only defensive if he’s told to double up on their winger and barely attack but it was the exact opposite. He never got back to even try to defend. It was defensive and it was cowardly.
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May 6, 2024 22:04:02 GMT
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Post by mickeythemaestro on May 6, 2024 22:04:02 GMT
You're being overly harsh. And I know you know it. Give the man a chance. Be positive. Or else tell me who you'd replace him with that would instantly make us better, ffp compliant response please........😉 I’m not. When he signed I said the one thing I want him to do is to stick with what he believes and he failed that within 6 weeks. No one will do that until the Coates’ fuck off. Right, so it appears you believe managers get 6 weeks to prove themselves. Pointless discussion in that case. Your club is going bust chief...
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Post by cheekymatt71 on May 6, 2024 22:08:49 GMT
This is how I see our Bayern/cartman/oatcake resident
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May 6, 2024 22:09:32 GMT
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Post by LphPotter on May 6, 2024 22:09:32 GMT
Gooch has played way more games as a winger than a full back through out his career. Even if he is a full back, playing him there is only defensive if he’s told to double up on their winger and barely attack but it was the exact opposite. He never got back to even try to defend. It was defensive and it was cowardly. You thought it was 3 at the back earlier today as well so not sure your judgement is spot on.
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May 6, 2024 22:10:10 GMT
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Post by bayernoatcake on May 6, 2024 22:10:10 GMT
I’m not. When he signed I said the one thing I want him to do is to stick with what he believes and he failed that within 6 weeks. No one will do that until the Coates’ fuck off. Right, so it appears you believe managers get 6 weeks to prove themselves. Pointless discussion in that case. Your club is going bust chief... No he literally did the only thing I didn’t want him to do in that time and it’s a pretty fucking big thing. And why is it? We can do better.
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Post by Glory Hunter on May 6, 2024 22:12:41 GMT
But it's not though. We've ended up finishing the league very strongly whilst Schumacher sorted out the last idiots total mess. Which was always going to take someone a while to do. The truth is you're a doom monger and simply want to keep spouting negative shyte. But that's okay it takes all sorts and doesn't make you any less of a fan at all. You have a negative mindset inbuilt. Schumacher will teach you a new way 😃 😉 He changed us immediately and we were playing much better from the get go then he for no reason shit his pants and went away from his philosophy. I can’t respect that. I’m not a doom monger 🤣we’ve been shit for nearly a decade and failed to finish in the top half of a shit league for 6 fucking seasons. It’s gas lighting horsespunk to suggest it’s anything bar worried about something you love and sick to fucking death of watching utter fucking shite. Calm down BO, take a chill pill. We are on the way back. I’m excited already for the new season and if Schuey has cracked the home form dilemma we are more than half way there 😄
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May 6, 2024 22:13:34 GMT
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Post by bayernoatcake on May 6, 2024 22:13:34 GMT
He changed us immediately and we were playing much better from the get go then he for no reason shit his pants and went away from his philosophy. I can’t respect that. I’m not a doom monger 🤣we’ve been shit for nearly a decade and failed to finish in the top half of a shit league for 6 fucking seasons. It’s gas lighting horsespunk to suggest it’s anything bar worried about something you love and sick to fucking death of watching utter fucking shite. Calm down BO, take a chill pill. We are on the way back. I’m excited already for the new season and if Schuey has cracked the home form dilemma we are more than half way there 😄 I hope you’re right and the last 3 home games have been good. I just don’t have faith he will stick with it once he hits the first bump.
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May 6, 2024 22:15:54 GMT
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Post by mickeythemaestro on May 6, 2024 22:15:54 GMT
Right, so it appears you believe managers get 6 weeks to prove themselves. Pointless discussion in that case. Your club is going bust chief... No he literally did the only thing I didn’t want him to do in that time and it’s a pretty fucking big thing. And why is it? We can do better. 6 weeks is a ridiculous timescale to sack managers. You'd be paying dozens of managers and bankrupting yourself. Shock horror football manager makes a couple of bad calls. Nearly 10 years of shit you said and you're only giving em 6 weeks to prove themselves 😆 🤣 We're on the up. Enjoy it 👍
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Post by Pugsley on May 6, 2024 22:35:44 GMT
The level of utter shit posted on this thread is mind blowing.
I really ‘can’t be arsed’ with it.
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