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Post by crouchpotato1 on Jul 13, 2024 15:52:18 GMT
Tom Edwards signed for Salford. Probably found his level
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Post by baconburger on Jul 13, 2024 15:56:22 GMT
He'd be a cracking creative foil for a goalscorer in a 442 or 352 He's just not going to get in the box enough to score enough goals if playing any formation with just one down the middle To be fair this is the case for vast majority of strikers everywhere, they need to play in a pair I said it a lot last season when Mmaee was getting pelters. We really need a goalscorer (or two) out wide if we're playing one up front in this system. Blackburn have done it really well with Armstrong and Brereton recently, and done well with Szmodics as a goalscoring '10' if you like. Schumacher himself did it well with Whittaker at Plymouth. As you say, very rarely do you get a one up front striker that hits goals for fun at this level. All very well but we've already got one player who almost everyone wants to persevere with in Junho in the front line who's output isn't very good at all atm. If you perm that with a CF who doesn't produce much output you are really going to struggle with your goals for column who's meant to pick up all the slack?
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Post by march4 on Jul 13, 2024 16:04:15 GMT
I would prefer 1. New 2. New 3. Tezgel 4. Ennis Wouldn't be against it, but I just don't see us selling either Mmaee or Ennis. I could see us making 1 big signing to be the number 1 and then a loan coming in who can play wide or centrally. That’s exactly what I think. We will sign a striker of our own and then loan a second striker.
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Post by lordb on Jul 13, 2024 16:04:23 GMT
I said it a lot last season when Mmaee was getting pelters. We really need a goalscorer (or two) out wide if we're playing one up front in this system. Blackburn have done it really well with Armstrong and Brereton recently, and done well with Szmodics as a goalscoring '10' if you like. Schumacher himself did it well with Whittaker at Plymouth. As you say, very rarely do you get a one up front striker that hits goals for fun at this level. All very well but we've already got one player who almost everyone wants to persevere with in Junho in the front line who's output isn't very good at all atm. If you perm that with a CF who doesn't produce much output you are really going to struggle with your goals for column who's meant to pick up all the slack? For the umpteenth time : Bae goal and assist stats are low because for too much of the season he was playing too close to the half way line (because the whole side was) Once the side got to attack more, as we saw in the last portion of the season) he got closer to the box Fully expecting Bae and Manhoef to score minimum 15 league goals between them and quite possibly 20
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Post by george2again on Jul 13, 2024 16:06:11 GMT
I said it a lot last season when Mmaee was getting pelters. We really need a goalscorer (or two) out wide if we're playing one up front in this system. Blackburn have done it really well with Armstrong and Brereton recently, and done well with Szmodics as a goalscoring '10' if you like. Schumacher himself did it well with Whittaker at Plymouth. As you say, very rarely do you get a one up front striker that hits goals for fun. If Mmaee does play as we saw in his last game v Albion he can play in Bae, Manhoef and Cundle running through (or Baker if the Chester game is any evidence) really well He's a good player He’s slow and lazy don’t be seduced by the odd nice flick. Opinions of course, I want shot asap.
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Post by baconburger on Jul 13, 2024 16:07:20 GMT
I said it a lot last season when Mmaee was getting pelters. We really need a goalscorer (or two) out wide if we're playing one up front in this system. Blackburn have done it really well with Armstrong and Brereton recently, and done well with Szmodics as a goalscoring '10' if you like. Schumacher himself did it well with Whittaker at Plymouth. As you say, very rarely do you get a one up front striker that hits goals for fun. If Mmaee does play as we saw in his last game v Albion he can play in Bae, Manhoef and Cundle running through (or Baker if the Chester game is any evidence) really well He's a good player I just don't see how you can have Junho and Mmaee in the same front 3 and expect a reasonable goals scored outcome.
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Post by Edward Tattsyrup on Jul 13, 2024 16:09:21 GMT
Wouldn't be against it, but I just don't see us selling either Mmaee or Ennis. I could see us making 1 big signing to be the number 1 and then a loan coming in who can play wide or centrally. That’s exactly what I think. We will sign a striker of our own and then loan a second striker. [/quot Yep, and they probably won't happen till later in the window.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 13, 2024 16:10:21 GMT
If Mmaee does play as we saw in his last game v Albion he can play in Bae, Manhoef and Cundle running through (or Baker if the Chester game is any evidence) really well He's a good player He’s slow and lazy don’t be seduced by the odd nice flick. Opinions of course, I want shot asap. Harsh. Could you just not settle for a transfer out of the club instead?
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Post by lordb on Jul 13, 2024 16:14:29 GMT
If Mmaee does play as we saw in his last game v Albion he can play in Bae, Manhoef and Cundle running through (or Baker if the Chester game is any evidence) really well He's a good player I just don't see how you can have Junho and Mmaee in the same front 3 and expect a reasonable goals scored outcome. Junho and Manhoef I don't want Mmaee in the team really because he won't score enough but if he does play he will make goals for others We really need a quality goalscorer but so does everyone, don't see is getting one tbh
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Post by baconburger on Jul 13, 2024 16:18:41 GMT
All very well but we've already got one player who almost everyone wants to persevere with in Junho in the front line who's output isn't very good at all atm. If you perm that with a CF who doesn't produce much output you are really going to struggle with your goals for column who's meant to pick up all the slack? For the umpteenth time : Bae goal and assist stats are low because for too much of the season he was playing too close to the half way line (because the whole side was) Once the side got to attack more, as we saw in the last portion of the season) he got closer to the box Fully expecting Bae and Manhoef to score minimum 15 league goals between them and quite possibly 20 Is that meant to be reassuring? Permed with a low scoring CF that will leave us in a similar position as last season. Scoring about a goal a game when games in the league were producing around about 3 goals per game on average. Junho despite his good play is very short on end product from positions in which he has possession 1 goal involvement per 5 appearances. Manhoef better at 1 goal involvement per 3 games but that's nothing like prolific enough to carry our attack. Mmaee 1 goal involvement per 4 games. If that's our front three get ready for groundhog day.
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Post by baconburger on Jul 13, 2024 16:21:40 GMT
I just don't see how you can have Junho and Mmaee in the same front 3 and expect a reasonable goals scored outcome. Junho and Manhoef I don't want Mmaee in the team really because he won't score enough but if he does play he will make goals for others We really need a quality goalscorer but so does everyone, don't see is getting one tbh Last seasons goals for column tells you we need one far more desperately than many of our peers.
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Post by wagsastokie on Jul 13, 2024 16:26:33 GMT
Tom Edwards signed for Salford. Probably found his level Just about the plastic manc’s
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Post by lordb on Jul 13, 2024 16:28:03 GMT
Junho and Manhoef I don't want Mmaee in the team really because he won't score enough but if he does play he will make goals for others We really need a quality goalscorer but so does everyone, don't see is getting one tbh Last seasons goals for column tells you we need one far more desperately than many of our peers. Yes but I think we will score more, much more, than last season (probably concede more too) than last season despite lack of killer striker Reasonably entertaining top half beckons! 😎
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Post by Clayton Wood on Jul 13, 2024 16:42:03 GMT
Last seasons goals for column tells you we need one far more desperately than many of our peers. Yes but I think we will score more, much more, than last season (probably concede more too) than last season despite lack of killer striker Reasonably entertaining top half beckons! 😎 Dunno why but I've got a feeling in my water that Viking Viktor is going to make a big difference in the goals against column. Not only shot stopping but organisation too.
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Post by baconburger on Jul 13, 2024 16:46:50 GMT
Last seasons goals for column tells you we need one far more desperately than many of our peers. Yes but I think we will score more, much more, than last season (probably concede more too) than last season despite lack of killer striker Reasonably entertaining top half beckons! 😎 You might think we will but it doesn't seem to be based in any sort of logic. As we stand we're down 3 players who provided much of the output in our closing games (Hoever, Cundle, Campbell) and that is from a position where our attacking output was completely unsatisfactory over any sustained period. I don't know whether you're trying to talk down expectations in terms of players coming in but I'm glad Schu is clear we need much more in the final third.
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Post by baconburger on Jul 13, 2024 16:47:54 GMT
Yes but I think we will score more, much more, than last season (probably concede more too) than last season despite lack of killer striker Reasonably entertaining top half beckons! 😎 Dunno why but I've got a feeling in my water that Viking Viktor is going to make a big difference in the goals against column. Not only shot stopping but organisation too. So you think we're going to mitigate being a low scoring team. How exciting!
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Post by skemstokie on Jul 13, 2024 16:50:52 GMT
Last seasons goals for column tells you we need one far more desperately than many of our peers. Yes but I think we will score more, much more, than last season (probably concede more too) than last season despite lack of killer striker Reasonably entertaining top half beckons! 😎 I agree,last year a large proportion of the team had to adjust to a new country new team and also a new language so i expect more cohesion and understanding next season.
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Post by foxysgloves on Jul 13, 2024 16:52:04 GMT
Dunno why but I've got a feeling in my water that Viking Viktor is going to make a big difference in the goals against column. Not only shot stopping but organisation too. So you think we're going to mitigate being a low scoring team. How exciting! No I think he means we will concede less goals.
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Post by baconburger on Jul 13, 2024 16:55:36 GMT
So you think we're going to mitigate being a low scoring team. How exciting! No I think he means we will concede less goals. We already conceded a very similar number of goals to half of last seasons top 6. Any idea that significant progress will be achieved without scoring a lot more goals is barmy.
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Post by foxysgloves on Jul 13, 2024 16:57:20 GMT
No I think he means we will concede less goals. We already conceded a very similar number of goals to half of last seasons top 6. Any idea that significant progress will be achieved without scoring a lot more goals is barmy. He didn’t say that though. He said we’d have a better defence. I’m assuming it goes without saying that we all know we need to score more. A better defence surely improves our chances of success though.
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Post by yellowsnowman on Jul 13, 2024 17:05:07 GMT
We already conceded a very similar number of goals to half of last seasons top 6. Any idea that significant progress will be achieved without scoring a lot more goals is barmy. He didn’t say that though. He said we’d have a better defence. I’m assuming it goes without saying that we all know we need to score more. A better defence surely improves our chances of success though. Our promotion season, our defense was brilliant. Chipped in with goals also, aswell as CFs and Wingers.
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Post by Clayton Wood on Jul 13, 2024 17:31:12 GMT
We already conceded a very similar number of goals to half of last seasons top 6. Any idea that significant progress will be achieved without scoring a lot more goals is barmy. He didn’t say that though. He said we’d have a better defence. I’m assuming it goes without saying that we all know we need to score more. A better defence surely improves our chances of success though. Thank you. Iversen for whatever reason did not fill me with confidence, said so on here. Bonham weren't great but stood up and was counted when called on. From what I saw of big Vik last season, in a relegation team, he should upgrade us at the back. With the other end of the park starting to perform at the end of last season, in theory, it bodes well.
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Post by baconburger on Jul 13, 2024 17:41:19 GMT
We already conceded a very similar number of goals to half of last seasons top 6. Any idea that significant progress will be achieved without scoring a lot more goals is barmy. He didn’t say that though. He said we’d have a better defence. I’m assuming it goes without saying that we all know we need to score more. A better defence surely improves our chances of success though. A better anything is always good but our defensive performance of last season didn't preclude us from having a good season our attacking performances very much did. We've lost output from last season I'm confident that we will make signings to try to address that not as lordb was suggesting trust to a young player who was not starting or scoring regularly in league two. I feel sure the signings in the attacking third will come if they didn't that would be negligent IMO. I'm not sure they'll be successful but not making them because we don't like the richness of the market would be unforgiveable.
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Post by baconburger on Jul 13, 2024 17:43:42 GMT
He didn’t say that though. He said we’d have a better defence. I’m assuming it goes without saying that we all know we need to score more. A better defence surely improves our chances of success though. Thank you. Iversen for whatever reason did not fill me with confidence, said so on here. Bonham weren't great but stood up and was counted when called on. From what I saw of big Vik last season, in a relegation team, he should upgrade us at the back. With the other end of the park starting to perform at the end of last season, in theory, it bodes well. Despite the fact that three players (Hoever, Cundle and Campbell) were major contributors to the performances at the other end improving not being here any longer and not being replaced ??
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Post by Clayton Wood on Jul 13, 2024 17:47:45 GMT
Thank you. Iversen for whatever reason did not fill me with confidence, said so on here. Bonham weren't great but stood up and was counted when called on. From what I saw of big Vik last season, in a relegation team, he should upgrade us at the back. With the other end of the park starting to perform at the end of last season, in theory, it bodes well. Despite the fact that three players (Hoever, Cundle and Campbell) were major contributors to the performances at the other end improving not being here any longer and not being replaced ?? Must have missed the window 'slamming shut'.
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Post by baconburger on Jul 13, 2024 17:50:52 GMT
Despite the fact that three players (Hoever, Cundle and Campbell) were major contributors to the performances at the other end improving not being here any longer and not being replaced ?? Must have missed the window 'slamming shut'. You also must have missed reading the rest of the thread. EDIT: Page even.
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Post by liathroid on Jul 13, 2024 17:52:17 GMT
Tom Edwards signed for Salford.
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Post by xchpotter on Jul 13, 2024 17:57:41 GMT
Tom Edwards signed for Salford. For a split second at the end of that I thought we’d changed our club crest 😂
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Post by terrorofturfmoor on Jul 13, 2024 18:02:53 GMT
Hope you're wrong with a Tezgel loan.... I'm beginning to think now's the time to take your chance!!! I'll be missed off if tezgel goes on loan. He needs to be starting for us! Certainly needs to be in and around the first team now!!!
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Post by yellowsnowman on Jul 13, 2024 18:04:46 GMT
I'll be missed off if tezgel goes on loan. He needs to be starting for us! Certainly needs to be in and around the first team now!!! Yup defo.
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