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Burger
Aug 18, 2024 7:51:47 GMT
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Post by wakeypotter on Aug 18, 2024 7:51:47 GMT
Here’s hoping when lawals in the team he will add physicality and then with either burger or Laurent then bae or Moran as am. I’m just hoping lawal has been bought for midfield not centre half I don’t think he is at all. I wish he was. I think he’ll continue to try to hammer deep lying midfielders into advanced roles. We could do with 2 lawals one at centre half and one in midfield. Having said that I am going on his stature and his reputation as I’ve never seen him play
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Post by baconburger on Aug 18, 2024 8:00:55 GMT
I don’t think he is at all. I wish he was. I think he’ll continue to try to hammer deep lying midfielders into advanced roles. We could do with 2 lawals one at centre half and one in midfield. Having said that I am going on his stature and his reputation as I’ve never seen him play I think the CB’s have been absolutely fine so far this season.
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Post by wakeypotter on Aug 18, 2024 9:17:33 GMT
We could do with 2 lawals one at centre half and one in midfield. Having said that I am going on his stature and his reputation as I’ve never seen him play I think the CB’s have been absolutely fine so far this season. I’m not saying they haven’t but if you think we can go through a season with only Gibson , Wilmot and the injured rose you are wrong
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Post by Chewbacca the Wookie on Aug 18, 2024 9:20:25 GMT
I think the CB’s have been absolutely fine so far this season. I’m not saying they haven’t but if you think we can go through a season with only Gibson , Wilmot and the injured rose you are wrong This. Defo need one more in.
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Burger
Aug 18, 2024 9:25:57 GMT
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Post by bunnyscfc on Aug 18, 2024 9:25:57 GMT
We played better without him last season. The most overrated player I've seen here in years and there was zero interest in him this summer.
Too often beige, and is he actually fit enough for this league?
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Burger
Aug 18, 2024 9:35:35 GMT
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Post by idle on Aug 18, 2024 9:35:35 GMT
We played better without him last season. The most overrated player I've seen here in years and there was zero interest in him this summer. Too often beige, and is he actually fit enough for this league? Pay attention then. Spurs was linked for £8(?)M I think your analysis is way off. He doesn't fit Schueys system, at least not as an AM, but he should get the nod at DM, at least against the bottom half teams in the league. For the 8 (B2B) role he's ahead of both Laurent and Baker IMO.
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Post by mickstupp on Aug 18, 2024 9:37:01 GMT
We played better without him last season. The most overrated player I've seen here in years and there was zero interest in him this summer. Too often beige, and is he actually fit enough for this league? Pay attention then. Spurs was linked for £8(?)M I think your analysis is way off. He doesn't fit Schueys system, at least not as an AM, but he should get the nod at DM, at least against the bottom half teams in the league. For the 8 (B2B) role he's ahead of both Laurent and Baker IMO. I’d be astonished if Spurs were genuinely interested in him.
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Post by scfcno1fan on Aug 18, 2024 9:37:43 GMT
Pay attention then. Spurs was linked for £8(?)M I think your analysis is way off. He doesn't fit Schueys system, at least not as an AM, but he should get the nod at DM, at least against the bottom half teams in the league. For the 8 (B2B) role he's ahead of both Laurent and Baker IMO. I’d be astonished if Spurs were genuinely interested in him. Exactly. No chance.
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Burger
Aug 18, 2024 10:24:44 GMT
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Post by shakermaker on Aug 18, 2024 10:24:44 GMT
yep fair point that, seems to be a few who are more suited to that role, is Pearson still about (can’t say as I’ve followed much of the ins and outs this summer) We have Thompson, Burger, Laurent. Lawal, Pearson, Sidibe who are all more suited to deep lying midfield roles and a rumoured to be signing another in some Japanese fella. Seems a bit mad when the HC wants to play a 1:2 midfield. Lawal is primarily a box-to-box midfielder, and he can do that both from deep and as an 8. Given we already have Burger who we know is better as the 6, then if Schuey wants to maintain the 1:2 midfield setup we either go: Burger, Lawal, Bae (which means we need to bring in a left winger/attacking forward pronto), or Burger, Lawal, Moran - keeping Bae at LW where he shone towards the latter part of last season, and hope Moran can replicate Cundle’s hot streak from that latter season period too.
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Burger
Aug 18, 2024 10:31:27 GMT
Post by johnnysoul60 on Aug 18, 2024 10:31:27 GMT
We played better without him last season. The most overrated player I've seen here in years and there was zero interest in him this summer. Too often beige, and is he actually fit enough for this league? Pay attention then. Spurs was linked for £8(?)M I think your analysis is way off. He doesn't fit Schueys system, at least not as an AM, but he should get the nod at DM, at least against the bottom half teams in the league. For the 8 (B2B) role he's ahead of both Laurent and Baker IMO. If they had offered that for him the Chopper would have been mobilised , he had some good games last season and you can see he has qualities but they diminished as the the managers changed and in our good spell at the end of the season he didnt feature in starting line up, I dont think he fits how Schumacher wants to play , neither do Johnson or Baker and probably Pearson which is why we are linked to so many midfielders. Even Laurent is one I think he would be happy to see leave his type of midfielder move the ball quickly which is why he likes Cundle and how Moran looked when he came on yesterday
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Burger
Aug 18, 2024 10:34:42 GMT
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Post by bunnyscfc on Aug 18, 2024 10:34:42 GMT
We played better without him last season. The most overrated player I've seen here in years and there was zero interest in him this summer. Too often beige, and is he actually fit enough for this league? Pay attention then. Spurs was linked for £8(?)M I think your analysis is way off. He doesn't fit Schueys system, at least not as an AM, but he should get the nod at DM, at least against the bottom half teams in the league. For the 8 (B2B) role he's ahead of both Laurent and Baker IMO. I'll pay attention to those who actually KNOW that there was zero interest in him, ta.
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Burger
Aug 18, 2024 10:36:20 GMT
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Post by wagsastokie on Aug 18, 2024 10:36:20 GMT
We played better without him last season. The most overrated player I've seen here in years and there was zero interest in him this summer. Too often beige, and is he actually fit enough for this league? Pay attention then. Spurs was linked for £8(?)M I think your analysis is way off. He doesn't fit Schueys system, at least not as an AM, but he should get the nod at DM, at least against the bottom half teams in the league. For the 8 (B2B) role he's ahead of both Laurent and Baker IMO. He’d be truly shit if he was behind them
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Burger
Aug 18, 2024 10:51:34 GMT
Post by baconburger on Aug 18, 2024 10:51:34 GMT
We have Thompson, Burger, Laurent. Lawal, Pearson, Sidibe who are all more suited to deep lying midfield roles and a rumoured to be signing another in some Japanese fella. Seems a bit mad when the HC wants to play a 1:2 midfield. Lawal is primarily a box-to-box midfielder, and he can do that both from deep and as an 8. Given we already have Burger who we know is better as the 6, then if Schuey wants to maintain the 1:2 midfield setup we either go: Burger, Lawal, Bae (which means we need to bring in a left winger/attacking forward pronto), or Burger, Lawal, Moran - keeping Bae at LW where he shone towards the latter part of last season, and hope Moran can replicate Cundle’s hot streak from that latter season period too. We already have an alternative for Junho wide left forward Koumas. He won't have been loaned to us to sit on the bench most of the season.
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Burger
Aug 18, 2024 10:52:59 GMT
Post by Gods on Aug 18, 2024 10:52:59 GMT
Pay attention then. Spurs was linked for £8(?)M I think your analysis is way off. He doesn't fit Schueys system, at least not as an AM, but he should get the nod at DM, at least against the bottom half teams in the league. For the 8 (B2B) role he's ahead of both Laurent and Baker IMO. I’d be astonished if Spurs were genuinely interested in him. Not a snowballs chance in hell Spurs are interested in him!
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Burger
Aug 18, 2024 10:55:58 GMT
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Post by shakermaker on Aug 18, 2024 10:55:58 GMT
Lawal is primarily a box-to-box midfielder, and he can do that both from deep and as an 8. Given we already have Burger who we know is better as the 6, then if Schuey wants to maintain the 1:2 midfield setup we either go: Burger, Lawal, Bae (which means we need to bring in a left winger/attacking forward pronto), or Burger, Lawal, Moran - keeping Bae at LW where he shone towards the latter part of last season, and hope Moran can replicate Cundle’s hot streak from that latter season period too. We already have an alternative for Junho wide left forward Koumas. He won't have been loaned to us to sit on the bench most of the season. Very true. Option 1 it is then. I’m sure we’d have seen a different side yesterday had that midfield three started.
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Post by mickstupp on Aug 18, 2024 10:56:20 GMT
I’d be astonished if Spurs were genuinely interested in him. Not a snowballs chance in hell Spurs are interested in him! Safe to say if they were, he’d be long gone.
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Burger
Aug 18, 2024 10:58:42 GMT
Post by baconburger on Aug 18, 2024 10:58:42 GMT
We already have an alternative for Junho wide left forward Koumas. He won't have been loaned to us to sit on the bench most of the season. Very true. Option 1 it is then. I’m sure we’d have seen a different side yesterday had that midfield three started. I've only seen clips of him but Lawal would probably have made a massive difference yesterday used correctly ie deep lying.
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Post by OldStokie on Aug 18, 2024 11:15:05 GMT
It's baffling why Burger has lost his form after being one of our top two players for quite a while. With the new arrivals he wouldn't be in my side now.
OS.
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Burger
Aug 18, 2024 11:42:50 GMT
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Post by idle on Aug 18, 2024 11:42:50 GMT
Pay attention then. Spurs was linked for £8(?)M I think your analysis is way off. He doesn't fit Schueys system, at least not as an AM, but he should get the nod at DM, at least against the bottom half teams in the league. For the 8 (B2B) role he's ahead of both Laurent and Baker IMO. I'll pay attention to those who actually KNOW that there was zero interest in him, ta. Ah, an ITKer 😂
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Post by bunnyscfc on Aug 18, 2024 12:51:15 GMT
I'll pay attention to those who actually KNOW that there was zero interest in him, ta. Ah, an ITKer 😂 I'm not and don't wish to be. The person who told me very much is.
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Post by emretezzy on Aug 18, 2024 13:37:42 GMT
It's baffling why Burger has lost his form after being one of our top two players for quite a while. With the new arrivals he wouldn't be in my side now. OS. Head turned I'd say.
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Post by greenhoff on Aug 18, 2024 13:50:06 GMT
With the money we invested in him it would be nice if he was fit enough to actually finish a game. He’s the epitome of mediocre
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Burger
Aug 18, 2024 13:57:15 GMT
Post by nottsover60 on Aug 18, 2024 13:57:15 GMT
I think the CB’s have been absolutely fine so far this season. I’m not saying they haven’t but if you think we can go through a season with only Gibson , Wilmot and the injured rose you are wrong Lawal can provide cover if needed, we have Thompson and Pearson to cover CM.
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Post by roylandstoke on Aug 18, 2024 14:20:51 GMT
We played better without him last season. The most overrated player I've seen here in years and there was zero interest in him this summer. Too often beige, and is he actually fit enough for this league? Pay attention then. Spurs was linked for £8(?)M I think your analysis is way off. He doesn't fit Schueys system, at least not as an AM, but he should get the nod at DM, at least against the bottom half teams in the league. For the 8 (B2B) role he's ahead of both Laurent and Baker IMO. I like Burger. I think he could do a decent job for us if the manager can tie him to a more clearly defined role that adds some positional discipline to his running. That said, I suspect Spurs £8M interest was more in keeping with Newcastle's £20M interest in Tyrese Campbell, than any concrete offers.
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Burger
Aug 18, 2024 15:40:56 GMT
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Post by wakeypotter on Aug 18, 2024 15:40:56 GMT
I’m not saying they haven’t but if you think we can go through a season with only Gibson , Wilmot and the injured rose you are wrong Lawal can provide cover if needed, we have Thompson and Pearson to cover CM. We don’t have Pearson for another few months and while I think Thompson is a good squad player I don’t think he is good enough for us to aim high.
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Aug 18, 2024 16:23:45 GMT
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Post by idle on Aug 18, 2024 16:23:45 GMT
I'm not and don't wish to be. The person who told me very much is. So he's in the Spurs transfer team? Interest doesn't mean an official bid or even contact between the clubs. Burger being 5th in a list of possible midfielders counts. Plus, when a (semi-)respected footie site reports it, there's sometuing there. It's not some noname twitter loser rumour, is it.
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Post by nottsover60 on Aug 18, 2024 17:40:25 GMT
Lawal can provide cover if needed, we have Thompson and Pearson to cover CM. We don’t have Pearson for another few months and while I think Thompson is a good squad player I don’t think he is good enough for us to aim high. In an ideal world but the harsh reality is that the more we spend on defenders the less we will have for strikers. Thompson has in general been more than fine as our defensive midfield player so is good enough to be our cover. My feeling is that the more we spend on strikers both their fee and wages the better. If we get a couple of strikers who scores 1 goal every two or three matches it takes the pressure off the defence to keep clean sheets.
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Burger
Aug 18, 2024 18:37:14 GMT
Post by 1948fitch on Aug 18, 2024 18:37:14 GMT
Was MOTM, but we gave him so much space. yeah he had a lot of space but i suppose that’s the mark of an intelligent midfielder to find a bit of space and keep the ball moving yeah I thought he made the space and made the passes
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Burger
Aug 18, 2024 19:36:03 GMT
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Post by boskampsflaps on Aug 18, 2024 19:36:03 GMT
I’m not saying they haven’t but if you think we can go through a season with only Gibson , Wilmot and the injured rose you are wrong Lawal can provide cover if needed, we have Thompson and Pearson to cover CM. So you'd have to mess with/weaken your midfield if CB cover was ever needed, not ideal when you could bring in cover as well as competition by just bringing another CB in.
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Burger
Aug 18, 2024 19:43:53 GMT
Post by nottsover60 on Aug 18, 2024 19:43:53 GMT
Lawal can provide cover if needed, we have Thompson and Pearson to cover CM. So you'd have to mess with/weaken your midfield if CB cover was ever needed, not ideal when you could bring in cover as well as competition by just bringing another CB in. Do we know for certain that he will claim the DM role? Perhaps we are buying him for cover of and competition for both defence and midfield especially with the Japanese player as good as signed alledgedly. Players will have to prove they deserve to be picked. As I say we need to spend as much as possible on two strikers.
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