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Post by LGH87 on Jul 18, 2024 15:22:31 GMT
I will sound fairly unpopular and justifiably so just for being here but I did wonder when reading the line by Witcoop about needing to sell. The only two scenarios I can think of are.. 1) You have too many in midfield and want to trim it down. 2) There is that obscure FFP rule that I mentioned albeit the next 2 years Forecast. Whether Stoke are one Idk but I expect a few clubs could be. I think Hull definitely have been one. Loss between £15m and the Upper Loss limit ie 2 Years actual and 1 Year Forecast. I think we were under something similar a couple of years back but the EFL as of 2022 as voted in by the clubs unanimously can look at a forward looking intervention or Monitoring to try and keep a club on the straight and narrow. On that Point 2, the Football Media do not cover it well for some reason. It is in some ways ground-breaking to be looking at Future Forecast Numbers 2 years ahead of time. The premise is that a club are Forecasting an overspend in the period ending 2024-25 or 2025-26 and the forecast goes in 31st March at the latest of the existing Season. Or if in the Reasonable Opinion of the League a Club are set to fail the next year or 2 years hence albeit that is open to challenge by a Club. The squad is large both the HC & TD have both said we want a squad of 22 + youth players. As it stands we probably have room for a Striker & a centre half at a push. |
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Post by bristolcityinpeace on Jul 18, 2024 16:00:42 GMT
I will sound fairly unpopular and justifiably so just for being here but I did wonder when reading the line by Witcoop about needing to sell. The only two scenarios I can think of are.. 1) You have too many in midfield and want to trim it down. 2) There is that obscure FFP rule that I mentioned albeit the next 2 years Forecast. Whether Stoke are one Idk but I expect a few clubs could be. I think Hull definitely have been one. Loss between £15m and the Upper Loss limit ie 2 Years actual and 1 Year Forecast. I think we were under something similar a couple of years back but the EFL as of 2022 as voted in by the clubs unanimously can look at a forward looking intervention or Monitoring to try and keep a club on the straight and narrow. On that Point 2, the Football Media do not cover it well for some reason. It is in some ways ground-breaking to be looking at Future Forecast Numbers 2 years ahead of time. The premise is that a club are Forecasting an overspend in the period ending 2024-25 or 2025-26 and the forecast goes in 31st March at the latest of the existing Season. Or if in the Reasonable Opinion of the League a Club are set to fail the next year or 2 years hence albeit that is open to challenge by a Club. The squad is large both the HC & TD have both said we want a squad of 22 + youth players. As it stands we probably have room for a Striker & a centre half at a push. You totally dismiss the idea that the Rule could be catching a few clubs then? I am open minded on it but the Sinclair Armstrong thing did make me wonder based on Witcoop. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 18, 2024 16:04:54 GMT
The squad is large both the HC & TD have both said we want a squad of 22 + youth players. As it stands we probably have room for a Striker & a centre half at a push. You totally dismiss the idea that the Rule could be catching a few clubs then? I am open minded on it but the Sinclair Armstrong thing did make me wonder based on Witcoop. The local press downplayed the need for a sale pretty soon after that article and focussed more on a desire to drive down the squad size. Your obsession with seeing us or wanting to see us sanctioned is utterly bizarre. If we got sanctioned tomorrow and got a big enough points deduction to see us into League One, you'd still wake up as a Bristol City fan and you'd still support a club that achieved absolutely nothing, and will achieve absolutely nothing. |
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Post by bristolcityinpeace on Jul 18, 2024 16:14:48 GMT
You totally dismiss the idea that the Rule could be catching a few clubs then? I am open minded on it but the Sinclair Armstrong thing did make me wonder based on Witcoop. The local press downplayed the need for a sale pretty soon after that article and focussed more on a desire to drive down the squad size. Your obsession with seeing us or wanting to see us sanctioned is utterly bizarre. If we got sanctioned tomorrow and got a big enough points deduction to see us into League One, you'd still wake up as a Bristol City fan and you'd still support a club that achieved absolutely nothing, and will achieve absolutely nothing. We tick a number of boxes for play-off challenging tbh. Income is 6th or 7th highest in the division, enough to build on a solid midtable base. In respect of Rules I think a few clubs could he under a bit of monitoring at least and it is plausible Stoke could have a potential +2 year overspend risk but a deduction if one arose probably would have minimal impact anyway. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 18, 2024 16:18:23 GMT
The local press downplayed the need for a sale pretty soon after that article and focussed more on a desire to drive down the squad size. Your obsession with seeing us or wanting to see us sanctioned is utterly bizarre. If we got sanctioned tomorrow and got a big enough points deduction to see us into League One, you'd still wake up as a Bristol City fan and you'd still support a club that achieved absolutely nothing, and will achieve absolutely nothing. We tick a number of boxes for play-off challenging tbh. Income is 6th or 7th highest in the division, enough to build on a solid midtable base. In respect of Rules I think a few clubs could he under a bit of monitoring at least and it is plausible Stoke could have a potential +2 year overspend risk but a deduction if one arose probably would have minimal impact anyway. I'll be honest, I'm not interested in fag packet maths. We have our own FFP expert who I can guarantee will know more than you ever will. I'll worry when he does. |
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Post by thornestein on Jul 18, 2024 16:19:57 GMT
The local press downplayed the need for a sale pretty soon after that article and focussed more on a desire to drive down the squad size. Your obsession with seeing us or wanting to see us sanctioned is utterly bizarre. If we got sanctioned tomorrow and got a big enough points deduction to see us into League One, you'd still wake up as a Bristol City fan and you'd still support a club that achieved absolutely nothing, and will achieve absolutely nothing. We tick a number of boxes for play-off challenging tbh. Income is 6th or 7th highest in the division, enough to build on a solid midtable base. In respect of Rules I think a few clubs could he under a bit of monitoring at least and it is plausible Stoke could have a potential +2 year overspend risk but a deduction if one arose probably would have minimal impact anyway. you need get a life , the rules are pathetic to start with , stops teams spending their money , money that will filter down through the division’s , thank god there getting rid |
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Post by mickeythemaestro on Jul 18, 2024 16:23:56 GMT
The local press downplayed the need for a sale pretty soon after that article and focussed more on a desire to drive down the squad size. Your obsession with seeing us or wanting to see us sanctioned is utterly bizarre. If we got sanctioned tomorrow and got a big enough points deduction to see us into League One, you'd still wake up as a Bristol City fan and you'd still support a club that achieved absolutely nothing, and will achieve absolutely nothing. We tick a number of boxes for play-off challenging tbh. Income is 6th or 7th highest in the division, enough to build on a solid midtable base. In respect of Rules I think a few clubs could he under a bit of monitoring at least and it is plausible Stoke could have a potential +2 year overspend risk but a deduction if one arose probably would have minimal impact anyway. We could buy you and donate your club to the Gas men across the city 😆 |
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Post by SuperRickyFuller on Jul 18, 2024 16:27:34 GMT
I will sound fairly unpopular and justifiably so just for being here but I did wonder when reading the line by Witcoop about needing to sell. The only two scenarios I can think of are.. 1) You have too many in midfield and want to trim it down. 2) There is that obscure FFP rule that I mentioned albeit the next 2 years Forecast. Whether Stoke are one Idk but I expect a few clubs could be. I think Hull definitely have been one. Loss between £15m and the Upper Loss limit ie 2 Years actual and 1 Year Forecast. I think we were under something similar a couple of years back but the EFL as of 2022 as voted in by the clubs unanimously can look at a forward looking intervention or Monitoring to try and keep a club on the straight and narrow. On that Point 2, the Football Media do not cover it well for some reason. It is in some ways ground-breaking to be looking at Future Forecast Numbers 2 years ahead of time. The premise is that a club are Forecasting an overspend in the period ending 2024-25 or 2025-26 and the forecast goes in 31st March at the latest of the existing Season. Or if in the Reasonable Opinion of the League a Club are set to fail the next year or 2 years hence albeit that is open to challenge by a Club. |
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Post by bristolcityinpeace on Jul 18, 2024 16:33:59 GMT
We tick a number of boxes for play-off challenging tbh. Income is 6th or 7th highest in the division, enough to build on a solid midtable base. In respect of Rules I think a few clubs could he under a bit of monitoring at least and it is plausible Stoke could have a potential +2 year overspend risk but a deduction if one arose probably would have minimal impact anyway. I'll be honest, I'm not interested in fag packet maths. We have our own FFP expert who I can guarantee will know more than you ever will. I'll worry when he does. You clearly don't grasp or don't want to grasp the point. A Forecast Breach 2 Years Hence can trigger something, at the very least Clubs are monitored on a continual basis. What do you know of the CFRP and CFRU? |
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Post by bristolcityinpeace on Jul 18, 2024 16:35:11 GMT
We tick a number of boxes for play-off challenging tbh. Income is 6th or 7th highest in the division, enough to build on a solid midtable base. In respect of Rules I think a few clubs could he under a bit of monitoring at least and it is plausible Stoke could have a potential +2 year overspend risk but a deduction if one arose probably would have minimal impact anyway. We could buy you and donate your club to the Gas men across the city 😆 Pfffft. A non-sequiter if ever one existed. |
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Jul 18, 2024 16:36:03 GMT
I'll be honest, I'm not interested in fag packet maths. We have our own FFP expert who I can guarantee will know more than you ever will. I'll worry when he does. You clearly don't grasp or don't want to grasp the point. A Forecast Breach 2 Years Hence can trigger something, at the very least Clubs are monitored on a continual basis. What do you know of the CFRP and CFRU? Youre not still flogging that dead horse are you🙄Give it a rest FFS |
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Post by bristolcityinpeace on Jul 18, 2024 16:37:43 GMT
We tick a number of boxes for play-off challenging tbh. Income is 6th or 7th highest in the division, enough to build on a solid midtable base. In respect of Rules I think a few clubs could he under a bit of monitoring at least and it is plausible Stoke could have a potential +2 year overspend risk but a deduction if one arose probably would have minimal impact anyway. you need get a life , the rules are pathetic to start with , stops teams spending their money , money that will filter down through the division’s , thank god there getting rid I probably do albeit the new proposals are for 70% of Turnover plus Profit on Players to be the limit for Football Player Wages, Manager and perhaps Coaching Staff Wages, Player Amortisation, Impairment, sacking Manager and Coaching Staff plus Agents Fees. I believe by Wages it means all Remuneration ie Tax, NI etc. |
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Post by bristolcityinpeace on Jul 18, 2024 16:38:55 GMT
You clearly don't grasp or don't want to grasp the point. A Forecast Breach 2 Years Hence can trigger something, at the very least Clubs are monitored on a continual basis. What do you know of the CFRP and CFRU? Youre not still flogging that dead horse are you🙄Give it a rest FFS I invite you to read Regulations 2.8, 2.9 and Guidance. My working theory is a breach is a risk by Spring 2026 ie the 3 Year Period ending 2025-26. However yeah the Rules seem to be going anyway. |
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Post by LGH87 on Jul 18, 2024 16:40:28 GMT
I'll be honest, I'm not interested in fag packet maths. We have our own FFP expert who I can guarantee will know more than you ever will. I'll worry when he does. You clearly don't grasp or don't want to grasp the point. A Forecast Breach 2 Years Hence can trigger something, at the very least Clubs are monitored on a continual basis. What do you know of the CFRP and CFRU? You’re defo that kid that would switch the PlayStation off when losing on FIFA. |
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Post by bolders on Jul 18, 2024 16:42:17 GMT
The only reason I see that he has picked BC over us is mainly down to game time he will be a starter for them and a squad player for us.
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Jul 18, 2024 16:44:26 GMT
Youre not still flogging that dead horse are you🙄Give it a rest FFS I invite you to read Regulations 2.8, 2.9 and Guidance. My working theory is a breach is a risk by Spring 2026 ie the 3 Year Period ending 2025-26. However yeah the Rules seem to be going anyway. Bore off |
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Post by tommycarlsberg on Jul 18, 2024 16:46:47 GMT
The local press downplayed the need for a sale pretty soon after that article and focussed more on a desire to drive down the squad size. Your obsession with seeing us or wanting to see us sanctioned is utterly bizarre. If we got sanctioned tomorrow and got a big enough points deduction to see us into League One, you'd still wake up as a Bristol City fan and you'd still support a club that achieved absolutely nothing, and will achieve absolutely nothing. . Income is 6th or 7th highest in the division, enough to build on a solid midtable base. In respect of Rules I think a few clubs could he under a bit of monitoring at least and it is plausible Stoke could have a potential +2 year overspend risk but a deduction if one arose probably would have minimal impact anyway. So why don't you then? You've not laid a glove on the Premier League in my 25 years of following football, not even had finger tips on being anywhere near it. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 18, 2024 16:48:15 GMT
I'll be honest, I'm not interested in fag packet maths. We have our own FFP expert who I can guarantee will know more than you ever will. I'll worry when he does. You clearly don't grasp or don't want to grasp the point. A Forecast Breach 2 Years Hence can trigger something, at the very least Clubs are monitored on a continual basis. What do you know of the CFRP and CFRU? By the amount of aimless gum gnashing you've been doing about our club, our owners and our finances for the last god knows how many years I'd say I don't know much less than you. Like I said, we have our own expert on here and until he says we are in trouble I'll pass on messageboard super sleuths with a clear agenda, thanks. |
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Post by tommycarlsberg on Jul 18, 2024 16:51:54 GMT
You clearly don't grasp or don't want to grasp the point. A Forecast Breach 2 Years Hence can trigger something, at the very least Clubs are monitored on a continual basis. What do you know of the CFRP and CFRU? By the amount of aimless gum gnashing you've been doing about our club, our owners and our finances for the last god knows how many years I'd say I don't know much less than you. Like I said, we have our own expert on here and until he says we are in trouble I'll pass on messageboard super sleuths with a clear agenda, thanks. Exactly. He's managed to tally up 160 posts on our message board with his doom mongering and still not a single point deducted. It would suggest he knows the square root of fcuk all. |
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Post by nonameface on Jul 18, 2024 16:57:04 GMT
The local press downplayed the need for a sale pretty soon after that article and focussed more on a desire to drive down the squad size. Your obsession with seeing us or wanting to see us sanctioned is utterly bizarre. If we got sanctioned tomorrow and got a big enough points deduction to see us into League One, you'd still wake up as a Bristol City fan and you'd still support a club that achieved absolutely nothing, and will achieve absolutely nothing. We tick a number of boxes for play-off challenging tbh. Income is 6th or 7th highest in the division, enough to build on a solid midtable base. In respect of Rules I think a few clubs could he under a bit of monitoring at least and it is plausible Stoke could have a potential +2 year overspend risk but a deduction if one arose probably would have minimal impact anyway. Agree Bristol City are an attractive club and that may have been the reason Sinclair has chosen yourselves. It may also be that you’ve developed a few more strikers in recent years than we have. Personally don’t think he suits either clubs present footballing style, especially yours since you’ve moved to very slow build up play. As for our spending, we could be in a position where we are tight on FFP funds, and or squad size, but most clubs are going to do their best to not bring this into the press as it could impact negotiations. Feel fairly comfortable we will be on the right line all the way with finances now, so you possibly don’t need to worry on our behalf. |
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Post by middleoftheboothen on Jul 18, 2024 17:11:11 GMT
Why anyone gives this Bristol city fan who knows nothing of our financial position the time of day is beyond me.
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Post by LDE76 on Jul 18, 2024 17:30:31 GMT
You can never have too many Dunning-Kruger-addled weirdos on your forum.
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Post by alsagerstokie on Aug 21, 2024 19:42:56 GMT
Who is in Chelsea's squad?
Goalkeepers (8)
Filip Jorgensen, 22, signed for £21m; Robert Sanchez, 26, £25m; Djordje Petrovic, 24, £14m (available on loan); Kepa Arrizabalaga, 29, £72m* (for sale); Marcus Bettinelli, 32, free*; Mike Penders, 19, £17m (on loan) not yet confirmed; Gabriel Slonina, 20, £9m (available on loan); Lucas Bergstrom, 21, undisclosed* (for sale/loan).
Full-backs (7)
Reece James, right, 24, academy; Marc Cucurella, left, 26, £62m; Ben Chilwell, left, 27, £45m*; Renato Veiga, left, 21, £12m; Malo Gusto, 21, right, £30m; Josh Acheampong, right, 18, academy; Caleb Wiley, left, 19, £9m (on loan).
Centre-backs (9)
Axel Disasi, 26, £39m; Wesley Fofana, 23, £75m; Levi Colwill, 21, academy; Tosin Adarabioyo, 26, free; Benoit Badiashile, 23, £33m; Trevoh Chalobah, 25, academy (for sale); Aaron Anselmino, 19, £16 (on loan); Alfie Gilchrist, 20, academy (on loan); Bashir Humphreys, 21, academy (for sale/loan).
Midfielders (15)
Enzo Fernandez, 23, £107m; Moises Caicedo, 22, £115m; Christopher Nkunku, 26, £52m; Omari Kellyman, 19, £19m; Cesare Casadei, 21, £17m; Lesley Ugochukwu, 20, £23m; Kiernan Dewsbury-Hall, 25, £30m; Romeo Lavia, 20, £53m; Carney Chukwuemeka, 20, £20m; Tino Anjorin, 22, academy (available for sale/loan); Andrey Santos, 20, £18m (on loan); Kendry Paez, 17, £17m (on loan); Alex Matos, 19, free; Jimi Tauriainen, 20, undisclosed* (available on loan); Leo Castledine, 18, academy (available on loan).
Wingers (9)
Mykhailo Mudryk, left, 23, £89m; Raheem Sterling, left, 29, £48m; Pedro Neto, left, 24, £54m; Cole Palmer, right, 22, £43m; Noni Madueke, right, 22, £29m; Estaevo Willian, right, 17, £51m (on loan); Angelo Gabriel, right, 19, £13m (available on loan); Harvey Vale, 20, academy (for sale/loan); Diego Moreira, 20, free.
Strikers (7)
Romelu Lukaku, 31, £100m*; Nicolas Jackson, 23, £32m; David Datro Fofana, 21, £11m (for sale); Deivid Washington, 19, £17m; Marc Guiu, 18, £5m; Mason Burstow, 21, £1.5m* (for sale/loan); Armando Broja, 22, academy (for sale).
Total, including loanees: 55
Sterling being forced out now.
Gallagher out Felix in that didnt work last time.
Are chelsea breaking some sort of rules?
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Post by SamB_SCFC on Aug 21, 2024 19:52:35 GMT
Doesn't look like we have much does it?
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