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Post by gingerninja on Apr 12, 2024 8:12:43 GMT
Are we going to be in a better position moving forward, or are we likely to be shackled by FFP again?.
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Post by rowleyscfc on Apr 12, 2024 8:20:14 GMT
I'd imagine at we would be shackled, probably a sell before spend situation id guess
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Post by tony10 on Apr 12, 2024 8:21:20 GMT
I wouldn’t give the scouser a penny if Ennis and cundle is anything to go by.
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Post by rickyfullerbeer on Apr 12, 2024 8:31:51 GMT
What is the potential for us to waste more money you mean?
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Post by thornestein on Apr 12, 2024 8:35:35 GMT
Are we going to be in a better position moving forward, or are we likely to be shackled by FFP again?. doesn’t matter , would you trust them get decent players in 🤷♂️ |
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Post by LGH87 on Apr 12, 2024 8:39:03 GMT
Gayle, Wes, Campbell & Clark all off the wage bill and all reported high earners.
Our net spend last summer wasn't massive given what we got in for Brown & Tymon.
There will definitely be money to spend.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 12, 2024 8:42:57 GMT
It's been mentioned that the last of the COVID years drop out of the three year cycle, but not sure on that one.
Maybe that will give us a bit more leeway?
I'd be looking more closely at the League One SCMP rules if I were you...
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Post by ian57 on Apr 12, 2024 9:22:15 GMT
Are we going to be in a better position moving forward, or are we likely to be shackled by FFP again?. doesn’t matter , would you trust them get decent players in 🤷♂️ dunna matter what we think as Jon boy is the head honcho,it’s his club and schuey will be here next season whatever league we are in. |
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Post by superpotter on Apr 12, 2024 9:34:50 GMT
Couple more of his buddies from Plymouth probably
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Post by thornestein on Apr 12, 2024 9:53:15 GMT
doesn’t matter , would you trust them get decent players in 🤷♂️ dunna matter what we think as Jon boy is the head honcho,it’s his club and schuey will be here next season whatever league we are in. in your opinion |
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Post by bertiestan on Apr 12, 2024 10:27:47 GMT
Couple more of his buddies from Plymouth probably I’d be more than happy with Whittaker🔴⚪️ |
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Post by SamB_SCFC on Apr 12, 2024 10:29:32 GMT
Not worth speculating about until we know what division we'll be in. Until then it's all a moot point.
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Post by Squeekster on Apr 12, 2024 10:43:44 GMT
It's been mentioned that the last of the COVID years drop out of the three year cycle, but not sure on that one. Maybe that will give us a bit more leeway? I'd be looking more closely at the League One SCMP rules if I were you... If that was the case in league's 1 and 2 owners can make donations to the club without falling foul of the SCMP also I think we'd still generate a good income and it's percentages on salaries I think. |
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Post by sportsman on Apr 12, 2024 10:44:45 GMT
Think Simon Jordan was on about it yesterday regarding Birmingham. He was saying it’s not much different between championship and league 1 about 4m in income
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Post by bhp on Apr 12, 2024 10:45:57 GMT
Couple more of his buddies from Plymouth probably I’d be more than happy with Whittaker🔴⚪️ Too right, considering they rejected £8m from Lazio in Jan. |
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Post by etebojan on Apr 12, 2024 10:52:00 GMT
I’d be more than happy with Whittaker🔴⚪️ Too right, considering they rejected £8m from Lazio in Jan. Who would be happy in the scenario that we sell Burger for 15/20 million in summer and spend a large chunk of that on someone like whittaker, and the remaining on plugging the defence and sourcing another replacement Burger type from abroad? |
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Post by thornestein on Apr 12, 2024 10:55:56 GMT
Too right, considering they rejected £8m from Lazio in Jan. Who would be happy in the scenario that we sell Burger for 15/20 million in summer and spend a large chunk of that on someone like whittaker, and the remaining on plugging the defence and sourcing another replacement Burger type from abroad? no one will pay that much for burger yet , he’s been good but not that good , look at his recent matches , another season here then maybe |
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Post by sportsman on Apr 12, 2024 11:19:29 GMT
Simon Jordan said yesterday regarding Birmingham that there’s not too much difference between the championship and league one financially, about 4m in income
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Post by bhp on Apr 12, 2024 11:20:40 GMT
Too right, considering they rejected £8m from Lazio in Jan. Who would be happy in the scenario that we sell Burger for 15/20 million in summer and spend a large chunk of that on someone like whittaker, and the remaining on plugging the defence and sourcing another replacement Burger type from abroad? There is a list a mile long of players Prem clubs will look at before him. Half that valuation easily if sold this summer, which won't happen. |
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Apr 12, 2024 11:42:28 GMT
Expect a blood bath in May , when the reality is clear starting at everyone below SJW he wont tolerate this past the first date he has too
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Post by march4 on Apr 12, 2024 11:52:30 GMT
We are in a mess because of our past failings in moving on players we no longer want. This has to be a priority this summer.
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Post by gogogadget on Apr 12, 2024 11:57:26 GMT
I fear we fishing in 3 or 4th choice pond for players
I don’t think we are many players first choice club,
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Post by boskampsflaps on Apr 12, 2024 12:23:12 GMT
I fear we fishing in 3 or 4th choice pond for players I don’t think we are many players first choice club, We've haven't been for quite a long time. I'm more worried about us getting rid of players, Laurent and Baker will be on sizeable wages. |
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Post by Gods on Apr 12, 2024 12:26:07 GMT
Guess it depends a bit on what division we find ourselves in.
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Post by Gods on Apr 12, 2024 12:28:46 GMT
Too right, considering they rejected £8m from Lazio in Jan. Who would be happy in the scenario that we sell Burger for 15/20 million in summer and spend a large chunk of that on someone like whittaker, and the remaining on plugging the defence and sourcing another replacement Burger type from abroad? I would, but I doubt Burger's value has changed much from the £4m we paid for him. |
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Post by yellowsnowman on Apr 12, 2024 13:14:14 GMT
Burger will be a high value player in time either for us or some where else in his career. Hes worth more than what we paid but not massively so far maybe 6/7. If we stay up and he plays amazing next year the value will rocket up.
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Post by terrorofturfmoor on Apr 12, 2024 13:21:29 GMT
I’d be more than happy with Whittaker🔴⚪️ Too right, considering they rejected £8m from Lazio in Jan. That was in Jan though!!! 😏 |
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Post by bristolcityinpeace on Apr 12, 2024 17:28:43 GMT
It's been mentioned that the last of the COVID years drop out of the three year cycle, but not sure on that one. Maybe that will give us a bit more leeway? I'd be looking more closely at the League One SCMP rules if I were you... That is correct. 2021-22 was the last albeit Stoke or nobody should fail anyway because clubs who lose between X and Y in 3 years have to submit the next 2 years forecast to the EFL by March 31st in order to demonstrate that they will comply and if required work with the League to avoid failing either the next year or year after that. That isn't to say that clubs have a free hand, but wouldn't be unduly restricted either unless they decided to disregard matters. PL has the +2 Years mechanism but they seem to lack the future monitoring aspect so clubs basically have a freeish hand until December, then Accounts go in and they're over charges in mid January. |
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Post by bristolcityinpeace on Apr 12, 2024 17:32:35 GMT
It's been mentioned that the last of the COVID years drop out of the three year cycle, but not sure on that one. Maybe that will give us a bit more leeway? I'd be looking more closely at the League One SCMP rules if I were you... If that was the case in league's 1 and 2 owners can make donations to the club without falling foul of the SCMP also I think we'd still generate a good income and it's percentages on salaries I think. They can, but an issue is that excess owner contribution as the Rules are presently constructed is possibly adjusted out when back in the Championship for P&S purposes and judged on the £39m (plus Allowables) again. A club could rack up £50m losses in League One with a huge owner donation or similar, but would suddenly have to swing right back in line if they go back up making such a loss. |
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Post by wonderwall on Apr 12, 2024 18:31:42 GMT
I wouldn’t give the scouser a penny if Ennis and cundle is anything to go by. Totally agree |
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