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Post by kevkj on Apr 1, 2024 20:46:01 GMT
Once again fans were took in on one game. Baker and Laurent certainly cant plod around together next season. No left back. Leris does nothing but win a header out wide.. Haz has no end product whatsoever. Three weak centre halves,let them all go. Forwards all moi. Big job on again
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Post by svengaliinplatforms on Apr 1, 2024 20:48:50 GMT
If you had even a modest budget in the summer, maybe keep 5 of them? So, yep, another rebuild. We'll get it right, one day.
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Post by Vadiation_Ribe on Apr 1, 2024 21:01:42 GMT
I'm optimistic we don't need another rebuild. 3 or 4 signings in key positions should do it.
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Post by shrewspotter on Apr 1, 2024 21:02:45 GMT
In fairness we have 5 loanees that will go back, we may try and sign 1 or 2 of them. Then Campbell will probably leave and Stevens and id imagine we'd be open to letting pearson and johnson go plus maybe one or two others. So we would look to sign 6 or 7 and then we've got the likes of Tezgel, Okenbue and Sidibe to integrate
I wouldn't call it a full rebuild, more of a partial
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Post by mrnovember on Apr 1, 2024 21:03:14 GMT
To be honest, I think Josh Laurent is shite. But these last three games or so I think he's been bloody brilliant.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Apr 1, 2024 21:05:17 GMT
I'm optimistic we don't need another rebuild. 3 or 4 signings in key positions should do it. What’s your team then? This is what I think we need: GK Junior CB CB LB CM Burger Manhoef Bae LW Mmaee* *would totally sign another striker to start though
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Post by owdestokie2 on Apr 1, 2024 21:08:55 GMT
I'm optimistic we don't need another rebuild. 3 or 4 signings in key positions should do it. Wrong. Sorry but there could be up to 10 players being replaced in the Summer. Factual from August last year and January this year. That doesn’t include players who we may wish to move on. Im hoping for a balanced change of personnel. Recruiting quality over quantity and going for the same in January
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Post by pieofpeter on Apr 1, 2024 21:14:21 GMT
Think we will keep Iverson personally as they will need the cash.
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Post by wakefieldstokie on Apr 1, 2024 21:15:12 GMT
Once again fans were took in on one game. Baker and Laurent certainly cant plod around together next season. No left back. Leris does nothing but win a header out wide.. Haz has no end product whatsoever. Three weak centre halves,let them all go. Forwards all moi. Big job on again And a questionable manager.
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Post by mickstupp on Apr 1, 2024 21:16:08 GMT
Who’s getting sold to fund it? Burger or Junho?
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Post by bayernoatcake on Apr 1, 2024 21:16:42 GMT
Who’s getting sold to fund it? Burger or Junho? We have super rich wonderful owners who can do no wrong?
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Post by scfcno1fan on Apr 1, 2024 21:20:38 GMT
To be honest, I think Josh Laurent is shite. But these last three games or so I think he's been bloody brilliant. This. Most of his passing was spot on today.
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Post by mickstupp on Apr 1, 2024 21:21:22 GMT
Who’s getting sold to fund it? Burger or Junho? We have super rich wonderful owners who can do no wrong? They can’t change the FFP rules unfortunately. If we want wholesale changes again then someone’s going to have to be sold to fund it.
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Post by owdestokie2 on Apr 1, 2024 21:22:19 GMT
Who’s getting sold to fund it? Burger or Junho? We have super rich wonderful owners who can do no wrong? See you’re creeping up to 146,000 posts. Have you been on an extended holiday?
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Post by bayernoatcake on Apr 1, 2024 21:23:44 GMT
We have super rich wonderful owners who can do no wrong? They can’t change the FFP rules unfortunately. If we want wholesale changes again then someone’s going to have to be sold to fund it. But but but. Get rid of them.
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Post by mickstupp on Apr 1, 2024 21:25:08 GMT
They can’t change the FFP rules unfortunately. If we want wholesale changes again then someone’s going to have to be sold to fund it. But but but. Get rid of them. New owners would have the same problem.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Apr 1, 2024 21:29:41 GMT
But but but. Get rid of them. New owners would have the same problem. But would hopefully have an actual plan and structure and vision. We don’t have any of the three currently and haven’t for far too long.
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Post by mickstupp on Apr 1, 2024 21:31:31 GMT
New owners would have the same problem. But would hopefully have an actual plan and structure and vision. We don’t have any of the three currently and haven’t for far too long. We’d still have to sell a key player to fund wholesale changes even if that were to happen. Which it won’t.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Apr 1, 2024 21:32:47 GMT
But would hopefully have an actual plan and structure and vision. We don’t have any of the three currently and haven’t for far too long. We’d still have to sell a key player to fund wholesale changes even if that were to happen. Which it won’t. Not necessarily. You don’t need lots of money. Which is something they need to remember and is a massive part of the problem and is it’s their only lazy arsed solution to the problem.
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Post by nonameface on Apr 1, 2024 21:33:59 GMT
We need to keep the signings down to a minimum and work on players forming relationships and patterns of play with each other this summer. Then in January we can re-evaluate.
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Iversen (on another loan) Bonham Simkin
Hoever (another loan) Junior
Wilmot Rose New CB (unlikely to be Mcnally due to Burnley relegation) Okagbue Baker
New LB Stevens or Gooch
New CM Laurent Baker Sidibe Burger Thompson
Manhoef Leris
Vidigal (sell if reasonable offers, potentially replace with Haks) Junho
Ennis Mmaee Lowe Tezgel
Bomb: Gooch or Stevens Johnson Wesley Clark Fielding Blondy Pearson
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Post by bayernoatcake on Apr 1, 2024 21:35:34 GMT
We need to keep the signings down to a minimum and work on players forming relationships and patterns of play with each other this summer. Then in January we can re-evaluate. keep Iversen (on another loan) Bonham Simkin Hoever (another loan) Junior Wilmot Rose New CB (unlikely to be Mcnally due to Burnley relegation) Okagbue Baker New LB Stevens or Gooch New CM Laurent Baker Sidibe Burger Thompson Manhoef Leris Vidigal (sell if reasonable offers, potentially replace with Haks) Junho Ennis Mmaee Lowe Tezgel Bomb: Gooch or Stevens Johnson Wesley Clark Fielding Blondy Pearson But that is a squad that’s in a relegation battle and rightly so. What would change? That CB list is fucking frightening in particular!
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Post by generationex on Apr 1, 2024 21:36:01 GMT
They can’t change the FFP rules unfortunately. If we want wholesale changes again then someone’s going to have to be sold to fund it. But but but. Get rid of them. I know it’s the end of a long drinking weekend but don’t be silly. I’m being generous that you’re drunk BTW.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Apr 1, 2024 21:37:22 GMT
But but but. Get rid of them. I know it’s the end of a long drinking weekend but don’t be silly. I’m being generous that you’re drunk BTW. What’s silly about wanting rid of the biggest issue this club has?
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Post by mickstupp on Apr 1, 2024 21:37:47 GMT
We’d still have to sell a key player to fund wholesale changes even if that were to happen. Which it won’t. Not necessarily. You don’t need lots of money. Which is something they need to remember and is a massive part of the problem and is it’s their only lazy arsed solution to the problem. It would cost a fortune moving some of the contracted players out alone. That’s before we’ve factored in the cost of replacing them.
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Post by owdestokie2 on Apr 1, 2024 21:41:13 GMT
But but but. Get rid of them. New owners would have the same problem. Sorry Mick. He’s a wind up merchant. Don’t play to his game, hard not to bite I understand. He’s chasing a Guinness Book of records for the number of posts.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Apr 1, 2024 21:42:03 GMT
Not necessarily. You don’t need lots of money. Which is something they need to remember and is a massive part of the problem and is it’s their only lazy arsed solution to the problem. It would cost a fortune moving some of the contracted players out alone. That’s before we’ve factored in the cost of replacing them. The only one would be Pearson surely? The rest are either out of contract, saleable or you’d keep for the squad. Going back to the centre halves as an example as it looked so horrific. Keep Rose for third choice. McNally goes back. Someone would buy Wilmot for 3-500k. Release Clark. It’s what should happen. Midfield Burger and Baker stay Sell Laurent for a few hundred k Let Thompson go Pearson would be a pain in the arse to get rid of for sure. But again, it doesn’t seem too difficult or outlandish?
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Post by bayernoatcake on Apr 1, 2024 21:42:40 GMT
New owners would have the same problem. Sorry Mick. He’s a wind up merchant. Don’t play to his game, hard not to bite I understand. He’s chasing a Guinness Book of records for the number of posts. Post about the football and not me for a change you obsessed weirdo.
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Post by fortressbritannia on Apr 1, 2024 21:44:38 GMT
Definitely keep: Burger, Junho, Manhoef, Junior, Bonham, Gooch, Ennis, Thompson
Probably keep: Laurent, Rose, Stevens, Mmaee, Baker, Leris
Not arsed if they go: Vidigal, Pearson, Johnson, Wilmott, Campbell (we all know he's not going to be here next season)
Will Personally drive to their next club: Wesley, Clark.
Loans signings I'm happy to have next season: McNally.
Loans signings I'd probably have back: Hoever, Iversen
Loans signings I'm not arsed about: cundle, Haks.
Not a complete rebuild needed I don't think but some big first team players need to come in. Difficult as I can't see which youth players are going to come through currently other than Lowe and maybe Sidibe. So the likes of Wilmott might be here next season
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Post by mickstupp on Apr 1, 2024 21:45:52 GMT
It would cost a fortune moving some of the contracted players out alone. That’s before we’ve factored in the cost of replacing them. The only one would be Pearson surely? The rest are either out of contract, saleable or you’d keep for the squad. Going back to the centre halves as an example as it looked so horrific. Keep Rose for third choice. McNally goes back. Someone would buy Wilmot for 3-500k. Release Clark. It’s what should happen. Midfield Burger and Baker stay Sell Laurent for a few hundred k Let Thompson go Pearson would be a pain in the arse to get rid of for sure. But again, it doesn’t seem too difficult or outlandish? Pearson, Laurent, Wilmot, Baker, Vidigal, Jojic, Mmaee, Johnson, Ennis… the list goes on. Mountains of shite that no one will want to pay for. And then you’d have to replace them.
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Post by Block 26 on Apr 1, 2024 21:46:15 GMT
The positive is that we do have a few decent players in there in which I can see potential. The problem is that they’re surrounded by absolute shite.
For me, a complete new defence & a striker.
If I was to pick 2 players out it would be Junho & Manhoef, I’m still not decided on Burger.
Laurent is a power house when he wants to be & Baker has quality but again, they’re surrounded by shit bar 1 or 2 players.
I’d keep Gooch & Thompson as squad players too.
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