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Post by questionable on Apr 1, 2024 17:09:53 GMT
We fix one hole then open up 3-4 more.
We all crave for Stoke to do well when in reality we are a very, very poor/managed/ran club and the 41 games we’ve played prove this fact.
I’m sick to death of we need A/B/C when in reality we’re so far away from D it’s scary.
If I was to point the finger it’d be at the owners as it’s their vision that repeatedly keeps us in this piss poor loop time after time.
I keep on about Schumacher and rightly so as he’s so far out of his depth it’s crazy.
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Post by nonameface on Apr 1, 2024 17:12:45 GMT
Ennis played better than M'waee, in which universe?? We scored while Ennis was on the pitch and were looking positive and playing with purpose early second half before the changes. I like Mmaee but thought he was poor today. Maybe I've missed something he did though? Would like to see the stats on the game because for me Ennis didn't control the ball very well and so we found it difficult to move forward. Like both strikers and don't see either as a problem though. Today isn't the worst result in the world, the most important thing was to not lose and that's the reason he fielded a pretty solid midfield, but Schuey was probably surprised at how little we created so had to mix it up. |
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Post by insideright on Apr 1, 2024 17:14:33 GMT
It the old days it would have been called lack of moral fibre. The simple answer is the team lacks character and heart. In the old days you got shot for a lack of moral fibre!! Just saying |
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Post by questionable on Apr 1, 2024 17:15:56 GMT
another numpty blaming the fans 🤦♂️ sure booing helps, giving Schuey and the players dogs abuse by the tunnel is great! It’s not us, it’s not! Home record has been wank ever since the home fans became restless, it’s really obvious. We make it intimidating for our own team, it’s embarrassing 😂 Sorry mate but Bull Shit, he deserves everything he gets and deservedly so and so do the players. They’re paid an absolute fortune to play professional football, so basically they can perform once a fortnight and frightened to play at home, no chance. Fact of the matter is we have manager who bottles it and 9/10 outsmarted at home. |
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Post by banksy1art on Apr 1, 2024 17:17:10 GMT
sure booing helps, giving Schuey and the players dogs abuse by the tunnel is great! It’s not us, it’s not! Home record has been wank ever since the home fans became restless, it’s really obvious. We make it intimidating for our own team, it’s embarrassing 😂 Sorry mate but Bull Shit, he deserves everything he gets and deservedly so and so do the players. They’re paid an absolute fortune to play professional football, so basically they can perform once a fortnight and frightened to play at home, no chance. Fact of the matter is we have manager who bottles it and 9/10 outsmarted at home. there we go 😂 let’s keep booing lads. Last 5-6 years were clearly a coincidence |
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Post by jimigoodwinsbeard on Apr 1, 2024 17:17:41 GMT
Ennis played better than M'waee, in which universe?? A crack-filled one. Ennis is woeful, good for 10mins at end of games to run around a lot. I worry now that Schumacher rates him and Cundle. Both look league 1.....at best |
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Post by mrcoke on Apr 1, 2024 17:22:55 GMT
I don't think there is just one problem.
Clearly the players can't handle the pressure of expectation. When the pressure is off and they are not expected to win they relax and play better. And vice versa.
They were sent out early after half time - Schuey probably gave them a shoeing.
Some of the players may have been good at their previous clubs but can't handle the pace and pressure of the Championship.
Teamwork is still not good enough, which is hardly surprising if you keep changing the players. Our defending is not as bad as it often feels; the stats tell us that. But our ability to create chances and convert the few that do arise into goals is very poor. We could have the best striker in the league but if chances aren't created , even the best can't score. Own goal is our highest scorer, isn't he? That suggests we are pressurising teams into mistakes.
I think we have been lucky in a couple of matches, when our team has been second best and the opposition manager subbed a couple of players. It happened on Friday when we were under the cosh for the first 10 minutes of the 2nd half and they then changed players and let us off the hook. I'm not complaining!
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Post by smallthorner on Apr 1, 2024 17:24:28 GMT
Ennis played better than M'waee, in which universe?? A crack-filled one. Ennis is woeful, good for 10mins at end of games to run around a lot. I worry now that Schumacher rates him and Cundle. Both look league 1.....at best If Cundle is here next season then I will be seriously concerned. |
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Post by stiggerstackle on Apr 1, 2024 17:28:03 GMT
So what do we do? Genuine question?
Happy clap utter shite and say ‘go on lads you can do it’ in a Saturday morning under 9’s stylee?
I’m genuinely bemused, I’m not one to boo myself, but after the appalling performances we get treated to i fully understand why people do.
The players are professionals earning more in 10 years than I’ll earn in my lifetime, and some of the performances we are subjected to are utterly disgraceful.
These aren’t young lads breaking through - they are pro’s and need to act like it.
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Post by banksy1art on Apr 1, 2024 17:29:42 GMT
So what do we do? Genuine question? Happy clap utter shite and say ‘go on lads you can do it’ in a Saturday morning under 9’s stylee? I’m genuinely bemused, I’m not one to boo myself, but after the appalling performances we get treated to i fully understand why people do. The players are professionals earning more in 10 years than I’ll earn in my lifetime, and some of the performances we are subjected to are utterly disgraceful. These aren’t young lads breaking through - they are pro’s and need to act like it. But what the fuck does booing do 😂 and at half time? Absolute joke. Must be motivating |
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Post by Trouserdog on Apr 1, 2024 17:35:22 GMT
The starting line-up and tactics had us start with one hand tied behind our backs.
Leris runs around a lot but has zero creativity. Ennis the same, but why we were lumping the ball up to him against two big centre-backs, I have no idea.
It meant the ball never stuck up the other end and Huddersfield were able to control the game.
Lo and behold, we bring on some players who can actually control a football and we take charge.
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Post by GrahamHyde on Apr 1, 2024 17:37:12 GMT
So what do we do? Genuine question? Happy clap utter shite and say ‘go on lads you can do it’ in a Saturday morning under 9’s stylee? I’m genuinely bemused, I’m not one to boo myself, but after the appalling performances we get treated to i fully understand why people do. The players are professionals earning more in 10 years than I’ll earn in my lifetime, and some of the performances we are subjected to are utterly disgraceful. These aren’t young lads breaking through - they are pro’s and need to act like it. But what the fuck does booing do 😂 and at half time? Absolute joke. Must be motivating We scored second half so it worked. |
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Post by cvillestokie on Apr 1, 2024 17:38:59 GMT
Sorry mate but Bull Shit, he deserves everything he gets and deservedly so and so do the players. They’re paid an absolute fortune to play professional football, so basically they can perform once a fortnight and frightened to play at home, no chance. Fact of the matter is we have manager who bottles it and 9/10 outsmarted at home. there we go 😂 let’s keep booing lads. Last 5-6 years were clearly a coincidence They weren’t a coincidence. The club has been crap for years and as such, the fans respond by booing. I don’t particularly think that booing is helpful but I do also know that Stoke fans are happy enough if they see their team at least put in a full shift. When they don’t, they get booed. |
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Post by fortressbritannia on Apr 1, 2024 17:42:58 GMT
Today it seem psychological. I thought we were the better team in the first 10-15 mins and were in control.
Then Huddersfield had their disallowed goal, which came out of nowhere really and it gave them some belief while it seemed to rattle us. When Baker hit the bar we seemed to settle down but then gave them a sloppy goal.
Whatever was said at half-time worked, positively. Though we need people to shoot more
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Post by moon on Apr 1, 2024 17:47:07 GMT
The same problem we’ve had all season, and the same problem we will continue to have until we’ve had chance to sign a handful of players that can make a difference. Until then we’re going to have to grind out results and we are resigned to shite football the majority of the time.
Too many knicker wetters on here, 4 points over the Easter weekend was good work from all involved, on to the next one, bring on the Baggies.
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Post by rickyfullerbeer on Apr 1, 2024 17:47:20 GMT
The problem is players who aren't capable of doing the basics for 90 minutes on a regular basis amd manager after manager who all to often set it up wrong.
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Post by cheadlestokie on Apr 1, 2024 17:48:48 GMT
Managers and players should be used to being booed now and again and get on with it.
I am watching the Ipswich game at the moment and even though they are having a great season they are getting booed off at half time because they are losing 2-1.
Supporters will be supporters and rise and fall results on a week to week basis as we see on this website
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Post by stokerstayinup on Apr 1, 2024 17:54:25 GMT
Whilst we are starting players like Ennis, and Leris, and Thompson's your Left Back, you don't need to look any further. Then add - your bench options include Haksabanovic, and a head-in-the-clouds Campbell. Finally - when our best players are not at it, we look desperate. Mentioning a player in the list of reasons for us not winning who didn't even get on the pitch is hilarious and utterly moronic at the same time. |
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Post by mtrstudent on Apr 1, 2024 17:57:34 GMT
Laurent is too inconsistent to be captain. New CB/LB would balance things and free up forward movement.
Iverson
Junior-CB-Rose-LB
Baker-Burger-Bae
Manhoef-Mmaee-LF
There's a few there I wouldn't always start, but I'm convinced a good coach would get us up the table with that as a base.
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Post by svengaliinplatforms on Apr 1, 2024 18:00:57 GMT
Whilst we are starting players like Ennis, and Leris, and Thompson's your Left Back, you don't need to look any further. Then add - your bench options include Haksabanovic, and a head-in-the-clouds Campbell. Finally - when our best players are not at it, we look desperate. Mentioning a player in the list of reasons for us not winning who didn't even get on the pitch is hilarious and utterly moronic at the same time. I was looking past just today's result, believe it or not?! Unless you think today was the sum of all our problems? The question is 'what's the problem then?' Not 'why didn't we win today?' Back to school you go. |
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Post by bassmaster on Apr 1, 2024 18:03:01 GMT
I'm struggling to work out what the issue is - on the pitch. We have a lot of players who look decent on paper, yet we produce turgid shite like today, time and again. Would a new defence see us winning everything 1-0? Is our midfield as good as we think it is? The more I watch this team, the less I know how to fix it. Your use of commas? |
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Post by stokerstayinup on Apr 1, 2024 18:11:34 GMT
Mentioning a player in the list of reasons for us not winning who didn't even get on the pitch is hilarious and utterly moronic at the same time. I was looking past just today's result, believe it or not?! Unless you think today was the sum of all our problems? The question is 'what's the problem then?' Not 'why didn't we win today?' Back to school you go. You were describing events that happened today ya clown,not me. |
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Post by stokiedan17 on Apr 1, 2024 18:11:43 GMT
Am I the only one who enjoyed the match today ?? An end to end game with poor finishing from both sides but a lot of meaty tackles and physicality with a nice bit of play and passing from us for the majority. Yeah we didn’t win but I still enjoyed it all the same
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Post by svengaliinplatforms on Apr 1, 2024 18:27:01 GMT
I was looking past just today's result, believe it or not?! Unless you think today was the sum of all our problems? The question is 'what's the problem then?' Not 'why didn't we win today?' Back to school you go. You were describing events that happened today ya clown,not me. No I wasn't. I was talking about why our season is, where it is. Today was a good EXAMPLE of why we are, where we are. And yes, with Tyrese 'Premier League move' Campbell, dreaming of what's down the road, not giving a shit about anything else. |
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Post by walrus on Apr 1, 2024 19:28:58 GMT
The primary problem at the moment is the manager. Once again he got the initial team selection badly wrong. We looked so much better after some attacking subs and when Bae moved to play centrally.
The way we set up gave a poor, out of form Huddersfield team the chance to settle into the game and get a foothold.
I thought the second half performance was decent and I’m pleased with four points over the Easter weekend but that feels like a big missed opportunity today.
The 2pm groan has become a fixture at home games under Schumacher and he doesn’t seem to learn from his mistakes.
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Post by Picasso on Apr 1, 2024 19:49:19 GMT
The primary problem at the moment is the manager. Once again he got the initial team selection badly wrong. We looked so much better after some attacking subs and when Bae moved to play centrally. The way we set up gave a poor, out of form Huddersfield team the chance to settle into the game and get a foothold. I thought the second half performance was decent and I’m pleased with four points over the Easter weekend but that feels like a big missed opportunity today. The 2pm groan has become a fixture at home games under Schumacher and he doesn’t seem to learn from his mistakes. This seems quite harsh on Schumacher. Overall, he is gradually working things out and our recent form shows a decent upturn. Maybe today was a missed opportunity, but equally, we have kept Huddersfield 5 points behind us in a game where they needed to give it everything. The primary problem at the moment is most definitely not the manager. |
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Post by numpty40 on Apr 1, 2024 19:55:15 GMT
Slow and cautious in possession, very little movement between the lines, no width in forward areas, very little pace and no urgency to fill the box going forward.
All stuff that can be worked on during the week but come matchday the players look as though they've never met each other.
Apart from that I can't see any other issues.
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Post by bertiestan on Apr 1, 2024 19:56:09 GMT
Am I the only one who enjoyed the match today ?? An end to end game with poor finishing from both sides but a lot of meaty tackles and physicality with a nice bit of play and passing from us for the majority. Yeah we didn’t win but I still enjoyed it all the same Your definitely in the minority Dan😂🔴⚪️ |
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Post by mrnovember on Apr 1, 2024 19:57:36 GMT
The starting front four today should have consisted of Mmaee, Campbell, Bae and one of Haks or Mills. Pretty simple really.
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Post by walrus on Apr 1, 2024 19:59:39 GMT
The primary problem at the moment is the manager. Once again he got the initial team selection badly wrong. We looked so much better after some attacking subs and when Bae moved to play centrally. The way we set up gave a poor, out of form Huddersfield team the chance to settle into the game and get a foothold. I thought the second half performance was decent and I’m pleased with four points over the Easter weekend but that feels like a big missed opportunity today. The 2pm groan has become a fixture at home games under Schumacher and he doesn’t seem to learn from his mistakes. This seems quite harsh on Schumacher. Overall, he is gradually working things out and our recent form shows a decent upturn. Maybe today was a missed opportunity, but equally, we have kept Huddersfield 5 points behind us in a game where they needed to give it everything. The primary problem at the moment is most definitely not the manager. I disagree. I’m so disappointed with him. When he was appointed he sounded perfect with his four supposed non-negotiables, but he doesn’t even seem to try and deliver them any more. He hasn’t done anything that Neil wasn’t already doing, and I really didn’t like Neil. Starting Leris and Ennis today was just the latest in an increasingly long line of bottled team selections from him that produce dour, passive football. I have no faith in him to spend money well this summer and think there’s sadly every chance we’ll find ourselves struggling and managerless again by Christmas having signed a load of players that nobody else would want. |
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