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Post by Paul Spencer on Mar 22, 2024 21:49:25 GMT
Hot off the press, a thread ... A genuine conspiracy or just some human linking a bunch of random things?
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Post by danceswithclams on Mar 22, 2024 21:55:17 GMT
Hot off the press, a thread ... A genuine conspiracy or just some human linking a bunch of random things? 'Brian' my arse. That's Johnny Vegas with a beard. |
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Post by mtrstudent on Mar 22, 2024 22:07:51 GMT
Perhaps sometimes, if the cultures aren't that different, but nothing has happened in Sweden for a generation, while the original Swedes show the weakest birth figures now according to the news for Ages, 1.4 children per family. The reason is said to be the worrying situation in the world, with wars and all - and it's quite understandable, while other groups still think condomes are a sin. It's actually pure logic, not a conspiracy theory. I've heard amazing things about parental leave and stuff in Sweden. In the US they blame money. Not many people can take time off work and childcare costs a lot. |
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Post by Gawa on Mar 22, 2024 22:16:34 GMT
The poster wannabe is former Stoke City manager Michael O'Neill.
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Post by henry on Mar 22, 2024 22:37:24 GMT
The poster wannabe is former Stoke City manager Michael O'Neill. Did Michael O'Neill get his team selection of ChatGPT ? |
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Post by atillathehoneybee on Mar 22, 2024 22:41:54 GMT
There is a thing called the Fermi Paradox which purports to prove that there isn't any other life in the universe because as there are stars that are billions of years older than our own Sun, then if there is life out there, why hasn't anybody parked up on the White House lawn by now as they would be so much further advanced than us?
But the one element that I think it fails to address, is that just because there are stars out there that are so much older than the Sun, it doesn't then automatically mean that life that develops on those planets, actually survives long enough as a species in order to ultimately be able to create technology that can provide interstellar travel.
The universe is absolutely massive and for all we know, it could be absolutely teaming with life right now. But the fact that we all live so far apart from each other, means that we will never get to know that each other exist. Will 'intelligent' species who become a technological species, ultimately and sadly always end up blowing themselves up via nuclear war, or end up destroying the host planet they live on in other ways, before they ever even get to the point of allowing themselves the opportunity to build a Starship Enterprise?
Problem with these theories, are the notions that because other life hasn’t bothered parking up at the White House then it doesn’t exist, like some kind of weird idea that the earth is the centre of the universe It’s human arrogance personified to think we are some sort of superior species irrespective of what’s out there. In actual fact aliens have seen the state of Burslem and realised the trip isn’t worth it. The universe is incredibly old, I subscribe to the theory that life came before us somewhere and will do the same again long after we blow ourselves into oblivion. Let’s not forget that Mars was once the green and lush planet similar to what we are today, it’s just that it matured too quickly and then went and lost its atmosphere and fucked itself over, there’s a very good chance there was once life as close as on our own doorstep. All that was happening whilst the earth was recovering from another planet having a fight with us and creating our moon. There is life out there, the maths makes sense - it’s just that they are all too far away to give a shit, or, more concerning - they know not to advertise their whereabouts…. Absolutely agree. The fact that we are so far away from any other life sustaining planet is irrelevant. I would imagine in other galaxies and solar systems inter planetary travel has happened, but given our isolation it is very unlikely any alien being ( as we understand) could live long enough to make the journey. I deliberately say unlikely and not impossible. And even if we detected a faint signal , maths says it was generated millions of years ago, which makes replying pretty futile, as it would take millions of years for a reply to be received. Chances are we have been visited, but I would hazard a guess a little closer to home from within this solar system, maybe from an extinct planet that no longer exists. |
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Post by Gawa on Mar 22, 2024 22:49:04 GMT
The poster wannabe is former Stoke City manager Michael O'Neill. Did Michael O'Neill get his team selection of ChatGPT ? ChatGPT got their team selection of Michael O'Neill |
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Post by dirtygary69 on Mar 22, 2024 23:41:41 GMT
There's the Avril Lavigne one as well. Died years ago apparently... Not a clue who came up with that or why.
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Post by CBUFAWKIPWH on Mar 23, 2024 9:27:28 GMT
Problem with these theories, are the notions that because other life hasn’t bothered parking up at the White House then it doesn’t exist, like some kind of weird idea that the earth is the centre of the universe It’s human arrogance personified to think we are some sort of superior species irrespective of what’s out there. In actual fact aliens have seen the state of Burslem and realised the trip isn’t worth it. The universe is incredibly old, I subscribe to the theory that life came before us somewhere and will do the same again long after we blow ourselves into oblivion. Let’s not forget that Mars was once the green and lush planet similar to what we are today, it’s just that it matured too quickly and then went and lost its atmosphere and fucked itself over, there’s a very good chance there was once life as close as on our own doorstep. All that was happening whilst the earth was recovering from another planet having a fight with us and creating our moon. There is life out there, the maths makes sense - it’s just that they are all too far away to give a shit, or, more concerning - they know not to advertise their whereabouts…. Absolutely agree. The fact that we are so far away from any other life sustaining planet is irrelevant. I would imagine in other galaxies and solar systems inter planetary travel has happened, but given our isolation it is very unlikely any alien being ( as we understand) could live long enough to make the journey. I deliberately say unlikely and not impossible. And even if we detected a faint signal , maths says it was generated millions of years ago, which makes replying pretty futile, as it would take millions of years for a reply to be received. Chances are we have been visited, but I would hazard a guess a little closer to home from within this solar system, maybe from an extinct planet that no longer exists. I agree it's almost certain that there is life on other planets somewhere in the universe but the distances are so vast there is no way they could have visited without some form of technology that can deal with the restrictions posed by general relativity (it's impossible even in theory to travel faster than light and increasingly difficult to get to the speed of light as mass increases as you get there). During the early stages of the formation of our solar system there were other proto planets that merged and got destroyed (our moon is supposed to be there as a result of one of those collisions) but there was insufficient time for intelligent life to form. It's only after the chaos stopped and the current solar system took shape that there was time and the stability for intelligent life to evolve. There may well be life somewhere in the solar system - some of the moons of Jupiter and Saturn are likely candidates - but it's very unlikely to be anything much more than bacteria. |
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Post by musik on Mar 23, 2024 10:18:18 GMT
I've heard amazing things about parental leave and stuff in Sweden. In the US they blame money. Not many people can take time off work and childcare costs a lot. Those amazing things ... do you mean that parents can get 480 days parental leave, with the first 390 being paid 80% of their income? The last 90 days it's just 18 bucks per day. All tax financed. The upbringing the first three years is the most important period in their lives so many people want 365x3=1095 days parental leave. It was the socialist and communist movement here who implemented child care as an institution in the late sixties, before that it was the mother's responsibility to raise the kids (as in my family's case). These days mostly the Christ Democrats want to go back to that and implement a House Work salary as well. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 23, 2024 11:54:27 GMT
I've heard amazing things about parental leave and stuff in Sweden. In the US they blame money. Not many people can take time off work and childcare costs a lot. Those amazing things ... do you mean that parents can get 480 days parental leave, with the first 390 being paid 80% of their income? The last 90 days it's just 18 bucks per day. All tax financed. The upbringing the first three years is the most important period in their lives so many people want 365x3=1095 days parental leave. It was the socialist and communist movement here who implemented child care as an institution in the late sixties, before that it was the mother's responsibility to raise the kids (as in my family's case). These days mostly the Christ Democrats want to go back to that and implement a House Work salary as well. Sounds good to me. My wife has had to just file for “disability” so that she can take maternity leave. She gets 6 weeks at 60% salary and 6 weeks of no salary (but they can’t sack her). Her situation is in no way the worst in the U.S. |
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Post by musik on Mar 23, 2024 15:35:57 GMT
Those amazing things ... do you mean that parents can get 480 days parental leave, with the first 390 being paid 80% of their income? The last 90 days it's just 18 bucks per day. All tax financed. The upbringing the first three years is the most important period in their lives so many people want 365x3=1095 days parental leave. It was the socialist and communist movement here who implemented child care as an institution in the late sixties, before that it was the mother's responsibility to raise the kids (as in my family's case). These days mostly the Christ Democrats want to go back to that and implement a House Work salary as well. Sounds good to me. My wife has had to just file for “disability” so that she can take maternity leave. She gets 6 weeks at 60% salary and 6 weeks of no salary (but they can’t sack her). Her situation is in no way the worst in the U.S. The employer pay the 60%? Here the 80% for more than a year is tax financed. Most people think it will be 3 years in the future. |
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Post by mtrstudent on Mar 23, 2024 15:51:20 GMT
Those amazing things ... do you mean that parents can get 480 days parental leave, with the first 390 being paid 80% of their income? The last 90 days it's just 18 bucks per day. All tax financed. The upbringing the first three years is the most important period in their lives so many people want 365x3=1095 days parental leave. It was the socialist and communist movement here who implemented child care as an institution in the late sixties, before that it was the mother's responsibility to raise the kids (as in my family's case). These days mostly the Christ Democrats want to go back to that and implement a House Work salary as well. Sounds good to me. My wife has had to just file for “disability” so that she can take maternity leave. She gets 6 weeks at 60% salary and 6 weeks of no salary (but they can’t sack her). Her situation is in no way the worst in the U.S. I knew you were trying but guess I missed some good news?! Congrats to you and your wife cville! |
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Post by musik on Mar 23, 2024 16:36:04 GMT
Those amazing things ... do you mean that parents can get 480 days parental leave, with the first 390 being paid 80% of their income? The last 90 days it's just 18 bucks per day. All tax financed. The upbringing the first three years is the most important period in their lives so many people want 365x3=1095 days parental leave. It was the socialist and communist movement here who implemented child care as an institution in the late sixties, before that it was the mother's responsibility to raise the kids (as in my family's case). These days mostly the Christ Democrats want to go back to that and implement a House Work salary as well. Sounds good to me. My wife has had to just file for “disability” so that she can take maternity leave. She gets 6 weeks at 60% salary and 6 weeks of no salary (but they can’t sack her). Her situation is in no way the worst in the U.S. And what do you get? 60% as well? Or is it just your wife using parental leave? |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 23, 2024 17:37:11 GMT
Sounds good to me. My wife has had to just file for “disability” so that she can take maternity leave. She gets 6 weeks at 60% salary and 6 weeks of no salary (but they can’t sack her). Her situation is in no way the worst in the U.S. The employer pay the 60%? Here the 80% for more than a year is tax financed. Most people think it will be 3 years in the future. It’s classed as a “benefit”, so her company pays it. I actually get a better benefit of 100% pay for 8 weeks, so I get more time off (different company). Makes sense as I’m doing all the work, of course 😂. |
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Post by musik on Mar 23, 2024 17:40:24 GMT
The employer pay the 60%? Here the 80% for more than a year is tax financed. Most people think it will be 3 years in the future. It’s classed as a “benefit”, so her company pays it. I actually get a better benefit of 100% pay for 8 weeks, so I get more time off (different company). Makes sense as I’m doing all the work, of course 😂. Congratulations! 👐 |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 23, 2024 17:54:00 GMT
It’s classed as a “benefit”, so her company pays it. I actually get a better benefit of 100% pay for 8 weeks, so I get more time off (different company). Makes sense as I’m doing all the work, of course 😂. Congratulations! 👐 If they try to make a 3 year provision for maternity care in Sweden, what would it look like? Would it be a pay off or would the job still be secured? I can imagine a lot of job discrimination coming in for women in their 20’s and 30’s at that point. Wouldn’t it be cheaper to have a well-funded nursery program for childcare before school years? |
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Post by musik on Mar 23, 2024 18:19:19 GMT
If they try to make a 3 year provision for maternity care in Sweden, what would it look like? Would it be a pay off or would the job still be secured? I can imagine a lot of job discrimination coming in for women in their 20’s and 30’s at that point. Wouldn’t it be cheaper to have a well-funded nursery program for childcare before school years? The jobs will be secured, if they don't change the law, which is unlikely and would take years as usual. The employers won't be risking to be accused of job discrimination, since that law is always strictly followed. It's not ideal though, not on a business level anyway. They would have to employ a lot of people but only offer them work for a limited time. Best for our over capacity economy would be to split the working hours in the population to some extent, until the population numbers go down enough again. The ideal situation would be no need for nursery care, and instead follow the proposal from the Christ Democrats. It wouldn't in comparison push a pressure on inflation and hidden inflation to occur. |
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Post by jesusmcmuffin on Mar 23, 2024 20:24:50 GMT
I remember Patrick Moore destroying the conspiracy theorists with facts re the moon landing and how it simply couldn't have been created in a studio
Don't buy into the Diana and COVID stuff
The case that never tied in and had too many inconsistencies was the McCann case. Is still no evidence of an actual abduction either.
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Post by musik on Mar 23, 2024 20:46:00 GMT
Covid?
Is it a conspiracy theory about it as well?
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Post by jesusmcmuffin on Mar 23, 2024 21:19:54 GMT
Covid? Is it a conspiracy theory about it as well? 🤔 A remember this fella telling me it was a man made virus that was to be released at the time of a nuclear war to humanely kill people and had leaked from a satellite. Were people up there fixing the leak. He was convinced as he'd read it on the internet |
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Post by musik on Mar 24, 2024 0:00:45 GMT
Covid? Is it a conspiracy theory about it as well? 🤔 A remember this fella telling me it was a man made virus that was to be released at the time of a nuclear war to humanely kill people and had leaked from a satellite. Were people up there fixing the leak. He was convinced as he'd read it on the internet I thought you meant the conspiracy theory was that it originated in China. Which leads to a question: Can a conspiracy theory ever be true - or is it no longer a conspiracy theory then? |
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Post by Foster on Mar 24, 2024 0:16:47 GMT
A remember this fella telling me it was a man made virus that was to be released at the time of a nuclear war to humanely kill people and had leaked from a satellite. Were people up there fixing the leak. He was convinced as he'd read it on the internet I thought you meant the conspiracy theory was that it originated in China. Which leads to a question: Can a conspiracy theory ever be true - or is it no longer a conspiracy theory then? If it's true (fact) then it's not a theory. |
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Post by musik on Mar 24, 2024 1:10:32 GMT
I thought you meant the conspiracy theory was that it originated in China. Which leads to a question: Can a conspiracy theory ever be true - or is it no longer a conspiracy theory then? If it's true (fact) then it's not a theory. Unlike "theory" in everyday speech, the word in science is not used as a close synonym of the word "guess". A theory is, on the contrary, the strongest degree of probability that can be reached in science. A scientific theory differs from a scientific hypothesis which is also a proposed and testable explanation, but has not yet been rigorously tested. A scientific theory is actually a way of collecting true facts after the testing is done and present them in a proper way leading to that theory. I think if anything, we should focus on the word "conspiracy" instead. The conspiracy believers haven't any scientific evidence for them "theories", which should be called guesses. |
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Post by jesusmcmuffin on Mar 24, 2024 5:28:54 GMT
I thought you meant the conspiracy theory was that it originated in China. Which leads to a question: Can a conspiracy theory ever be true - or is it no longer a conspiracy theory then? If it's true (fact) then it's not a theory. Yep Nothing to prove that it didn't originated in China at all. The Diana thing also also, absolutely nothing to suggest it was no more than an accident , just a few things some have picked up on and claimed were unusual. Basically, the famous person dies scenario so things weren't quite what they seem story seems to follow it. |
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Post by iancransonsknees on Mar 24, 2024 7:04:47 GMT
The poster wannabe is former Stoke City manager Michael O'Neill. Did Michael O'Neill get his team selection of ChatGPT ? He used Wikipedia for scouting. |
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Post by musik on Mar 24, 2024 10:13:44 GMT
I remember Patrick Moore destroying the conspiracy theorists with facts re the moon landing and how it simply couldn't have been created in a studio I remember a mate said a year ago it had never happened, it must have been made in a studio. It had something to do with a flag, but as far as I remember they used a steel flame. A relative of mine says the Earth can't be round since more people would have died, while going upside down. 👍🤠👍 |
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Post by jesusmcmuffin on Mar 24, 2024 10:23:33 GMT
I remember Patrick Moore destroying the conspiracy theorists with facts re the moon landing and how it simply couldn't have been created in a studio I remember a mate said a year ago it had never happened, it must have been made in a studio. It had something to do with a flag. Yep the flag is one of the commonly repeated things as it looked like was flapping in the wind as was no wind on the moon Obviously a regular flag go would be a bit pointless as would just be limp in the photos etc so the one used had extended rods to make it stay unfurled and full. They visibly had problems with it at the time. The shadows, stars, lighting etc are other things brought up but are all simply explainable |
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Post by Gawa on Mar 24, 2024 16:34:15 GMT
ISIS was created by the west. Think big Don even pedaled that one too.
Any substance behind it? Anyone went down the rabbit hole?
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Post by stokeson on Mar 24, 2024 16:48:29 GMT
I heard a new phrase 0n sunday with Laura Kuenssburg today." The Illusory Truth Effect." A non fact recognised as truth by the clever use of algorithms. WTF.......
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