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Post by Seymour Beaver on Mar 23, 2024 16:17:35 GMT
Talking of the Union Flag - for the 2012 Olympics Stella McCartney used a huge corruption of it on the Team GB kit, replacing the red of the St Georges Cross with a deep blue. Have you saved your letters of outrage fused with World War nostalgia from then? Because from what I remember no-one gave a flying fuck and we had one of our most successful games ever. Great point - so what is it about this kit, and this time, that makes it feel so different? Something for you to get your brain in gear and puzzle over. See if you can come up with anything more satisfactory than “people are thick (but they weren’t 12 years ago)” I've never said 'people are thick" have I?
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Post by a on Mar 23, 2024 19:47:47 GMT
It’s been mentioned on here sadly
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Post by Gods on Mar 23, 2024 19:48:12 GMT
Watching England v Brazil, I like the England shorts, I think I shall procure a pair!
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Post by henry on Mar 23, 2024 22:39:41 GMT
Bad publicity won’t sell shirts though mate🤔 Im just surprised the flag isn’t the rainbow one in the society we live in nowadays No such thing as bad publicity when it's free. At the eye-watering price they are being sold at, they're never going to exactly fly off the shelves, but I'll be amazed if it doesn't sell more than the last version did after all this nonsense. There really is.
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Post by 4doorsaloon on Mar 23, 2024 23:17:10 GMT
Not looked back through the 9 pages. Bur one thing other than the flag that sticks out…. Is 2 black models in the home and away kit.. what’s that all about?
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Post by Ron on Mar 23, 2024 23:25:14 GMT
Can this be shit binned??
Utterly pathetic topic of conversation.
People need to get a grip.
The real scandal is the cost of the shirt.
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Post by foster on Mar 23, 2024 23:39:42 GMT
Can this be shit binned?? Utterly pathetic topic of conversation. People need to get a grip. The real scandal is the cost of the shirt. Admin, the great Ron has spoken. Please proceed with granting his wishes.
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Post by nsd on Mar 24, 2024 0:22:50 GMT
Not looked back through the 9 pages. Bur one thing other than the flag that sticks out…. Is 2 black models in the home and away kit.. what’s that all about? you're right, I've never seen a black person play for, or even live in, England. what a load of woke bollocks.
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Post by phileetin on Mar 24, 2024 6:29:13 GMT
no need to be sarcastic , hes referring to the goal keeper kit , and i can't remember an ethnic keeper in goal for england.
sorry , just remembered ..... david james ?
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Post by nsd on Mar 24, 2024 11:04:12 GMT
'ethnic'. fucking hell.
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Post by skip on Mar 24, 2024 16:04:45 GMT
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Post by Malcolm Clarke on Mar 24, 2024 20:57:49 GMT
I'd like to ask Mr Malcom Clark what the err supporters thing that he is heavily involved in think and could they organise a petition outlining the cost of production including shipping costs, taxes and profits to whomever against the overall price of outrageously overpriced football shirt. We did issue a statement about the absurd, eye-watering cost of the new England kit thefsa.org.uk/news/fsa-statement-england-kit-prices/We have always been more concerned about ticket prices than kit prices for obvious reasons - you need a ticket to watch the match, you don't need a replica shirt.
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Post by enuntio on Mar 25, 2024 9:45:40 GMT
I'm thinking that if the F.A. could charge a monthly subscription for watching England and wearing a replica top, then they would...
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Post by PotterLog on Mar 25, 2024 17:47:30 GMT
Bit of a bugbear about the price thing.. every single complaint I've seen about this, including the FSA statement above, quotes the prices £119 and £125 - these are *not* the prices you have to pay for a shirt! For a replica shirt like one that any of us have ever bought - now rebranded as a "stadium" shirt - the prices are £85 for adults and £65 for kids. They've just brought in these rip-off "match shirts" for people who want the "athlete's version" with the hi-tech fabric and ventilation and whatnot. But they look as good as identical, and I'd assume the vast majority sold will be the stadium replica version that's always been sold in the shops.
Argue that's still extortionate, sure, there's good reason to, but let's be honest about what you actually have to pay to get one of them.
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Post by Veritas on Mar 25, 2024 17:50:16 GMT
Bit of a bugbear about the price thing.. every single complaint I've seen about this, including the FSA statement above, quotes the prices £119 and £125 - these are *not* the prices you have to pay for a shirt! For a replica shirt like one that any of us have ever bought - now rebranded as a "stadium" shirt - the prices are £85 for adults and £65 for kids. They've just brought in these rip-off "match shirts" for people who want the "athlete's version" with the hi-tech fabric and ventilation and whatnot. But they look as good as identical, and I'd assume the vast majority sold will be the stadium replica version that's always been sold in the shops. Argue that's still extortionate, sure, there's good reason to, but let's be honest about what you actually have to pay to get one of them. You are correct the lower prices are still extortionate
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Post by skip on Mar 25, 2024 18:23:17 GMT
Not defending the price point but if you want a half decent t-shirt that is well cut, made of a quality gauge of cotton and will last longer than a dozen washes, you're looking at £30, so double that for a garment with shed loads of detail and I can see why they cost what they do. And a Fred Perry will set you back £75 to say nothing of other brands that actually design their clothing. The problem we have is the mirage of cheap clothing. Fast fashion, like fast food has completely warped our sense of cost.
I don't agree with the price, if that requires repeating.
What was the full price cost of a Stoke shirt this season? Asking because I haven't bought a replica shirt for myself in years so I don't even think about the price.
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Mar 25, 2024 18:36:32 GMT
Not defending the price point but if you want a half decent t-shirt that is well cut, made of a quality gauge of cotton and will last longer than a dozen washes, you're looking at £30, so double that for a garment with shed loads of detail and I can see why they cost what they do. And a Fred Perry will set you back £75 to say nothing of other brands that actually design their clothing. The problem we have is the mirage of cheap clothing. Fast fashion, like fast food has completely warped our sense of cost. I don't agree with the price, if that requires repeating. What was the full price cost of a Stoke shirt this season? Asking because I haven't bought a replica shirt for myself in years so I don't even think about the price. About £50 I think
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Post by Seymour Beaver on Mar 25, 2024 19:13:09 GMT
When it comes to kids shirts there should be a £5 limit. No child should be denied the opportunity ti get into sport by running around the garden or the park pretending to be one of their heroes.
When comes to adults the more expensive the better. In fact £500 is too cheap.
It's punitive pricing designed to discourage you from making yourself look a complete tit.
Anyone still not getting the message can at least console themselves that they're subsidising their grandchildren.
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Post by mrnovember on Mar 26, 2024 7:56:54 GMT
I've written to the FA to throw my support behind this. I've told them to ignore the flag shagging nazis, and thier bigoted outrage masquerading as patriotism. The very same people stole my beloved blue and stars away from me 16 years ago. They took my European essence and denied me my lived experience as a continental quaffor. Never mind, me and my chosen birthing person still proudly fly the EC emblem from the pole in our wild-eco garden at the front of our small, rural 7 bed. It's made from the finest Turkish cotton, hand woven in Morocco and I had it shipped next day.
I've also suggested that a Palestine flag adorning the sleeve and perhaps a silhouette of George Floyd in place of the three racist lions could be good additions in future to further our ambitions to unite and inspire.
Talking of George Floyd, remember when those flag shagging, symbol loving Nazis threw a strawberry munch bunch all over the beautiful mural of him in Manchester city centre? Is there anything worse than throwing heated bacterial milk at a wall that contains a hand drawn image of a convicted criminal? Fucking symbol loving flag shaggers.
Anyway, I'm off to topple the statue of a long dead slaver I've been ignorantly strolling past for 15 years.
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Post by Malcolm Clarke on Mar 26, 2024 10:55:49 GMT
I'm fine with the colour scheme for the cross itself. Once you gum a cross on a blue background rather than a white one it's not a cross of St George anyway. Having said that I shan't be procuring a shirt so I don't really have a vote. Exactly. And, as Southgate said, it isn't even the flag. It's a motif using the shape of the cross from the flag, just as on previous shirts the cross has been dark green on a light green background, and dark red on a light red background, and sometimes the shape of the cross has been altered. Its been whipped up to be something it isn't by some media and some politicians and political groups. It's not disrespecting the flag. Neither is it anything "woke", although personally I would have no problem if it was in the rainbow colours, which would look quite nice and give a nod to our nation's and our game's diversity. But I certainly won't be buying one at that price !
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Post by skip on Mar 26, 2024 11:59:14 GMT
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Post by Malcolm Clarke on Mar 26, 2024 13:41:17 GMT
I'm fine with the colour scheme for the cross itself. Once you gum a cross on a blue background rather than a white one it's not a cross of St George anyway. Having said that I shan't be procuring a shirt so I don't really have a vote. Exactly. And, as Southgate said, it isn't even the flag. It's a motif using the shape of the cross from the flag, just as on previous shirts the cross has been dark green on a light green background, and dark red on a light red background, and sometimes the shape of the cross has been altered. Its been whipped up to be something it isn't by some media and some politicians and political groups. It's not disrespecting the flag. Neither is it anything "woke", although personally I would have no problem if it was in the rainbow colours, which would look quite nice and give a nod to our nation's and our game's diversity. But I certainly won't be buying one at that price ! I should add that next time the FA should follow Stoke City’s example and consult the fans. I attended the fans assembly to design the 25/26 kit and thought it was very well done. In fact the FA itself now requires Clubs to demonstrate that they have consulted fans before the FA will approve a change of crest, so it should practice for a new kit what it preaches for the crest, although in this case it’s the 3 Lions which is the crest, not the cross. Talking of 3 Lions, when I was on FA Council we were all issued with a blazer with the 3 Lions badge. When they changed the badge, we all got a brand new blazer ! When I looked at mine, it reminded me of the children’s game where you have to spot the differences between two identical looking pictures ! I think I eventually noticed that the lions’ toenails were a bit longer in the new one 😂 - and that’s not too much of an exaggeration 😂. I think they’ve probably now stopped issuing blazers ! Not sure what to do with my two 🤔
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Post by jesusmcmuffin on Mar 26, 2024 13:55:40 GMT
Exactly. And, as Southgate said, it isn't even the flag. It's a motif using the shape of the cross from the flag, just as on previous shirts the cross has been dark green on a light green background, and dark red on a light red background, and sometimes the shape of the cross has been altered. Its been whipped up to be something it isn't by some media and some politicians and political groups. It's not disrespecting the flag. Neither is it anything "woke", although personally I would have no problem if it was in the rainbow colours, which would look quite nice and give a nod to our nation's and our game's diversity. But I certainly won't be buying one at that price ! I should add that next time the FA should follow Stoke City’s example and consult the fans. I attended the fans assembly to design the 25/26 kit and thought it was very well done. In fact the FA itself now requires Clubs to demonstrate that they have consulted fans before the FA will approve a change of crest, so it should practice for a new kit what it preaches for the crest, although in this case it’s the 3 Lions which is the crest, not the cross. Talking of 3 Lions, when I was on FA Council we were all issued with a blazer with the 3 Lions badge. When they changed the badge, we all got a brand new blazer ! When I looked at mine, it reminded me of the children’s game where you have to spot the differences between two identical looking pictures ! I think I eventually noticed that the lions’ toenails were a bit longer in the new one 😂 - and that’s not too much of an exaggeration 😂. I think they’ve probably now stopped issuing blazers ! Not sure what to do with my two 🤔 In the days of Swap Shop you could have exchanged then for a game of Ker Plunk or some Mini Rolls which of course were bigger in those days. I remember TC telling me that the FAI were so mean they didn't even issue caps very often to players ..he got 3 or 4 for all the games he played ..30 odd think it was. I would hang on to the blazers in case they ever do a Ted Croker or Graham Kelly line up on Never Mind the Buzzcocks and you'd be a shoe in as you have your own gear
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Post by werrington on Mar 26, 2024 19:27:44 GMT
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Post by Davef on Mar 26, 2024 19:41:23 GMT
We'll be wearing it when the Germans knock us out in the quarters or semis.
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Post by snoogle on Mar 26, 2024 20:49:50 GMT
I'm fine with the colour scheme for the cross itself. Once you gum a cross on a blue background rather than a white one it's not a cross of St George anyway. Having said that I shan't be procuring a shirt so I don't really have a vote. Exactly. And, as Southgate said, it isn't even the flag. It's a motif using the shape of the cross from the flag, just as on previous shirts the cross has been dark green on a light green background, and dark red on a light red background, and sometimes the shape of the cross has been altered. Its been whipped up to be something it isn't by some media and some politicians and political groups. It's not disrespecting the flag. Neither is it anything "woke", although personally I would have no problem if it was in the rainbow colours, which would look quite nice and give a nod to our nation's and our game's diversity. But I certainly won't be buying one at that price ! Absolute horse 💩 . Of course it’s the flag! It’s suddenly not become the flag since Nike and the FA got wind of the bad press around it and peddled a different narrative ! If you are a Gammon or a woke It’s still blatantly a recoloured flag …
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Post by atillathehoneybee on Mar 26, 2024 21:13:58 GMT
I like this black kit they are wearing tonight...
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Post by bayernoatcake on Mar 26, 2024 21:20:53 GMT
It looks the same colour as some charcoal ice cream I ate in a Michelin star restaurant one time. 🤣
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Post by madnellie on Mar 26, 2024 21:22:57 GMT
Nice little Stoke mention there, too.
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Post by jesusmcmuffin on Mar 26, 2024 21:27:54 GMT
It looks the same colour as some charcoal ice cream I ate in a Michelin star restaurant one time. 🤣 You sure it wasn't a vending machine in Kwik Fit with a Michelin sign outside?
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