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Post by lordb on Mar 12, 2024 13:27:49 GMT
Never understood the 'what came first ' thing that people get in a muddle about
Obviously the egg came first with a different creature having the egg, because that's how evolution works
Or is it because some people still don't accept the theory of evolution?
Any other phrases or sayings that don't make much sense?
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Post by dirtygary69 on Mar 12, 2024 13:42:27 GMT
May he who hath branded the cow, let the cow brandeth the punishment.
Never got that one.
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Post by elystokie on Mar 12, 2024 13:50:44 GMT
In order to get us to concentrate one of our teachers used to say 'you can't do two things at once' it's troubled me ever since.
I used to think about it every Saturday morning when I was having a shit and reading my comics 🤔
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Post by flea79 on Mar 12, 2024 13:51:07 GMT
a camel is a horse designed by committee, never understood that one
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Post by Clayton Wood on Mar 12, 2024 14:17:00 GMT
Never understood the 'what came first ' thing that people get in a muddle about Obviously the egg came first with a different creature having the egg, because that's how evolution works Or is it because some people still don't accept the theory of evolution? Any other phrases or sayings that don't make much sense? The cockerel come first, obviously. |
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Post by marylandstoke on Mar 12, 2024 15:02:59 GMT
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Post by danceswithclams on Mar 12, 2024 15:25:45 GMT
Never fuck a gay horse in the mouth.
Why would you want to fuck any horse in the mouth, regardless of its sexual orientation?
Mad.
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Post by PotterLog on Mar 12, 2024 15:37:26 GMT
Never understood the 'what came first ' thing that people get in a muddle about Obviously the egg came first with a different creature having the egg, because that's how evolution works That's really not how evolution works  |
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Post by superjw on Mar 12, 2024 15:43:29 GMT
What came first was the creature that the chicken evolved from…
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Post by lawrieleslie on Mar 12, 2024 16:17:49 GMT
My Granny from Shelton always looked forward to Satdee lunchtimes when me a Dad visited before a Stoke home game. On arriving at her house in Darnley Street, I’d always ask her what’s for lunch Grandma? To which she’d answer, without fail, it’s jam & herrin's today. It never was of course but has anybody ever eaten jam & herrings? And where does that even come from, Grandma was Potteries born and bred.
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Post by lordb on Mar 12, 2024 17:59:40 GMT
Never understood the 'what came first ' thing that people get in a muddle about Obviously the egg came first with a different creature having the egg, because that's how evolution works That's really not how evolution works Well... |
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Post by noustie on Mar 12, 2024 18:15:44 GMT
Do ursidae excrete within a wooded panorama?
They shit where they want mate - they're fucking massive!
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Post by PotterLog on Mar 12, 2024 18:22:47 GMT
That's really not how evolution works Well... I mean flippancy aside, you're demonstrating why the riddle works.. it's not possible for a creature to give birth to (or lay an egg bearing) a "different creature". Species reproduce and create more of the same species, that's why the chicken and egg thing is confounding. |
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Post by Paul Spencer on Mar 12, 2024 19:00:52 GMT
My Granny from Shelton always looked forward to Satdee lunchtimes when me a Dad visited before a Stoke home game. On arriving at her house in Darnley Street, I’d always ask her what’s for lunch Grandma? To which she’d answer, without fail, it’s jam & herrin's today. It never was of course but has anybody ever eaten jam & herrings? And where does that even come from, Grandma was Potteries born and bred. My nan used to put jam on her kippers, I think she said it helped her to swallow the bones. |
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Mar 12, 2024 21:59:09 GMT
I quite like chicken and egg together, with a few chips and grilled tomato😀
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Post by auntiegeorge on Mar 12, 2024 22:24:18 GMT
My Granny from Shelton always looked forward to Satdee lunchtimes when me a Dad visited before a Stoke home game. On arriving at her house in Darnley Street, I’d always ask her what’s for lunch Grandma? To which she’d answer, without fail, it’s jam & herrin's today. It never was of course but has anybody ever eaten jam & herrings? And where does that even come from, Grandma was Potteries born and bred. That piqued my interest. I'll ask a good friend of mine, Terry Wooliscroft, who is an expert on the Potteries dialect and get back to you. His potbank dictionary is very well known: potbankdictionary.blogspot.com |
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Post by elystokie on Mar 12, 2024 22:29:19 GMT
My Granny from Shelton always looked forward to Satdee lunchtimes when me a Dad visited before a Stoke home game. On arriving at her house in Darnley Street, I’d always ask her what’s for lunch Grandma? To which she’d answer, without fail, it’s jam & herrin's today. It never was of course but has anybody ever eaten jam & herrings? And where does that even come from, Grandma was Potteries born and bred. Whenever my mate asked his dad what was for tea his dad always answered 'pigs dick and lettuce' he was the only person I ever heard use the phrase. |
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Post by PotterLog on Mar 12, 2024 22:34:56 GMT
My Granny from Shelton always looked forward to Satdee lunchtimes when me a Dad visited before a Stoke home game. On arriving at her house in Darnley Street, I’d always ask her what’s for lunch Grandma? To which she’d answer, without fail, it’s jam & herrin's today. It never was of course but has anybody ever eaten jam & herrings? And where does that even come from, Grandma was Potteries born and bred. My nan used to put jam on her kippers, I think she said it helped her to swallow the bones. Sure that’s the opening line to a Jake Thackray song |
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Post by Paul Spencer on Mar 12, 2024 22:40:05 GMT
My nan used to put jam on her kippers, I think she said it helped her to swallow the bones. Sure that’s the opening line to a Jake Thackray song Yes, I can hear it, perfect! 👏 |
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Post by svengaliinplatforms on Mar 12, 2024 23:13:20 GMT
My Mum used to use the phrase 'Jam & Herrings', thankfully I never had to try them.
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Post by CBUFAWKIPWH on Mar 13, 2024 10:18:42 GMT
I mean flippancy aside, you're demonstrating why the riddle works.. it's not possible for a creature to give birth to (or lay an egg bearing) a "different creature". Species reproduce and create more of the same species, that's why the chicken and egg thing is confounding. Actually yes it is. One of the reasons creatures evolve is as a result of DNA copying errors at the point of fertilization so offspring are different to their parents. The changes are usually small and incremental and the variations that offer some greater survival potential get retained as a result of natural selection. At some point a proto chicken produced an egg that hatched the first of the species we now call chicken. In terms of the fossil record the change happened over many years and nobody has ever identified that first chicken but at some point it happened. If species only produced their own how did new species come into being? |
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Post by PotterLog on Mar 13, 2024 11:22:36 GMT
I mean flippancy aside, you're demonstrating why the riddle works.. it's not possible for a creature to give birth to (or lay an egg bearing) a "different creature". Species reproduce and create more of the same species, that's why the chicken and egg thing is confounding. Actually yes it is. One of the reasons creatures evolve is as a result of DNA copying errors at the point of fertilization so offspring are different to their parents. The changes are usually small and incremental and the variations that offer some greater survival potential get retained as a result of natural selection. At some point a proto chicken produced an egg that hatched the first of the species we now call chicken. In terms of the fossil record the change happened over many years and nobody has ever identified that first chicken but at some point it happened. If species only produced their own how did new species come into being? Because the changes are incredibly incremental and happen over many thousands of generations. There’s no eureka moment when a creature leaps from one species to another in one generation. |
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Post by mickeythemaestro on Mar 13, 2024 11:26:33 GMT
I quite like chicken and egg together, with a few chips and grilled tomato😀 I can handle boiled egg on a chicken sandwich. But I could never have a fried runny egg on the same plate as hot chicken. Just seems so wrong 🙃 |
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Post by metalhead on Mar 13, 2024 15:08:53 GMT
"You can't have your cake and eat it too..."
Why not? What else would you do with a cake? With the exception of having a lady of the night jumping out the middle of one on a stag do, I cannot think of any other more useful function of a cake... than eating it.
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Post by elystokie on Mar 13, 2024 15:15:05 GMT
I quite like chicken and egg together, with a few chips and grilled tomato😀 I can handle boiled egg on a chicken sandwich. But I could never have a fried runny egg on the same plate as hot chicken. Just seems so wrong 🙃 I've thought about this when I've been in Asia, they have no issues at all putting egg on the same plate as chicken there but it's rarely seen in UK dishes 🤷🏻 |
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Mar 13, 2024 16:05:10 GMT
I can handle boiled egg on a chicken sandwich. But I could never have a fried runny egg on the same plate as hot chicken. Just seems so wrong 🙃 I've thought about this when I've been in Asia, they have no issues at all putting egg on the same plate as chicken there but it's rarely seen in UK dishes 🤷🏻 Love a fried egg with a chicken leg with crispy skin. Yum yum🤤 |
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Post by mickmillslovechild on Mar 13, 2024 16:31:00 GMT
Actually yes it is. One of the reasons creatures evolve is as a result of DNA copying errors at the point of fertilization so offspring are different to their parents. The changes are usually small and incremental and the variations that offer some greater survival potential get retained as a result of natural selection. At some point a proto chicken produced an egg that hatched the first of the species we now call chicken. In terms of the fossil record the change happened over many years and nobody has ever identified that first chicken but at some point it happened. If species only produced their own how did new species come into being? Because the changes are incredibly incremental and happen over many thousands of generations. There’s no eureka moment when a creature leaps from one species to another in one generation. To be fair, I think it may be all getting a bit unnecessarily deep here.... I'm pretty sure the OP was just referring to the fact that there were eggs of other species before chickens even existed i.e. reptilian eggs etc. and laying eggs is an evolutionary trait chickens have adapted to, rather than them being the creator of the first egg |
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Post by lordb on Mar 13, 2024 17:00:19 GMT
Because the changes are incredibly incremental and happen over many thousands of generations. There’s no eureka moment when a creature leaps from one species to another in one generation. To be fair, I think it may be all getting a bit unnecessarily deep here.... I'm pretty sure the OP was just referring to the fact that there were eggs of other species before chickens even existed i.e. reptilian eggs etc. and laying eggs is an evolutionary trait chickens have adapted to, rather than them being the creator of the first egg More interested in the sayings we use when they don't really mean what we use them for the having your cake one being the best example |
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Post by PotterLog on Mar 13, 2024 17:02:03 GMT
Because the changes are incredibly incremental and happen over many thousands of generations. There’s no eureka moment when a creature leaps from one species to another in one generation. To be fair, I think it may be all getting a bit unnecessarily deep here.... I'm pretty sure the OP was just referring to the fact that there were eggs of other species before chickens even existed i.e. reptilian eggs etc. and laying eggs is an evolutionary trait chickens have adapted to, rather than them being the creator of the first egg Yes but the thread has evolved 😉 |
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Post by mickmillslovechild on Mar 13, 2024 17:08:33 GMT
To be fair, I think it may be all getting a bit unnecessarily deep here.... I'm pretty sure the OP was just referring to the fact that there were eggs of other species before chickens even existed i.e. reptilian eggs etc. and laying eggs is an evolutionary trait chickens have adapted to, rather than them being the creator of the first egg Yes but the thread has evolved 😉 👏🤣 that made me chuckle far too much! |
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