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Post by mickmillslovechild on Mar 13, 2024 17:13:32 GMT
To be fair, I think it may be all getting a bit unnecessarily deep here.... I'm pretty sure the OP was just referring to the fact that there were eggs of other species before chickens even existed i.e. reptilian eggs etc. and laying eggs is an evolutionary trait chickens have adapted to, rather than them being the creator of the first egg More interested in the sayings we use when they don't really mean what we use them for the having your cake one being the best example I think someone mentioned on here the other day that "Pulling yourself up by your own bootstraps" actually originally meant something that is literally impossible to achieve and was certainly not meant in the way we now commonly use it at all i.e. just achieving something yourself, without help
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Post by Clayton Wood on Mar 13, 2024 17:30:04 GMT
Cheap at half the price.
Well, yes it would be, unless it was 4 times the price in the first place then it wouldn't be cheap at half the price as it would still be twice the price...err or something.
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Post by PotterLog on Mar 13, 2024 18:32:18 GMT
More interested in the sayings we use when they don't really mean what we use them for the having your cake one being the best example I think someone mentioned on here the other day that "Pulling yourself up by your own bootstraps" actually originally meant something that is literally impossible to achieve and was certainly not meant in the way we now commonly use it at all i.e. just achieving something yourself, without help Like it. Makes more sense. Maybe got bastardised/confused with “pull your socks up” somewhere along the way…
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Post by lordb on Mar 13, 2024 18:56:30 GMT
Cheap at half the price. Well, yes it would be, unless it was 4 times the price in the first place then it wouldn't be cheap at half the price as it would still be twice the price...err or something. Indeed expensive at half the price would make sense
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Post by PotterLog on Mar 13, 2024 20:57:16 GMT
Cheap at half the price. Well, yes it would be, unless it was 4 times the price in the first place then it wouldn't be cheap at half the price as it would still be twice the price...err or something. Indeed expensive at half the price would make sense I think the original phrase is supposed to be cheap at twice the price isn’t it
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Post by lordb on Mar 13, 2024 21:34:27 GMT
Indeed expensive at half the price would make sense I think the original phrase is supposed to be cheap at twice the price isn’t it Ah
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Post by Clayton Wood on Mar 13, 2024 22:15:54 GMT
Indeed expensive at half the price would make sense I think the original phrase is supposed to be cheap at twice the price isn’t it cheap at half the priceit is possibly a corruption of "cheap at twice the price," meaning the same. Well, I'll go to the foot of our stairs. Hang on a min
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Post by hotterpotter on Mar 13, 2024 22:40:40 GMT
Really weird how the incorrect phrase "The proof is in the pudding" has become so widespread.
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Post by scottzbj on Mar 14, 2024 5:43:11 GMT
"You can't have your cake and eat it too..." Why not? What else would you do with a cake? With the exception of having a lady of the night jumping out the middle of one on a stag do, I cannot think of any other more useful function of a cake... than eating it. Yeah. That one always bothered me. I guess it means that you can’t eat your cake and still have it but it’s stupid. What about “Well go to the bottom of my steps”? A teacher said that to me once and I had no idea what she was talking about.
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Post by CBUFAWKIPWH on Mar 14, 2024 7:34:18 GMT
Actually yes it is. One of the reasons creatures evolve is as a result of DNA copying errors at the point of fertilization so offspring are different to their parents. The changes are usually small and incremental and the variations that offer some greater survival potential get retained as a result of natural selection. At some point a proto chicken produced an egg that hatched the first of the species we now call chicken. In terms of the fossil record the change happened over many years and nobody has ever identified that first chicken but at some point it happened. If species only produced their own how did new species come into being? Because the changes are incredibly incremental and happen over many thousands of generations. There’s no eureka moment when a creature leaps from one species to another in one generation. Yes you are right. The egg came first. It just wasn't a chicken that laid it. But taking the egg/egg laying creature dilemma back before chickens evolved there is still the question as to whether the egg came first or the egg laying creature. I'm going for egg laying creature but the first egg laying creature didn't come from an egg laid by another creature.
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Post by Northy on Mar 14, 2024 16:51:44 GMT
Never understood the 'what came first ' thing that people get in a muddle about Obviously the egg came first with a different creature having the egg, because that's how evolution works That's really not how evolution works The egg is basically another form of egg from the ovaries which evolved into one with a hard shell, enabling evolution of semi aquatic animals to move further away from their watery lifestyle, the animals first evolved to lay eggs then the semi aquatic animals evolution into the egg laying dinosaurs and birds.
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Post by lawrieleslie on Mar 14, 2024 17:14:38 GMT
My Granny from Shelton always looked forward to Satdee lunchtimes when me a Dad visited before a Stoke home game. On arriving at her house in Darnley Street, I’d always ask her what’s for lunch Grandma? To which she’d answer, without fail, it’s jam & herrin's today. It never was of course but has anybody ever eaten jam & herrings? And where does that even come from, Grandma was Potteries born and bred. That piqued my interest. I'll ask a good friend of mine, Terry Wooliscroft, who is an expert on the Potteries dialect and get back to you. His potbank dictionary is very well known: potbankdictionary.blogspot.comHaha loving the blog. My favourite 2 potteries speak.. 1. Up 'anley duck 2. Dunner werrit I often use the second on my Janner (Plymothian) grandkids.
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