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Post by spiderpuss on Mar 6, 2024 19:44:23 GMT
Thought the second yellow was a joke, somebody throwing themselves to the floor during a challenge is just pathetic. That said, Ben is just prone to collecting cards from the second he's on the pitch. You can see why the manager is using other options. Will he be here next season? Not if Shuey is, would be my thinking. We can't get rid of him, because of his extensive contract, and because who will buy a player that is suspended half the time. However, Schuhmacher sounded sort of sympathetic to him after the game. He might try and be the one manager who can stop Pearson from getting into trouble. I wish him luck in that endeavour... Good point, maybe there's always some idiot who rocks up with cash to burn. I wish him luck too, he must cut out the kicking the ball away nonsense. The first is an "easy" one for the ref and just plain dumb from Pearson.
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Post by tuum on Mar 6, 2024 23:52:25 GMT
We can't get rid of him, because of his extensive contract, and because who will buy a player that is suspended half the time. However, Schuhmacher sounded sort of sympathetic to him after the game. He might try and be the one manager who can stop Pearson from getting into trouble. I wish him luck in that endeavour... Good point, maybe there's always some idiot who rocks up with cash to burn. I wish him luck too, he must cut out the kicking the ball away nonsense. The first is an "easy" one for the ref and just plain dumb from Pearson. Was he booked for kicking the ball away? It wasn't that obvious in my opinion and I saw two Leeds defenders do exactly the same thing previously by sticking the ball into the crowd to give them a few more seconds to get organised. The ref didn't think that was an issue. I thought he was booked for his part in the scufffle. The Ref did what most refs do in those situations and booked both players since this is always the path of least resistance despite the fact that the Leeds player was the instigator and by far the more aggressive in the situation. I am no Pearson fan but having seen the incidents again I think I will cut him some slack. As for not buying into the project I have seen no evidence of that. Last night when he came on I thought his contribution was positive and he looked tidy....until he got sent off. On the whole when he has come on as sub recently he has been ok. Not great, but ok. I agree that he needs to cut this daft stuff out of his game. No need to give refs an opportunity. Pearson doesn't stike me as a 'hard' man in the traditional sense of the word I think he is just a bloke with an anger management problem.
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Post by whatsashig on Mar 7, 2024 0:18:19 GMT
So his he a more of a ‘put your arm round him’ or ‘vent spleen’, former is my guess.
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Post by rowbeartoe on Mar 7, 2024 2:37:41 GMT
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Post by jokker on Mar 7, 2024 5:40:11 GMT
We can't get rid of him, because of his extensive contract, and because who will buy a player that is suspended half the time. However, Schuhmacher sounded sort of sympathetic to him after the game. He might try and be the one manager who can stop Pearson from getting into trouble. I wish him luck in that endeavour... Good point, maybe there's always some idiot who rocks up with cash to burn. I wish him luck too, he must cut out the kicking the ball away nonsense. The first is an "easy" one for the ref and just plain dumb from Pearson. You can always hope that Alex Neil gets another job, prederably with a rich club, and will want to have his favourite "son" back. Because if anyone knows to get the best out of Pearson, and there's a good player in there somewhere, it must be Neil, who's signed him three times already.
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Post by thisisouryear on Mar 7, 2024 6:40:21 GMT
Look at how many games he's played though, it's a ridiculous record. How can someone like him be good in a dressing room? He will always let his teammates down. He's a talented player but not worth the hassle
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Post by jokker on Mar 7, 2024 7:28:27 GMT
Will Pearson be inspired to want to move to the top of the charts
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Post by Pugsley on Mar 7, 2024 8:15:59 GMT
Pathetic record. Our marquee signing.... get him gone.
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Post by musik on Mar 7, 2024 10:25:52 GMT
Sell
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Post by bertiestan on Mar 7, 2024 10:50:12 GMT
Fucking hell that’s a bit damning🙄🔴⚪️
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Post by PotterLog on Mar 7, 2024 10:52:37 GMT
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Post by moon on Mar 7, 2024 11:08:04 GMT
He'll do it before the season is out if he gets back on the pitch.
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Post by jesusmcmuffin on Mar 7, 2024 11:14:42 GMT
Give me Joe Allen over Ben Pearson all day long Is a reason Joe Allen played for Liverpool and Bournemouth didn't want Pearson
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Post by mickstupp on Mar 7, 2024 11:25:17 GMT
In significantly fewer games. Impressive.
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Post by xchpotter on Mar 7, 2024 11:40:54 GMT
I don't mind if a player gets red or yellows for proper fouls.... at least they are where they need to be. However, many of Pearson's have contained daft ones all related to ill discipline such as kicking the ball away, throwing it at opponents, gobbing off and twatting about behind hoardings. He is far from the enforcer type we needed and is soft as muck, just tries to give it the big I am. If we could get rid then do do so as he's a liability, but we are lumbered with the wages and contract.
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Post by davethebass on Mar 7, 2024 13:03:52 GMT
I think you might be confusing two incidents. Can't be sure but at first I thought it was Wilmot in trouble as James had just run into him and gone down like a stack of cards. Then I saw a red after the yellow and Pearson walking and knew I'd missed something. Annoyingly of course you don't get a replay on red button but on the highlights there was definitely a block by Pearson off the ball as Leeds were breaking. It looked like a definite yellow to me. Can't talk about Pearson's first yellow as I didn't see what he did and it wasn't in the highlights. Some seem to be saying it was for kicking the ball away, should be yellow isn't always. Others say it was for putting his head into another player's, again usually a yellow but isn't always given. Although in some cases a player might not have got carded twice in those situations, by the letter of the law the ref was correct. It's in the extended highlights now, at 8:34 and on. Still looks soft as hell to me, and I can't see him do anything else either. The ball was with their no.4 and Cundled tackled the ball back straight into the box and Iversen. Edit: You can see Pearson asking the ref 4-5 times "What for?" and he just walks on with a smug face ignoring him. No wonder refs in England have no respect. They're arrongant wankers. I think that's a fair point regards referees, a lot of them do seem to be arrogant. They say rugby players are more respectful of referees than football players, but it cuts both ways, I think rugby referees are more respectful of the players, they always explain their decisions clearly, stating what they think they saw. Would be good if football referees were more like that.
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Post by luke2u on Mar 7, 2024 13:10:21 GMT
Many wanted him signed years before he arrived, and I said he's a walking yellow or red card, so I don't want him.
Finally most agree now.
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Post by jesusmcmuffin on Mar 7, 2024 13:14:47 GMT
Many wanted him signed years before he arrived, and I said he's a walking yellow or red card, so I don't want him. Finally most agree now. I wanted Harry Arter for years A player only his owns fans could love but what we lacked
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Post by spitthedog on Mar 7, 2024 14:44:27 GMT
There is something definitely wrong with him up top.
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Post by bertiestan on Mar 7, 2024 14:50:00 GMT
Many wanted him signed years before he arrived, and I said he's a walking yellow or red card, so I don't want him. Finally most agree now. I wanted Harry Arter for years A player only his owns fans could love but what we lacked Harry fucking Arter🤦🏼♂️ bloody hell muff
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Post by RipRoaringPotter on Mar 7, 2024 15:03:30 GMT
How much is Matt Mills going for?
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Post by bertiestan on Mar 7, 2024 15:08:48 GMT
How much is Matt Mills going for? More clubs than tiger woods🔴⚪️
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Post by jesusmcmuffin on Mar 7, 2024 15:14:40 GMT
I wanted Harry Arter for years A player only his owns fans could love but what we lacked Harry fucking Arter🤦🏼♂️ bloody hell muff Not now Back in the day He was Pearson but a better player and far sneakier
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Post by jokker on Mar 7, 2024 15:43:28 GMT
Harry fucking Arter🤦🏼♂️ bloody hell muff Not now Back in the day He was Pearson but a better player and far sneakier I remember Arter well - and though he never played for one of my clubs, I quite liked him, perhaps especially because he'd managed to get so far with so little talent. It's probably true he was less obvious with his fouling than Ben, but he was definitely not a better player. You look at clips with Pearson in them that shows immense skill and trickery, and you have to wonder why isn't he playing in the PL, perhaps not the very top, but at a club like Brighton or Villa? Yet the sad truth is that a few Bournemouth games apart, he's spent his entire senior career in lower league football. Whereever he goes from here, the sooner the better, that's unlikely to change for the better.
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Post by stantheman on Mar 7, 2024 16:05:12 GMT
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Post by shakermaker on Mar 7, 2024 16:41:07 GMT
Interestingly, 3 of the players on that list have played under Alex Neil. Coincidence?
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Post by bertiestan on Mar 7, 2024 17:33:59 GMT
Interestingly, 3 of the players on that list have played under Alex Neil. Coincidence? I’d say so shaker🔴⚪️
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Post by tuum on Mar 7, 2024 18:23:59 GMT
Look at how many games he's played though, it's a ridiculous record. How can someone like him be good in a dressing room? He will always let his teammates down. He's a talented player but not worth the hassle Agree.Since he has been here his bookings have been for petulant nonsense rather than 'proper' fouls. It happens too often and he does let the team down with his behaviour on the pitch.
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Post by thisisouryear on Mar 7, 2024 19:59:29 GMT
Look at how many games he's played though, it's a ridiculous record. How can someone like him be good in a dressing room? He will always let his teammates down. He's a talented player but not worth the hassle Agree.Since he has been here his bookings have been for petulant nonsense rather than 'proper' fouls. It happens too often and he does let the team down with his behaviour on the pitch. The problem is with players on a yellow is they don't give 100% when you are out of possession because they can't. He's on a yellow all the time and in the position he plays it's not good enough. He's the most unprofessional footballer we have ever signed, he doesn't deserve to be called a professional footballer because he's anything but
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Post by ferryside on Mar 8, 2024 2:32:56 GMT
Agree.Since he has been here his bookings have been for petulant nonsense rather than 'proper' fouls. It happens too often and he does let the team down with his behaviour on the pitch. The problem is with players on a yellow is they don't give 100% when you are out of possession because they can't. He's on a yellow all the time and in the position he plays it's not good enough. He's the most unprofessional footballer we have ever signed, he doesn't deserve to be called a professional footballer because he's anything but Agree about the yellow but the rest is a tad harsh. He was a quality player at youth level and man utd youth level at that. Ten years ago he was knocking at the door of their first team. Not saying he's anywhere near Keane/Scholes but he has that intensity and they were players he would have looked upto. He's just a bit of an old school blood and thunder type and thats not so easy in the modern game. With feigning of injuries all over the pitch and referees that now take issue with any kind of insubordination. He's always had a reputation for picking up cards so its part of who he is. Seems to have rediscovered his mojo under Neil only to see his ambition of playing in the premier fall away under a new manager after helping get Bournemouth there. Then rejoins Neil, a manager who got decent games out of him, only for that to fall away again. Easy to see how that may have frustrated him, being a main man then go back on the bench. I think Neil said he's the type of player who needs regular games and to build relationships around him just a bit introverted. He made some quality interceptions and passing that showed real vision on Saturday. I think he just needs to get his head straight and settle again in his largely new surroundings. If he can do that tbere is definitely a quality player in there. It's as if he's trying too hard and getting frustrated with himself and his situation. If we have a manager that can get into his head over time then he's capable of being up there with the best midfielders in this division. When he is humming his intensity is the kind of thing that can inspire those around him. In fact there may have been some frustration with his teammates.
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