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Post by Staffsoatcake on Mar 18, 2024 11:39:19 GMT
Of course its our fault,everyone at the club is crap at their jobs,because supporters keep spending their hard earned money on attending week in week out,no matter how bad it is.
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Post by StokieDJC on Mar 18, 2024 11:47:03 GMT
Of course its all your fault you bunch of useless fucks playing 5 at the back when its shown to fail time and time again.
Also what did you bunch of raging melons sign Cundle and Ennis for?
Oh and don't get me started on your managerial recruitment from the DoF downwards.
You all keep turning up, spending your hard earned money when finances are difficult for a lot of people as it is, deciding whether to have the heating on today or not. Constantly fucking things up.
You lot wouldn't know a days work or struggle if it came and slapped you in the face. Try doing a few hours training in state of the art gyms and football pitches for free 4 days a week, you would never cope with being paid thousands a week for doing something you love.
Shithouses the lot of ya!
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Post by Eggybread on Mar 18, 2024 11:57:21 GMT
Of course its all your fault you bunch of useless fucks playing 5 at the back when its shown to fail time and time again. Also what did you bunch of raging melons sign Cundle and Ennis for? Oh and don't get me started on your managerial recruitment from the DoF downwards. You all keep turning up, spending your hard earned money when finances are difficult for a lot of people as it is, deciding whether to have the heating on today or not. Constantly fucking things up. You lot wouldn't know a days work or struggle if it came and slapped you in the face. Try doing a few hours training in state of the art gyms and football pitches for free 4 days a week, you would never cope with being paid thousands a week for doing something you love. Shithouses the lot of ya! Kepp on telling someone they are shit (whether they are or are not) and they will eventually believe and become shit.
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Post by StokieDJC on Mar 18, 2024 12:00:25 GMT
Of course its all your fault you bunch of useless fucks playing 5 at the back when its shown to fail time and time again. Also what did you bunch of raging melons sign Cundle and Ennis for? Oh and don't get me started on your managerial recruitment from the DoF downwards. You all keep turning up, spending your hard earned money when finances are difficult for a lot of people as it is, deciding whether to have the heating on today or not. Constantly fucking things up. You lot wouldn't know a days work or struggle if it came and slapped you in the face. Try doing a few hours training in state of the art gyms and football pitches for free 4 days a week, you would never cope with being paid thousands a week for doing something you love. Shithouses the lot of ya! Kepp on telling someone they are shit (whether they are or are not) and they will eventually believe and become shit. The support overall has been superb for what garbage they have been put through, a few cheers and boo's is nothing in comparison to what's been on display.
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Post by jesusmcmuffin on Mar 18, 2024 12:02:47 GMT
Have many said it was the fans fault? Not seen that personally
The home and away crowds have been excellent considering
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Post by banksy1art on Mar 18, 2024 12:03:28 GMT
Surely you won’t play better when you’re playing in a toxic environment and being boo’d. Just my opinion. They were boo’d off after our first home defeat of the season, even though this is pretty much a whole new squad. These players weren’t part of the last 5-6 years of shite so no need to project it on them, it will do no good
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Post by rowleyscfc on Mar 18, 2024 12:05:30 GMT
Agree 100%, Must be demoralising as fuck Why not work harder to get a move away then? We're no better or worse than any other supporters. Pointing the finger of blame to the supporters is wrong in my opinion. Not everyone's the same though? if I'm having a Stinker on a Sunday personally I need some encouragement, if I'm getting slagged off I'll just think fuck em I won't even bother putting the effort in. Different strokes for different folks
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Post by Eggybread on Mar 18, 2024 12:10:06 GMT
Agree 100%, Must be demoralising as fuck Why not work harder to get a move away then? We're no better or worse than any other supporters. Pointing the finger of blame to the supporters is wrong in my opinion. "We're no better or worse than any other supporters." I personally think we are worse a lot worse.Campbell as bad as he was on Saturday must think fuck it and fuck you after the abuse he got.Its toxic.
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Post by jesusmcmuffin on Mar 18, 2024 12:13:26 GMT
Why not work harder to get a move away then? We're no better or worse than any other supporters. Pointing the finger of blame to the supporters is wrong in my opinion. "We're no better or worse than any other supporters." I personally think we are worse a lot worse.Campbell as bad as he was on Saturday must think fuck it and fuck you after the abuse he got.Its toxic. Was a cheer when he was rightly subbed after a lacklustre effort Wouldn't call that Toxic
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Post by anchorman on Mar 18, 2024 12:18:19 GMT
Of course its all your fault you bunch of useless fucks playing 5 at the back when its shown to fail time and time again. Also what did you bunch of raging melons sign Cundle and Ennis for? Oh and don't get me started on your managerial recruitment from the DoF downwards. You all keep turning up, spending your hard earned money when finances are difficult for a lot of people as it is, deciding whether to have the heating on today or not. Constantly fucking things up. You lot wouldn't know a days work or struggle if it came and slapped you in the face. Try doing a few hours training in state of the art gyms and football pitches for free 4 days a week, you would never cope with being paid thousands a week for doing something you love. Shithouses the lot of ya! Absolutely spot on! Call yourself supporters?!!! And the state of the country isn’t the fault of the people at the top either, of course it’s not, how could it be…that’s the fault of anyone who isn’t English, is from a different country or culture…it’s their fault that the country is fucked, the NHS is underfunded, you can’t get an NHS dentist, 35% of children live in poverty, foodbanks are thriving & services non existent….or the fault of those that continually place an X in a box for the c****……bit like continually turning up season after season supporting and remaining as quiet as a mouse as we repeatedly get abused time and time again. Both are the actions of what we have become, a Nation of boot lickers & a support base that really does know its place.
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Post by Eggybread on Mar 18, 2024 12:21:08 GMT
"We're no better or worse than any other supporters." I personally think we are worse a lot worse.Campbell as bad as he was on Saturday must think fuck it and fuck you after the abuse he got.Its toxic. Was a cheer when he was rightly subbed after a lacklustre effort Wouldn't call that Toxic Never mentiohed the substitution, he was getting slated by all and sundry when he was playing and he must have heard.Yes he was shit I totally get it,but is he going to play any better next time? Will booing /sarcastic cheering improve his confidence and over all play?
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Post by middleoftheboothen on Mar 18, 2024 12:37:50 GMT
Was a cheer when he was rightly subbed after a lacklustre effort Wouldn't call that Toxic Never mentiohed the substitution, he was getting slated by all and sundry when he was playing and he must have heard.Yes he was shit I totally get it,but is he going to play any better next time? Will booing /sarcastic cheering improve his confidence and over all play? Agree that it probably doesn't help but if it were me I'd give it everything to prove everyone booing me that they are wrong to do it. Everyone is different obviously but when they are getting paid as much as they are they should really take the rough with the smooth. As I say not everyone will look at it that way which is fair enough.
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Post by jesusmcmuffin on Mar 18, 2024 12:40:56 GMT
Never mentiohed the substitution, he was getting slated by all and sundry when he was playing and he must have heard.Yes he was shit I totally get it,but is he going to play any better next time? Will booing /sarcastic cheering improve his confidence and over all play? Agree that it probably doesn't help but if it were me I'd give it everything to prove everyone booing me that they are wrong to do it. Everyone is different obviously but when they are getting paid as much as they are they should really take the rough with the smooth. As I say not everyone will look at it that way which is fair enough. Absolutely Some criticised Clucas when he shushed the crowd and scored but would rather that any day over a player ambling around waiting for the Summer
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Post by middleoftheboothen on Mar 18, 2024 12:45:17 GMT
Agree that it probably doesn't help but if it were me I'd give it everything to prove everyone booing me that they are wrong to do it. Everyone is different obviously but when they are getting paid as much as they are they should really take the rough with the smooth. As I say not everyone will look at it that way which is fair enough. Absolutely Some criticised Clucas when he shushed the crowd and scored but would rather that any day over a player ambling around waiting for the Summer Exactly mate. If Campbell scored in every game until the end of the season and shushed the crowd I don't think it would bother me to be honest.
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Post by biddulphchav on Mar 18, 2024 13:54:33 GMT
"We're no better or worse than any other supporters." I personally think we are worse a lot worse.Campbell as bad as he was on Saturday must think fuck it and fuck you after the abuse he got.Its toxic. Was a cheer when he was rightly subbed after a lacklustre effort Wouldn't call that Toxic See this is the trouble though isn’t it. We see players getting booed when playing well / on a poor run of form, or just generally disliked by a large number of fans. Campbell is a good example. My own experience of this is it definitely knocks your confidence - I know these guys are professionals but they are human beings too. We have every right to be annoyed / angry / disappointed with his performances but does the slagging off during and after the game help get the best out of him? How is that what anyone would call ‘support’? I do think we are worse than some other fans, having been to a few grounds around the country. It’s certainly not helping, and there is something in the fact that our away record has been better than our home one for ages.
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Post by jesusmcmuffin on Mar 18, 2024 14:16:59 GMT
Was a cheer when he was rightly subbed after a lacklustre effort Wouldn't call that Toxic See this is the trouble though isn’t it. We see players getting booed when playing well / on a poor run of form, or just generally disliked by a large number of fans. Campbell is a good example. My own experience of this is it definitely knocks your confidence - I know these guys are professionals but they are human beings too. We have every right to be annoyed / angry / disappointed with his performances but does the slagging off during and after the game help get the best out of him? How is that what anyone would call ‘support’? I do think we are worse than some other fans, having been to a few grounds around the country. It’s certainly not helping, and there is something in the fact that our away record has been better than our home one for ages. Are teams far better than us giving players and managers abuse Cooper at Leeds has been getting stick from a section of fans, Bamford also Was an ironic cheer when he didn't take the penalty the other week I think our fans in general will appreciate a player putting in an effort. Obviously can't speak for all . We all have players we aren't fans of but you'd have to have issues if you want them to play poorly to prove a point. You may have noticed my dislike for Pearson but never wish him a bad game. I wish he was the player we had in loan but he isn't. We have those who after several minutes of a game can't wait for their boo boy to fail to control a ball or blame a keeper for a goal they had little chance with because they have an agenda Personally never booed our own player. Felt like doing it when Wilkinson was sent off v Man U for example and cost us a possible point, some amazingly applauded him .
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Post by Miles Offside on Mar 18, 2024 18:36:37 GMT
When we play like we did Saturday, and like we have for much of the last few years, it's not because of the fans, or Jon Coates, or the fact that we don't have a DOF.
It's because of the manager's bizarre team selection, formation and tactics, coupled with the players' inability (or can't be arsed attitude) to do their jobs.
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Post by potters11 on Mar 18, 2024 18:46:00 GMT
"We're no better or worse than any other supporters." I personally think we are worse a lot worse.Campbell as bad as he was on Saturday must think fuck it and fuck you after the abuse he got.Its toxic. Was a cheer when he was rightly subbed after a lacklustre effort Wouldn't call that Toxic It felt pretty toxic to me at that moment (Campbell couldn’t wait to get off as he knew what was coming), but considering how much patience we’ve had as fans it’s nothing short of a miracle that this type of thing hasn’t happened more regularly. The fans are the last people to blame
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Post by pushon on Mar 18, 2024 20:25:43 GMT
'The Fans' are a collection of individuals and not a homogenised mass. Many on here don't have the same opinion and many are not interested in the opinions of others.
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Post by stokiedan17 on Mar 18, 2024 20:39:04 GMT
Never mentiohed the substitution, he was getting slated by all and sundry when he was playing and he must have heard.Yes he was shit I totally get it,but is he going to play any better next time? Will booing /sarcastic cheering improve his confidence and over all play? Agree that it probably doesn't help but if it were me I'd give it everything to prove everyone booing me that they are wrong to do it. Everyone is different obviously but when they are getting paid as much as they are they should really take the rough with the smooth. As I say not everyone will look at it that way which is fair enough. I think given how much they paid I think it becomes even easier for them to go fuck it and half arse it. Who are they playing for ? It’s the majority of the players first season. They have no connection to the area. No real connection or passion to the club and no connection to the fans. So if you were a player getting paid thousands on a comfy contract are you going to try 100% for fans who jeer, moan, groan boo, cheer when you get subbed. Personally if I was in a new job getting paid that kind of wage and had no connection to the place and felt in a Shite toxic atmosphere( which it can definitely be) I’d think fuck it see the year out and find a new place… which many of these can do
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Post by middleoftheboothen on Mar 18, 2024 20:45:28 GMT
Agree that it probably doesn't help but if it were me I'd give it everything to prove everyone booing me that they are wrong to do it. Everyone is different obviously but when they are getting paid as much as they are they should really take the rough with the smooth. As I say not everyone will look at it that way which is fair enough. I think given how much they paid I think it becomes even easier for them to go fuck it and half arse it. Who are they playing for ? It’s the majority of the players first season. They have no connection to the area. No real connection or passion to the club and no connection to the fans. So if you were a player getting paid thousands on a comfy contract are you going to try 100% for fans who jeer, moan, groan boo, cheer when you get subbed. Personally if I was in a new job getting paid that kind of wage and had no connection to the place and felt in a Shite toxic atmosphere( which it can definitely be) I’d think fuck it see the year out and find a new place… which many of these can do I agree with alot of that mate but we were talking specifically about Campbell who has been here a number of years so you would hope he has some sort of loyalty. If not loyalty then a sort of I'll prove myself until the end of the season to get the best move I can type attitude.
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Post by hooftastic on Mar 18, 2024 20:56:39 GMT
Campbell is playing to not get injured (ahead of his new contract elsewhere), not to score or help pull us away from trouble.
No amount of shocking performances or booing him off is going to change any of that. So boo away, or don't.
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Post by thehoof on Mar 18, 2024 21:16:25 GMT
Was a cheer when he was rightly subbed after a lacklustre effort Wouldn't call that Toxic Never mentiohed the substitution, he was getting slated by all and sundry when he was playing and he must have heard.Yes he was shit I totally get it,but is he going to play any better next time? Will booing /sarcastic cheering improve his confidence and over all play? When was the last time he actually played well? He has given up even trying to head a ball, he’s scared of his own shadow and is usually blowing out of his arse after two or three sprints. Of course, if everyone stopped moaning at him, he’d no doubt become an absolute star- I’m just wondering why he couldn’t perform to any half decent level last season or the first half of this season, when nobody was getting booed on or off the pitch.
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Post by biddulphchav on Mar 19, 2024 12:43:18 GMT
When we play like we did Saturday, and like we have for much of the last few years, it's not because of the fans, or Jon Coates, or the fact that we don't have a DOF. It's because of the manager's bizarre team selection, formation and tactics, coupled with the players' inability (or can't be arsed attitude) to do their jobs. I agree, but it’s not only the managers tactics is it? That’s a bit simplistic when we are looking at one of the worst home records in England over the last 3-4 years. Why are we so shit at home? Are all our managers constantly getting it really badly wrong? I don’t think so, I think the atmosphere has a part to play, we’ve changed the manager; all the players, practically all the staff, everything really but still shit.
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Post by biddulphchav on Mar 19, 2024 12:46:24 GMT
Never mentiohed the substitution, he was getting slated by all and sundry when he was playing and he must have heard.Yes he was shit I totally get it,but is he going to play any better next time? Will booing /sarcastic cheering improve his confidence and over all play? When was the last time he actually played well? He has given up even trying to head a ball, he’s scared of his own shadow and is usually blowing out of his arse after two or three sprints. Of course, if everyone stopped moaning at him, he’d no doubt become an absolute star- I’m just wondering why he couldn’t perform to any half decent level last season or the first half of this season, when nobody was getting booed on or off the pitch. Don’t think anyone is saying he’d become a world beater, and it’s not just about Campbell. We’ve consistently underperformed (given the players we have) for years. We’ve changed everything, literally, but we still have one of the worst home records in the country. Do you not think the atmosphere at the ground has a part to play in that? Of course the players have got to put in the effort - not saying we should accept anything, but what’s the solution?
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Post by citynickscfc on Mar 19, 2024 16:47:15 GMT
I still blame Dave Kitson.
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Post by Ron on Mar 19, 2024 17:01:50 GMT
If the players perform and we play purposeful football with a plan then the fans would get behind the team. We haven’t come back from behind since god knows when.
The fans do their best. But how long can you get behind complete ineptitude?
Sick of this cropping up.
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Post by Mint Berry Barks on Mar 19, 2024 18:10:28 GMT
The club are lucky that any fucker is sane enough to turn up each week, given how mismanaged we've been for years from top to bottom.
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Post by a on Mar 19, 2024 18:58:27 GMT
It’s only the fans fault when we lose it seems…
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