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Post by wizardofdrivel on Dec 23, 2023 19:28:34 GMT
Some absolutely laughable comments on here, surprise surprise. The new man has had three days with this squad but his card has already been marked by some.
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Post by mickeythemaestro on Dec 23, 2023 19:28:59 GMT
Neil's football was umpteenth times better than what I saw today. You've dug your hole and now you've got to justify it wingy. That was awful, truly awful. You have to be a on the windup. no other explanation, it’s pretty pathetic. The reason you think Neil’s football was ‘umpteenth times better’ is because what you saw today was us actually have a go. Youre arguing with Alex Neil pal. Or at the very least his missus 😆 |
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Post by vidigal7 on Dec 23, 2023 19:30:52 GMT
That was a poor standard of football I thought, i didnt think it was anything like as organised as Neil's. At times Neil's football was good, high tempo and high press like we meant it, we could string passes together and half looked like we had a game plan, the movement of players/ positioning also better I thought. I'll take a lot of convincing to change my belief we were a couple of windows away from a decent team moving forwards under Alex. Hopefully that showing today is a very confused bunch of players adjusting or we're in deep shit I think we've been watching different things. Sheffield Wednesday, was the worst game I've probably ever watched, and that was under Neil. There's been loads of dross over the past 12 months. For the record, I'm firmly in the camp that more than half of our players are not good enough, for a club wanting to make a challenge in this league. We are definatly watching different things then, because Millwall were absolute tripe and we matched them for every pace. That was a very useful first fixture for Steven, we'd have got slapped today against anybody with an ounce of pace, Millwall couldn't even counter as they offered nothing at all |
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Post by clarkeda on Dec 23, 2023 19:33:33 GMT
You have to be a on the windup. no other explanation, it’s pretty pathetic. The reason you think Neil’s football was ‘umpteenth times better’ is because what you saw today was us actually have a go. No sorry you're wrong here, that was awful to watch, we played like a division 3 outfit. I know you're trying to reassure yourself and it's understandable but it was crap I think the fact you are very clearly in the minority here suggests it might be you that’s trying to reassure yourself, which is understandable considering how much of a lob on you had for AN. The first half was horrendous, however after the subs it was a marked difference. |
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Post by clarkeda on Dec 23, 2023 19:34:33 GMT
You have to be a on the windup. no other explanation, it’s pretty pathetic. The reason you think Neil’s football was ‘umpteenth times better’ is because what you saw today was us actually have a go. Youre arguing with Alex Neil pal. Or at the very least his missus 😆 Only explanation. |
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Post by vidigal7 on Dec 23, 2023 19:35:55 GMT
No sorry you're wrong here, that was awful to watch, we played like a division 3 outfit. I know you're trying to reassure yourself and it's understandable but it was crap I think the fact you are very clearly in the minority here suggests it might be you that’s trying to reassure yourself, which is understandable considering how much of a lob on you had for AN. The first half was horrendous, however after the subs it was a marked difference. No no no, you're entitled to your opinion and I'm entitled to mine. That was crap and if it doesn't improve sharpish we're in big trouble. |
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Post by chiprockets on Dec 23, 2023 19:41:37 GMT
No sorry you're wrong here, that was awful to watch, we played like a division 3 outfit. I know you're trying to reassure yourself and it's understandable but it was crap I think the fact you are very clearly in the minority here suggests it might be you that’s trying to reassure yourself, which is understandable considering how much of a lob on you had for AN. The first half was horrendous, however after the subs it was a marked difference. whats the saying...? don't argue with idiots, they drag you down to their level and beat you with experience |
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Post by Block 26 on Dec 23, 2023 19:43:42 GMT
The first half was absolutely shocking. 2nd half we were by far the better side… with better finishing, we win today.
I’m not sure what I think of SS as of yet but he’s had 3 days with the squad. Hopefully he will do well & turn this club around.
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Post by vidigal7 on Dec 23, 2023 19:46:47 GMT
I think the fact you are very clearly in the minority here suggests it might be you that’s trying to reassure yourself, which is understandable considering how much of a lob on you had for AN. The first half was horrendous, however after the subs it was a marked difference. whats the saying...? don't argue with idiots, they drag you down to their level and beat you with experience I'll tell it how I see it. Dave Regis today was lost for words today. At HT he was asked, so what do you think then Dave, after a brief pause he said ( and i quote) " I think they'll be slightly delighted with that" . ... Slightly delighted with what Dave? We were playing Millwall? |
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Post by andystokey on Dec 23, 2023 20:03:22 GMT
whats the saying...? don't argue with idiots, they drag you down to their level and beat you with experience I'll tell it how I see it. Dave Regis today was lost for words today. At HT he was asked, so what do you think then Dave, after a brief pause he said ( and i quote) " I think they'll be slightly delighted with that" . ... Slightly delighted with what Dave? We were playing Millwall? So you don't actually go to the matches then? |
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Dec 23, 2023 20:10:44 GMT
whats the saying...? don't argue with idiots, they drag you down to their level and beat you with experience I'll tell it how I see it. Dave Regis today was lost for words today. At HT he was asked, so what do you think then Dave, after a brief pause he said ( and i quote) " I think they'll be slightly delighted with that" . ... Slightly delighted with what Dave? We were playing Millwall? So you weren’t actually at the game then🤔 |
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Post by vidigal7 on Dec 23, 2023 20:12:43 GMT
I'll tell it how I see it. Dave Regis today was lost for words today. At HT he was asked, so what do you think then Dave, after a brief pause he said ( and i quote) " I think they'll be slightly delighted with that" . ... Slightly delighted with what Dave? We were playing Millwall? So you don't actually go to the matches then? I did do, I'm sick of keep changing managers and this never ending cycle of change managers, change players, get nowhere, rinse and repeat. Said earlier in the week I don't agree with the change I was fully prepared to sit through another couple of windows under Neil, you can't expect anyone to bring in 18 and be oven ready punching, especially without a pre-season. I thought Neil's football was very watchable but needed a few more components to see the best of it. They can show me for the time being that money is well spent, personally I don't think he's the right man, others disagree, thete is no hiding place though because the games are going to come quick and fast |
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Dec 23, 2023 20:16:33 GMT
So you don't actually go to the matches then? I did do, I'm sick of keep changing managers and this never ending cycle of change managers, change players, get nowhere, rinse and repeat. Said earlier in the week I don't agree with the change I was fully prepared to sit through another couple of windows under Neil, you can't expect anyone to bring in 18 and be oven ready punching, especially without a pre-season. I thought Neil's football was very watchable but needed a few more components to see the best of it. They can show me for the time being that money is well spent, personally I don't think he's the right man, others disagree, thete is no hiding place though because the games are going to come quick and fast Utterly laughable,you’re definitely on a wind up🤣no one is that thick |
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Post by vidigal7 on Dec 23, 2023 20:19:25 GMT
I did do, I'm sick of keep changing managers and this never ending cycle of change managers, change players, get nowhere, rinse and repeat. Said earlier in the week I don't agree with the change I was fully prepared to sit through another couple of windows under Neil, you can't expect anyone to bring in 18 and be oven ready punching, especially without a pre-season. I thought Neil's football was very watchable but needed a few more components to see the best of it. They can show me for the time being that money is well spent, personally I don't think he's the right man, others disagree, thete is no hiding place though because the games are going to come quick and fast Utterly laughable,you’re definitely on a wind up🤣no one is that thick No wind up mate, there was nothing wrong with Neil or his football, we needed a couple of more windows, I've watched plenty of decent halves of football this season against decent teams, it was very much work in progress. No, for the time being I'm not Vidigal7 I'm 'IPTV ME' |
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Post by pavel on Dec 23, 2023 20:21:07 GMT
I did do, I'm sick of keep changing managers and this never ending cycle of change managers, change players, get nowhere, rinse and repeat. Said earlier in the week I don't agree with the change I was fully prepared to sit through another couple of windows under Neil, you can't expect anyone to bring in 18 and be oven ready punching, especially without a pre-season. I thought Neil's football was very watchable but needed a few more components to see the best of it. They can show me for the time being that money is well spent, personally I don't think he's the right man, others disagree, thete is no hiding place though because the games are going to come quick and fast Utterly laughable,you’re definitely on a wind up🤣no one is that thick He’s a Neil fan, through and through, I wouldn’t bother engaging with him. He’s been found out for what he is time and time again. Just as you say a poor man’s wind up merchant. |
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Post by vidigal7 on Dec 23, 2023 20:24:05 GMT
Utterly laughable,you’re definitely on a wind up🤣no one is that thick He’s a Neil fan, through and through, I wouldn’t bother engaging with him. He’s been found out for what he is time and time again. Just as you say a poor man’s wind up merchant. It's a really poor offering that, I've been a Stoke fan for decades but now I'm a Neil fan, it doesn't wash. I'm not paying to sit through 'another' rebuild & gelling period. It's a farce, I invested in a vision this last summer and back to square one we go, it's not on |
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Post by smallthorner on Dec 23, 2023 20:26:33 GMT
Only because Schumacher was turning round telling him what to do🤷♂️ As for the football being friggin woeful🤔what did you expect him to do after 2 training sessions?and by the way I thought we played well in the 2nd half and deserved to win for sure. We could carry on all night mate but SS looked a little shocked with PG according to me. Have a good Xmas 👍 Gally is going to be the real coach in this setup. |
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Post by mickeythemaestro on Dec 23, 2023 20:33:05 GMT
He’s a Neil fan, through and through, I wouldn’t bother engaging with him. He’s been found out for what he is time and time again. Just as you say a poor man’s wind up merchant. It's a really poor offering that, I've been a Stoke fan for decades but now I'm a Neil fan, it doesn't wash. I'm not paying to sit through 'another' rebuild & gelling period. It's a farce, I invested in a vision this last summer and back to square one we go, it's not on Neil had lost the plot as well as the dressing room and most of the fans. He had to go. JC had no choice. We need to get behind Schumacher and hope we don't need a total rebuild. Just a few additions and departures. 2nd half Schumacher showed more bollox with his subs than AN ever showed in his whole time here. You wanted AN to be given a chance and he got 16 months. So get behind Schumacher if you're a Stoke fan and wish him well 👍 |
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Post by swandog73 on Dec 23, 2023 20:37:28 GMT
It was nice to see Steven Schumacher being animated on the line, not just stood with hands in pocket! Arms waving about, pointing and whistling. Glad we didn't lose, didn't deserve it, think Brum will be tough? Not expecting much there, nor Ipswich. I really like junior and haks. Very forward thinking, surprised how poor Millwall are! UTMP.
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Post by telfordstokie on Dec 23, 2023 20:52:54 GMT
Grasping at straws a bit but even with our terrible run and no win in nine, we’re still four points above the bottom three. You have to be absolutely shocking to get relegated from this division - it’s a low bar but confident we will stay up under Schumacher even if it is going to be a grind for a while.
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Post by firfuxache on Dec 23, 2023 21:20:15 GMT
You’re an angry person aren’t you? No... far from it actually. I'm the most moderate lovely person. Seriously. I'm just letting off steam and frustration at the pile of steaming shit we have accumulated at our Club. That includes management and directors. More or less sixty years to the day since my first match and I can honestly say I've never been more disappointed in our club. And with sixty years experience behind you I’d have thought you’d have given a new manager more than 3 days with a total bunch of stranger to him a little more breathing space. |
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Post by smallthorner on Dec 23, 2023 21:23:18 GMT
It's a really poor offering that, I've been a Stoke fan for decades but now I'm a Neil fan, it doesn't wash. I'm not paying to sit through 'another' rebuild & gelling period. It's a farce, I invested in a vision this last summer and back to square one we go, it's not on Neil had lost the plot as well as the dressing room and most of the fans. He had to go. JC had no choice. We need to get behind Schumacher and hope we don't need a total rebuild. Just a few additions and departures. 2nd half Schumacher showed more bollox with his subs than AN ever showed in his whole time here. You wanted AN to be given a chance and he got 16 months. So get behind Schumacher if you're a Stoke fan and wish him well 👍 Reckon every Stoke fan will get behind Steven and wish him well. If people express their opinions on him then that is healthy and proper... If you want a totalarian state football forum then fuck off up Dynamo Moscow 🙃 |
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Post by firfuxache on Dec 23, 2023 21:26:39 GMT
Neil's football was umpteenth times better than what I saw today. You've dug your hole and now you've got to justify it wingy. That was awful, truly awful. Do you do a 1 man stand up show, cuz your a comedian I hope not, comedians are funny by definition. This guy certainly ain’t. |
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Post by mickeythemaestro on Dec 23, 2023 21:32:30 GMT
Neil had lost the plot as well as the dressing room and most of the fans. He had to go. JC had no choice. We need to get behind Schumacher and hope we don't need a total rebuild. Just a few additions and departures. 2nd half Schumacher showed more bollox with his subs than AN ever showed in his whole time here. You wanted AN to be given a chance and he got 16 months. So get behind Schumacher if you're a Stoke fan and wish him well 👍 Reckon every Stoke fan will get behind Steven and wish him well. If people express their opinions on him then that is healthy and proper... If you want a totalarian state football forum then fuck off up Dynamo Moscow 🙃 Not sure i said I want a totalitarian state football forum chief. You've come into a conversation I've been having with someone else for weeks. You've missed the point. Calm yourself down. |
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Dec 23, 2023 21:32:35 GMT
Was it just me who thought Sarkic looked very commanding in everything he did today?
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Post by smallthorner on Dec 23, 2023 21:36:45 GMT
No... far from it actually. I'm the most moderate lovely person. Seriously. I'm just letting off steam and frustration at the pile of steaming shit we have accumulated at our Club. That includes management and directors. More or less sixty years to the day since my first match and I can honestly say I've never been more disappointed in our club. And with sixty years experience behind you I’d have thought you’d have given a new manager more than 3 days with a total bunch of stranger to him a little more breathing space. I will my friend. Just absolutely naffed off what a pile of rubbish we have accumulated and in my humble opinion a bang average manager. Aren't you a bit tired of the rebuild mantra? Because this shower will not get us promoted. Smallbone been a big miss. Laurent .. I would bench him . Captain? Wesley.. Mama with clogs on Rose.. row the boat. Leris.. garbage Mmaee.. ditto Hoever...WIP Vidigal.. crybaby with potential. Burger.. flatters to deceive DJ... past it. Stevens...past it Bonham...League 1/2 keeper I'm worried. Please tell me I shouldn't be. |
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Post by smallthorner on Dec 23, 2023 21:38:23 GMT
Reckon every Stoke fan will get behind Steven and wish him well. If people express their opinions on him then that is healthy and proper... If you want a totalarian state football forum then fuck off up Dynamo Moscow 🙃 Not sure i said I want a totalitarian state football forum chief. You've come into a conversation I've been having with someone else for weeks. You've missed the point. Calm yourself down. Sorry. |
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Post by stiggerstackle on Dec 23, 2023 21:47:42 GMT
Was it just me who thought Sarkic looked very commanding in everything he did today? Yeah I thought Sarkic (bar 2 dodgy kicks) looked very composed and came for everything. Very commanding. |
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Post by idle on Dec 23, 2023 21:57:35 GMT
Must be something about "must play if available" in Hoevers loan contract. I can't fathom anything else! Hoever doesn't bring anything to the team at the moment! Why he is the main man on set pieces is another mystery to me as all his corner kicks are really dreadful!  To be fair, all our corner takers are equally dreadful... 3 corners today straight into the keepers arms, from Hoever, Vidigal and Junho |
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Post by stokiekm on Dec 23, 2023 22:34:26 GMT
So you don't actually go to the matches then? I did do, I'm sick of keep changing managers and this never ending cycle of change managers, change players, get nowhere, rinse and repeat. Said earlier in the week I don't agree with the change I was fully prepared to sit through another couple of windows under Neil, you can't expect anyone to bring in 18 and be oven ready punching, especially without a pre-season. I thought Neil's football was very watchable but needed a few more components to see the best of it. They can show me for the time being that money is well spent, personally I don't think he's the right man, others disagree, thete is no hiding place though because the games are going to come quick and fast Talk about being owned... So you go to the game, sit behind the dugout, conveniently in earshot of the bench, manage to both watch the game and lip read the coaches (even though you claim to be sat behind them) and still have time to listen to the radio feed or watch on stream whilst there? Methinks as well as being a wind up you're also a liar who doesn't go to games |
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