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Post by CBUFAWKIPWH on Dec 13, 2023 15:18:52 GMT
Or, a few more have been tempted because he was put in at 9/1. Surely they have to move these odds around to stimulate interest? So, how does it work, I don't think it's entirely 'where the money is going' but even if it mostly is, isn't it manipulated to indicate something going on which might not be? Let's hope something is going on here, because this one would get the juices flowing. It's quite possible a Wolves fan put a bet on Nuno to take the piss, a load of Stoke fans took the bait and the bookies reduced the odds to reduce their losses in the unlikely event of it actually happening but knowing that people would carry on placing bets because they've made it look like something is happening which will only encourage more people to chuck their money at something they would like to see happen. In fact that Wolves fan is probably a bookie. Scattered among the actual candidates their will be several names who are nowhere near actual candidates just as groundbait for punters. The actual odds on what will happen isn't put out by the bookies.
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Post by shakermaker on Dec 13, 2023 15:20:09 GMT
Before anyone gets excited about Nuno, he is a firm three-at-the-back merchant. First and foremost, we need that left-footed centre-back as well as a LWB and a strong forward to fit into his system (Mmaee just isn't going to cut it in Nuno's style). I also don't care if he brings in a load of Tugas if they have the same quality as Jota and Moutinho. Firm three at the back merchant that pissed the league then took them to Europe, the last 8 of that btw, and there highest league finish in 40 years, and a fa cup final to boot, sign me up Yup! Three-at-the-back or not, the fact is that in the Championship, he succeeded the dour Paul Lambert who finished 15th the previous season, and after a summer overhaul had them go up as champions. No better evidence of someone who can take a brand-new squad and make it perform. That was, as you say, followed by two successive 7th place finishes in the Premier League. If a top drawer manager like Nuno has indeed applied off his own back, that is fucking big news!
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Post by walrus on Dec 13, 2023 15:22:07 GMT
Not sure why folks has NES down as "great football", he's a defensive-minded 3-4-3/3-5-2 merchant who plays with a low block?! It's a very weird jump from the recruitment, and consistency angle. The Wolves fans I know were grateful but didn't like the football much. It would be classically inconsistent Stoke. They didn’t like winning the league with 99 points much? His team was brilliant in the Championship.
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Post by dirtygary69 on Dec 13, 2023 15:22:18 GMT
Two of the more interesting names in Nuno and Jokanovic, but not sure either would set the pulse racing. Nuno isn't a sexy football man and if he was called Nigel Edward Smithson I don't think the love-in would be quite so great. That said, I don't really care about sexy football as long as someone can come in and turn us around and he undoubtedly got an excellent spirit and togetherness going whilst at Wolves.
Jokanovic seems like a bit of a loose cannon. We'd appoint him and he'd resign within months because something didn't go his way.
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Post by caine on Dec 13, 2023 15:22:36 GMT
Right who ever is betting on Nuno stop it! Stop getting us all excited for nothing
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Post by eddyclamp on Dec 13, 2023 15:22:46 GMT
Andre Vidigal likes this 😁 And Wesley no doubt Who is this Lee fella??
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Post by vinnyoverson on Dec 13, 2023 15:22:55 GMT
For those who want to read a bit more on the man who might* become our next manager www.coachesvoice.com/my-idea/*probably not but we can speculate
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Post by spitthedog on Dec 13, 2023 15:23:05 GMT
Firm three at the back merchant that pissed the league then took them to Europe, the last 8 of that btw, and there highest league finish in 40 years, and a fa cup final to boot, sign me up Yup! Three-at-the-back or not, the fact is that in the Championship, he succeeded the dour Paul Lambert who finished 15th the previous season, and after a summer overhaul had them go up as champions. No better evidence of someone who can take a brand-new squad and make it perform. That was, as you say, followed by two successive 7th place finishes in the Premier League. If a top drawer manager like Nuno has indeed applied off his own back, that is fucking big news! I find it difficult to believe tbh. He can get a top job in Europe easily you would imagine.
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Post by Billy the kid on Dec 13, 2023 15:25:15 GMT
Nuno would be my pick of all of that list
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Post by stokeykez on Dec 13, 2023 15:25:45 GMT
Before anyone gets excited about Nuno, he is a firm three-at-the-back merchant. First and foremost, we need that left-footed centre-back as well as a LWB and a strong forward to fit into his system (Mmaee just isn't going to cut it in Nuno's style). I also don't care if he brings in a load of Tugas if they have the same quality as Jota and Moutinho. Mmaee wouldn’t make it at the Dog and Duck in this country. He’s not worthy of consideration. Good job the window opens in 3 weeks then
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Post by stokeykez on Dec 13, 2023 15:26:47 GMT
It's a very weird jump from the recruitment, and consistency angle. The Wolves fans I know were grateful but didn't like the football much. It would be classically inconsistent Stoke. They didn’t like winning the league with 99 points much? His team was brilliant in the Championship. I would take.anyone who romped the league like they did
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Post by stokeykez on Dec 13, 2023 15:27:20 GMT
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Post by eddyclamp on Dec 13, 2023 15:28:44 GMT
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Post by spoton on Dec 13, 2023 15:30:12 GMT
Nuno would be my pick of all of that list Yes if he sends Hoever back
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Post by baconburger on Dec 13, 2023 15:32:44 GMT
Mmaee wouldn’t make it at the Dog and Duck in this country. He’s not worthy of consideration. Good job the window opens in 3 weeks then It does but we’re stuck with these shit forwards they won’t be going anywhere unfortunately.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 13, 2023 15:33:46 GMT
Firm three at the back merchant that pissed the league then took them to Europe, the last 8 of that btw, and there highest league finish in 40 years, and a fa cup final to boot, sign me up Yup! Three-at-the-back or not, the fact is that in the Championship, he succeeded the dour Paul Lambert who finished 15th the previous season, and after a summer overhaul had them go up as champions. No better evidence of someone who can take a brand-new squad and make it perform. That was, as you say, followed by two successive 7th place finishes in the Premier League. If a top drawer manager like Nuno has indeed applied off his own back, that is fucking big news! 3 at the back is fine if you play with intensity and aggression. We miss these no matter what formation we play. No idea why a man who has been at Porto, Wolves, Spurs and is currently sitting at home happy after being ridiculously overpaid in Saudi would decide that Stoke is a good place to go. If he fails at Stoke, his next set of offers would be relegation fodder Championship teams. Why would he bother?
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Post by GallysGuitar on Dec 13, 2023 15:33:54 GMT
The Wolves fans I know adore him, and for good reason. Promotion, two seventh-placed Prem finishes, FA Cup semi-final, Europa League quarters.
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Post by bhp on Dec 13, 2023 15:33:58 GMT
He literally didn't get the job through playing Football Manager 🤣 studied coaching since he left school and been involved in management at professional clubs since 2017. Got Reims massively over achieving. I highly doubt Coates would take the gamble though but looks like Sunderland may do. But yet had zero coaching badges when he started at reims..which is the same as everyone else on here..fuck all. We aren't in a position to take a risk on someone like that while we're in 19th. I swear some people just want the clubs name in the papers and online articles more and that's why they want him 🤣 Far from zero. He had an A License when he joined Reims. Fined because the team is playing in a top division which requires a Pro License, which he's now completed. Same in UK, need none until the football league, as Marc White has reminded us all, A License in the EFL and Pro License in the PL. He started off at PNE Academy which requires at least a B License (Level 2 at a push if deemed competent/but would be soon pushed onto the B). Let's not pretend he was plucked out of a hat! Would be a real coup and fit for Sunderland with their transfer strategy and DOF model. From what I've seen of Reims, this season and last, they're solid defensively, 7th least goals conceded and won possession 2nd most in the final 1/3 last season, solid whilst winning the ball in good areas. Wouldn't say we aren't in a position to take a risk on a manager and I hope it's not an excuse for us to make a typical SCFC appointment.
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Post by wakefieldstokie on Dec 13, 2023 15:36:25 GMT
I just don’t think Eustace will gain the players respect as much as Nuno and alike would
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Post by vidigal7 on Dec 13, 2023 15:38:19 GMT
I dont see where this league 1 stuff comes from. So that's professionalism winning mentality, Geography for loan players First dibs on Man Utd loan players Leadership Ambition Advertisement dream for 365 ( media coverage) Player pulling power Good football It's the only sensible and secure option I've read a good deal of opining, wild speculation & "takes" over my years on this forum. This is one of the absolute all-timers in my book I'm doing a crash course in common sense, thanks for participating haha
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Post by Pugsley on Dec 13, 2023 15:38:30 GMT
I just don’t think Eustace will gain the players respect as much as Nuno and alike would That's my worry with this rabble.
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Post by stokieben28 on Dec 13, 2023 15:38:35 GMT
The Wolves fans I know adore him, and for good reason. Promotion, two seventh-placed Prem finishes, FA Cup semi-final, Europa League quarters. And was invested in the city of Wolverhampton
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Post by walrus on Dec 13, 2023 15:39:11 GMT
Two of the more interesting names in Nuno and Jokanovic, but not sure either would set the pulse racing. Nuno isn't a sexy football man and if he was called Nigel Edward Smithson I don't think the love-in would be quite so great. Nuno got Wolves promoted with the most goals scored and fewest goals conceded in the league that year and made some superb signings, essentially laying the foundations for them to become Premier League mainstays. If he could achieve anything like that at Stoke he’d deservedly be regarded as one of our most successful managers ever.
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Post by beats88 on Dec 13, 2023 15:40:34 GMT
Yup! Three-at-the-back or not, the fact is that in the Championship, he succeeded the dour Paul Lambert who finished 15th the previous season, and after a summer overhaul had them go up as champions. No better evidence of someone who can take a brand-new squad and make it perform. That was, as you say, followed by two successive 7th place finishes in the Premier League. If a top drawer manager like Nuno has indeed applied off his own back, that is fucking big news! I find it difficult to believe tbh. He can get a top job in Europe easily you would imagine. Agreed. Can't see any truth in this one unfortunately. Would love to be proven wrong.
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Dec 13, 2023 15:41:39 GMT
If it's true he's applied it's an absolute no brainer to get Nuno in!!
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Post by humbersidepotter on Dec 13, 2023 15:42:00 GMT
Said it on another thread, but I'd get the cheque book out for Will Still. Sunderland have made an approach amongst other clubs apparently Why? He is a football manager player who hasn't even got coaching badges and his club has to pay a fine every game he is in charge (that was the case earlier this season I assume it still is) Why do people want this guy but then say the likes of Eustace, Parker, Lampard etc don't have experience 🤣🤣 Currently doing/has done the badges I believe, his football is better and has a better win rate, also no longer being fined... Eustace is the most inexperienced of the four, politely fuck Frank Lampard, and Parkers football is horrendous
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Post by vidigal7 on Dec 13, 2023 15:42:59 GMT
Two of the more interesting names in Nuno and Jokanovic, but not sure either would set the pulse racing. Nuno isn't a sexy football man and if he was called Nigel Edward Smithson I don't think the love-in would be quite so great. Nuno got Wolves promoted with the most goals scored and fewest goals conceded in the league that year and made some superb signings, essentially laying the foundations for them to become Premier League mainstays. If he could achieve anything like that at Stoke he’d deservedly be regarded as one of our most successful managers ever. He is 'a' outstanding candidate in my book but I think they had this super agent that was heavily connected with top up and coming players. Though I'd take Nuno in a shot and I'm pretty confident most others would aswell
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Post by stokeykez on Dec 13, 2023 15:43:47 GMT
If it's true he's applied it's an absolute no brainer to get Nuno in!! Let's hope he has been convinced then, if its the one mc was on about
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Post by dirtygary69 on Dec 13, 2023 15:46:03 GMT
Two of the more interesting names in Nuno and Jokanovic, but not sure either would set the pulse racing. Nuno isn't a sexy football man and if he was called Nigel Edward Smithson I don't think the love-in would be quite so great. Nuno got Wolves promoted with the most goals scored and fewest goals conceded in the league that year and made some superb signings, essentially laying the foundations for them to become Premier League mainstays. If he could achieve anything like that at Stoke he’d deservedly be regarded as one of our most successful managers ever. With a donk load of cash and excellent agent links. Wouldn't be the same here, and that was 7-8 years ago now? I'm not saying no at all, I just don't think it's as fantastic as some are making out. He's made a pigs ear of his most recent jobs, but he's certainly a more exciting name.
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Post by dirtygary69 on Dec 13, 2023 15:47:10 GMT
If it's true he's applied it's an absolute no brainer to get Nuno in!! Let's hope he has been convinced then, if its the one mc was on about It sounded like we'd approached whoever MC was on about, whereas I've seen Nuno has actually applied. As with everything, I'm not sure anybody really knows anything anyway.
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