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Post by mr on Dec 15, 2023 16:53:40 GMT
Schumacher odds coming in. Seems like a different person is getting lumped on every day 😅
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Post by FullerMagic on Dec 15, 2023 16:55:17 GMT
Schumacher odds coming in. Seems like a different person is getting lumped on every day 😅 He surged from about 20s to 2 at about noon I think. But, since then, nothing. So don't know what to make of that.
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Post by Pirate on Dec 15, 2023 16:56:20 GMT
At the stage of trying to convince ourselves we wouldnt mind Mowbray are we, yay
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Post by tommycarlsberg on Dec 15, 2023 16:57:15 GMT
Schumacher odds coming in. Seems like a different person is getting lumped on every day 😅 He surged from about 20s to 2 at about noon I think. But, since then, nothing. So don't know what to make of that. fishloveoatcakes has put £10k on him.
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Post by baconburger on Dec 15, 2023 16:57:33 GMT
Yeah sure nothing like a team of 9 defenders. He played with a back four, and Junior was deployed further forward as a winger. We gave it a good go and should have won the game comfortably. It's not Gallagher's fault Mmaee missed a good chance. He played one even remotely attacking type player which resulted in what you’d expect 0 goals barring a pretty soft penno. If that’s what you want to watch I can only pity you.
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Post by march4 on Dec 15, 2023 17:03:18 GMT
I would prefer Mowbray to some of the names mentioned. However, I would prefer us to poach the manager of our next opponents.
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Post by baconburger on Dec 15, 2023 17:04:05 GMT
At the stage of trying to convince ourselves we wouldnt mind Mowbray are we, yay Naah got to admit I’ve been pretty keen from the get go on these last 2 occasions football and goals over the feelings of morons every time.
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Post by lordb on Dec 15, 2023 17:04:15 GMT
I would prefer Mowbray to some of the names mentioned. However, I would prefer us to poach the manager of our next opponents. every week? sounds like a plan
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Post by march4 on Dec 15, 2023 17:05:31 GMT
I would prefer Mowbray to some of the names mentioned. However, I would prefer us to poach the manager of our next opponents. every week? sounds like a plan That just made me cough up my cup of tea over my keyboard. Excellent!!
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Post by nottinghamstokie on Dec 15, 2023 17:08:39 GMT
Are we waiting for cooper lose his job tonight Forest will win 3-0 tonight And even if they don't, Cooper is going nowhere You heard it here 🙂
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Post by Rick Grimes on Dec 15, 2023 17:11:20 GMT
Seems to me like this appointment is still wide open and won’t be decided until after West Brom at least now.
Eustace would have been announced by now if they’d settled on him.
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Post by FullerMagic on Dec 15, 2023 17:14:45 GMT
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Post by Pirate on Dec 15, 2023 17:16:46 GMT
At the stage of trying to convince ourselves we wouldnt mind Mowbray are we, yay Naah got to admit I’ve been pretty keen from the get go on these last 2 occasions football and goals over the feelings of morons every time. I just cant warm to the guy at all, i understand that you feel differently, i am not being massively logical this time to a degree, i have always backed the appointments with patience but i crave something more adventurous this time & i would be dishonest to claim otherwise. They need to rekindle lots of peoples love & passion for the club, we need rose petals & champagne, a waterbed & a skimpy nighty, poetry & excitement, not a corned beef sanger in a layby. The board have created the situation where me & others feel this way after years of poor choices, there is no joy at all left in following/watching us, we are a soulless husk & they need to inspire everyone Side note, just because folk feel different doesn't necessarily make them morons
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Post by Deleted on Dec 15, 2023 17:19:10 GMT
After their Schumacher shenanigans today, I don't trust Skybet at all.
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Post by Rick Grimes on Dec 15, 2023 17:22:09 GMT
After his latest media outing I’m just praying the board aren’t considering Gallagher, even until the end of the year.
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Post by andystokey on Dec 15, 2023 17:25:53 GMT
This is all as random as that Lambert appointment. Feels like we have no real coherent plan. The candidates have almost nothing in common. Old school, up-and-coming God managers, 1st team coaches Play 3 at the back, play 4 Maybe a project, maybe an interim
We seem to have no identity reflected in the names mentioned.
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Post by Wizbit on Dec 15, 2023 17:36:35 GMT
This is all as random as that Lambert appointment. Feels like we have no real coherent plan. The candidates have almost nothing in common. Old school, up-and-coming God managers, 1st team coaches Play 3 at the back, play 4 Maybe a project, maybe an interim We seem to have no identity reflected in the names mentioned. Thing is we just have to wait and see because no one from the club has indicated anything...so this whole thread so far is pure speculation which is fine its a message board after all ... apart from the neil sacked report there is nothing at all substantial in the public domain that proves where we are looking ... ive a funny feeling we might get a Jared curve ball
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Post by 1982stokie on Dec 15, 2023 17:47:41 GMT
We will end up with a shock appointment, I am going with Phil Brown think he is out of work
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Post by chigstoke on Dec 15, 2023 17:49:15 GMT
We will end up with a shock appointment, I am going with Phil Brown think he is out of work Don't get tempting fate
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Post by march4 on Dec 15, 2023 17:50:32 GMT
This is all as random as that Lambert appointment. Feels like we have no real coherent plan. The candidates have almost nothing in common. Old school, up-and-coming God managers, 1st team coaches Play 3 at the back, play 4 Maybe a project, maybe an interim We seem to have no identity reflected in the names mentioned. I don't know anything about the running of the club but from a business point of view it seems to me that we had a long list and have made some contact with those candidates (even if it is just with their agents). We are now whittling that down to a short list and having further discussion with the chosen men. I'm wondering if managers are suddenly being backed at the bookies when they find out they are on the short list and given a longer interview. I've always wondered how these interviews go. Do you have a list of questions that you ask every candidate? Do they have to do role play, are they given a task to complete, do they get to give a presentation, is there an aptitude test? How many referees do they have to provide (are these actual referees or just former employers or their mates or journalists or former players, etc.?) Does anyone know?
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Post by baconburger on Dec 15, 2023 17:56:54 GMT
Naah got to admit I’ve been pretty keen from the get go on these last 2 occasions football and goals over the feelings of morons every time. I just cant warm to the guy at all, i understand that you feel differently, i am not being massively logical this time to a degree, i have always backed the appointments with patience but i crave something more adventurous this time & i would be dishonest to claim otherwise. They need to rekindle lots of peoples love & passion for the club, we need rose petals & champagne, a waterbed & a skimpy nighty, poetry & excitement, not a corned beef sanger in a layby. The board have created the situation where me & others feel this way after years of poor choices, there is no joy at all left in following/watching us, we are a soulless husk & they need to inspire everyone Side note, just because folk feel different doesn't necessarily make them morons That's not what's moronic. Thinking that some of the names that have been put in the frame and jizzed all over are more adventurous than Mowbray is just some of what's moronic. When you bring it down to football and forget the irrelevance that is personality Mowbray is one of the most adventurous names on the lists.
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Post by Marc01 on Dec 15, 2023 17:58:55 GMT
We will end up with a shock appointment, I am going with Phil Brown think he is out of work A joint team of Martin O’Neil and Paul Lambert Double pronged approach… Recreating the great memories of the early 2018 managerial search 🙂
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Post by andystokey on Dec 15, 2023 18:03:48 GMT
This is all as random as that Lambert appointment. Feels like we have no real coherent plan. The candidates have almost nothing in common. Old school, up-and-coming God managers, 1st team coaches Play 3 at the back, play 4 Maybe a project, maybe an interim We seem to have no identity reflected in the names mentioned. I don't know anything about the running of the club but from a business point of view it seems to me that we had a long list and have made some contact with those candidates (even if it is just with their agents). We are now whittling that down to a short list and having further discussion with the chosen men. I'm wondering if managers are suddenly being backed at the bookies when they find out they are on the short list and given a longer interview. I've always wondered how these interviews go. Do you have a list of questions that you ask every candidate? Do they have to do role play, are they given a task to complete, do they get to give a presentation, is there an aptitude test? How many referees do they have to provide (are these actual referees or just former employers or their mates or journalists or former players, etc.?) Does anyone know? I think it varies by club but I know Rangers did presentations for the final candidates last two jobs and the panel included some trusted people like Souness. That was all future vision stuff and a personal "sell". The shortlist first contact was a simple set of killer questions regarding expectations and knowledge of the club and team. By contrast. Brighton who I probably know most about didn't even need the first process they had a permanent moving list, as did Southampton before their man was poached. They constantly watched their sucession candidates come into form and leave the list and they always knew what it would cost to get them. Lots of data driven stuff but they also watched videos before a vacancy even was likely. But this is Stoke so I expect a tombola is involved and a copy of the Rothmans year book.
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Post by baconburger on Dec 15, 2023 18:06:12 GMT
This is all as random as that Lambert appointment. Feels like we have no real coherent plan. The candidates have almost nothing in common. Old school, up-and-coming God managers, 1st team coaches Play 3 at the back, play 4 Maybe a project, maybe an interim We seem to have no identity reflected in the names mentioned. I don't know anything about the running of the club but from a business point of view it seems to me that we had a long list and have made some contact with those candidates (even if it is just with their agents). We are now whittling that down to a short list and having further discussion with the chosen men. I'm wondering if managers are suddenly being backed at the bookies when they find out they are on the short list and given a longer interview. I've always wondered how these interviews go. Do you have a list of questions that you ask every candidate? Do they have to do role play, are they given a task to complete, do they get to give a presentation, is there an aptitude test? How many referees do they have to provide (are these actual referees or just former employers or their mates or journalists or former players, etc.?) Does anyone know? Mostly core competencies. Bullshit stories that are very difficult/impossible to disprove about how you've demonstrated them in your career. If you can get one in where you've grassed someone up/put them on poor performance/performance improvement plan/got them sacked they're always a big points scorer. You can bet your life if it's Stoke it's fuck all to do with well I got my team to score 97 goals last season.
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Post by nottinghamstokie on Dec 15, 2023 18:34:42 GMT
Naah got to admit I’ve been pretty keen from the get go on these last 2 occasions football and goals over the feelings of morons every time. I just cant warm to the guy at all, i understand that you feel differently, i am not being massively logical this time to a degree, i have always backed the appointments with patience but i crave something more adventurous this time & i would be dishonest to claim otherwise. They need to rekindle lots of peoples love & passion for the club, we need rose petals & champagne, a waterbed & a skimpy nighty, poetry & excitement, not a corned beef sanger in a layby. The board have created the situation where me & others feel this way after years of poor choices, there is no joy at all left in following/watching us, we are a soulless husk & they need to inspire everyone Side note, just because folk feel different doesn't necessarily make them morons But would you honestly say TP was someone you'd "warm" to ?
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Post by Olgrligm on Dec 15, 2023 18:36:54 GMT
Regarding Mowbray.
I've not really got any issue with him saying things about us over a decade ago. I think we can forgive somebody a bit of tit for tat back then, can't we? We gave back as good as we got and it made winning all the sweeter.
My reservations are more that we've sparred against him for over 15 years now and every game goes the same way:
1) We play in a physically robust fashion
2) His team roll over and lose
He clearly has a reasonable record at this level and his merits, but he just doesn't feel very...Stoke? Our best managers have all tapped into something of the character of the area.
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Post by BristolMick on Dec 15, 2023 18:38:54 GMT
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Post by peterthornesboots on Dec 15, 2023 18:45:06 GMT
This is all as random as that Lambert appointment. Feels like we have no real coherent plan. The candidates have almost nothing in common. Old school, up-and-coming God managers, 1st team coaches Play 3 at the back, play 4 Maybe a project, maybe an interim We seem to have no identity reflected in the names mentioned. I don't know anything about the running of the club but from a business point of view it seems to me that we had a long list and have made some contact with those candidates (even if it is just with their agents). We are now whittling that down to a short list and having further discussion with the chosen men. I'm wondering if managers are suddenly being backed at the bookies when they find out they are on the short list and given a longer interview. I've always wondered how these interviews go. Do you have a list of questions that you ask every candidate? Do they have to do role play, are they given a task to complete, do they get to give a presentation, is there an aptitude test? How many referees do they have to provide (are these actual referees or just former employers or their mates or journalists or former players, etc.?) Does anyone know? It depends on the club and the situation. However, most clubs that I know request a formal presentation where the manager outlines his philosophy, style of play, and vision for the club. Then the 'interview' tends to be more of a conversation around a coffee table than a Alan Sugar style Apprentice thing. I get the sense that we have made initial contact with several candidates and had some general conversations. Now we are inviting those we like (and that are interested) back for some formal interviews.
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Post by chigstoke on Dec 15, 2023 18:46:30 GMT
There's something new everyday isn't there We really haven't got a fucking clue what's going on do we? That's the top and bottom of it. I've nailed my sack to the Nuno train though, I'm all in until Percy tells me we're set to unveil someone else
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Post by datguy on Dec 15, 2023 18:46:59 GMT
Now this, this, is how a rumour should start.
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