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Tchamadeu
Dec 12, 2023 22:45:42 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Dec 12, 2023 22:45:42 GMT
Start him as TB and fuck Hoever off back to Wolves. Junior is one of few players who looks to make a positive pass or forward run. He’ll get better and better. And when Junior goes to AFCON? Gooch RB Stevens LB
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Post by spoton on Dec 12, 2023 22:46:27 GMT
Needs to be the starting RB. I’m so fucking sick of Hoever. To be fair thought Hoever defended fine today You must be joking what about the goal for god's sake we know the keeper should have got it but really Hoever again lost his player
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Post by jimmygscfc1234 on Dec 12, 2023 22:46:49 GMT
And when Junior goes to AFCON? Play Gooch. Hoever needs fucking off sharpish. My point is we’ll get him settled then he goes off. We’ll be a player down and you’re saying send Hoever back. My question is: Can we send him back? Junior looks like he can and will be a good attacking full back and any new manager will see that and see through Hoever.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Dec 12, 2023 22:48:57 GMT
Play Gooch. Hoever needs fucking off sharpish. My point is we’ll get him settled then he goes off. We’ll be a player down and you’re saying send Hoever back. My question is: Can we send him back? Junior looks like he can and will be a good attacking full back and any new manager will see that and see through Hoever. Hoever should never play for us again. He’s absolute garbage.
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Post by davejohnno1 on Dec 12, 2023 22:54:04 GMT
He’s not a wing back
He was knackered for most of 2nd half
He moans an awful lot about anything and everything
I like him and he should start at full back, left or right side.
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Tchamadeu
Dec 12, 2023 22:55:06 GMT
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Post by lordb on Dec 12, 2023 22:55:06 GMT
My point is we’ll get him settled then he goes off. We’ll be a player down and you’re saying send Hoever back. My question is: Can we send him back? Junior looks like he can and will be a good attacking full back and any new manager will see that and see through Hoever. Hoever should never play for us again. He’s absolute garbage. Can we send him back was the question
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Post by prestwichpotter on Dec 12, 2023 22:55:30 GMT
And when Junior goes to AFCON? Gooch RB Stevens LB Kill me now….
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Post by jontimmis on Dec 12, 2023 22:55:41 GMT
Big shout out to junior tonight worked his socks off and had moments of quality too.
Also seems to already have a connection with the fans! Love it.
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Tchamadeu
Dec 12, 2023 22:56:12 GMT
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Post by bayernoatcake on Dec 12, 2023 22:56:12 GMT
Hoever should never play for us again. He’s absolute garbage. Can we send him back was the question Put him in the u18s if we can’t. Absolute shite.
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Post by lordb on Dec 12, 2023 22:56:30 GMT
To be fair thought Hoever defended fine today You must be joking what about the goal for god's sake we know the keeper should have got it but really Hoever again lost his player The goal? Thought that was entirely on Bonham Hoever did put two shit corners in but thought he was steady
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Post by lordb on Dec 12, 2023 22:57:02 GMT
Can we send him back was the question Put him in the u18s if we can’t. Absolute shite. So you don't know
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Tchamadeu
Dec 12, 2023 22:57:32 GMT
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Post by jimmygscfc1234 on Dec 12, 2023 22:57:32 GMT
My point is we’ll get him settled then he goes off. We’ll be a player down and you’re saying send Hoever back. My question is: Can we send him back? Junior looks like he can and will be a good attacking full back and any new manager will see that and see through Hoever. Hoever should never play for us again. He’s absolute garbage. We’re not going to just let him rot for the rest of the season though. I guess we’re stuck with him and he’ll continue to feature from time to time. Sorry Bayern, someone had to tell you!
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Tchamadeu
Dec 12, 2023 22:57:56 GMT
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Post by willieeetmiout on Dec 12, 2023 22:57:56 GMT
To be fair thought Hoever defended fine today You must be joking what about the goal for god's sake we know the keeper should have got it but really Hoever again lost his player He didn't lose his man. He got outmuscled by him. Did enough to put the player off whose header was shit. Just a shame Bonham had fucked off for the night
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Tchamadeu
Dec 12, 2023 22:58:11 GMT
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Post by bayernoatcake on Dec 12, 2023 22:58:11 GMT
Put him in the u18s if we can’t. Absolute shite. So you don't know I don’t care. He should never play for us again one way or the other.
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Tchamadeu
Dec 12, 2023 22:58:43 GMT
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Post by bayernoatcake on Dec 12, 2023 22:58:43 GMT
Hoever should never play for us again. He’s absolute garbage. We’re not going to just let him rot for the rest of the season though. I guess we’re stuck with him and he’ll continue to feature from time to time. Sorry Bayern, someone had to tell you! Why not? We shouldn’t give two fucks about him.
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Post by andystokey on Dec 12, 2023 23:13:51 GMT
To be fair thought Hoever defended fine today You must be joking what about the goal for god's sake we know the keeper should have got it but really Hoever again lost his player Bonham should have never gone for it. It was a crazy idea to attempt it.
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Post by pottersrule on Dec 12, 2023 23:14:15 GMT
He’s not a wing back He was knackered for most of 2nd half He moans an awful lot about anything and everything I like him and he should start at full back, left or right side. Total fuck up playing him at wing back.Hoover,if he had to be on the pitch, should have switched with Tchamadeu.Has he been injured or just out of favour, because he hasn't featured at all since the international break? Looked out of condition and was blowing like a race horse after ten minutes. He has never let us down at fullback and it's baffling to see him being shoe horned into a position totally alien to him.
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Post by Gary Hackett on Dec 12, 2023 23:18:06 GMT
He’s not a wing back He was knackered for most of 2nd half He moans an awful lot about anything and everything I like him and he should start at full back, left or right side. He didn't play wing back he played right wing. He can play wing back fine but I prefer him as an attacking full back in a back 4.
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Tchamadeu
Dec 12, 2023 23:23:31 GMT
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Post by davejohnno1 on Dec 12, 2023 23:23:31 GMT
He’s not a wing back He was knackered for most of 2nd half He moans an awful lot about anything and everything I like him and he should start at full back, left or right side. He didn't play wing back he played right wing. He can play wing back fine but I prefer him as an attacking full back in a back 4. He’s not a wing back or a right winger then. 👍
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Tchamadeu
Dec 12, 2023 23:28:27 GMT
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Post by stokiespark on Dec 12, 2023 23:28:27 GMT
Did ok as wing back/ wide midfield tonight. Would have thought it made more sense for him to be the right sided man of the back 3 and push Hoever further forward.
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Post by binthelplates on Dec 12, 2023 23:31:41 GMT
You must be joking what about the goal for god's sake we know the keeper should have got it but really Hoever again lost his player He didn't lose his man. He got outmuscled by him. Did enough to put the player off whose header was shit. Just a shame Bonham had fucked off for the night He was ball watching, and the player he was supposed to be marking ran round the back of him and got a free header in. When he realised he tried a Tyresse Campbell defensive header special, by turning his back in him, garbage defending. I suspect Bonham read the danger and that’s why he came out so far, he’d got no chance reaching it.
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Post by willieeetmiout on Dec 12, 2023 23:34:50 GMT
He didn't lose his man. He got outmuscled by him. Did enough to put the player off whose header was shit. Just a shame Bonham had fucked off for the night He was ball watching, and the player he was supposed to be marking ran round the back of him and got a free header in. When he realised he tried a Tyresse Campbell defensive header special, by turning his back in him, garbage defending. I suspect Bonham read the danger and that’s why he came out so far, he’d got no chance reaching it. Bonham read the danger and decided to make it more dangerous?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 12, 2023 23:39:53 GMT
Did ok as wing back/ wide midfield tonight. Would have thought it made more sense for him to be the right sided man of the back 3 and push Hoever further forward. We didn't play with a back 3 or wingbacks. It was a flat four with Junior as winger/right midfield
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Tchamadeu
Dec 12, 2023 23:42:37 GMT
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Post by stokiejoe89 on Dec 12, 2023 23:42:37 GMT
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Tchamadeu
Dec 12, 2023 23:44:31 GMT
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Post by stokiespark on Dec 12, 2023 23:44:31 GMT
Did ok as wing back/ wide midfield tonight. Would have thought it made more sense for him to be the right sided man of the back 3 and push Hoever further forward. We didn't play with a back 3 or wingbacks. It was a flat four with Junior as winger/right midfield no it wasnt. If it was a back 4 why wasn’t Hoever getting forward like he normally does in that position? Gooch and Tchamadu were wide or Pearson and Burger. Johnson and Laurent were then both advanced. It wasn't a traditional wing back role. I would call it wide midfielders that were picked because of their workrate. Not a cat in hells chance was Hoever played as a right back tonight.
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Tchamadeu
Dec 13, 2023 0:21:16 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Dec 13, 2023 0:21:16 GMT
We didn't play with a back 3 or wingbacks. It was a flat four with Junior as winger/right midfield no it wasnt. If it was a back 4 why wasn’t Hoever getting forward like he normally does in that position? Gooch and Tchamadu were wide or Pearson and Burger. Johnson and Laurent were then both advanced. It wasn't a traditional wing back role. I would call it wide midfielders that were picked because of their workrate. Not a cat in hells chance was Hoever played as a right back tonight. Well Hoever was way to wide to be playing rcb and Junior wasn't getting back as a wingback needs to. It looked pretty much 451 to me.
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Post by stokesaint1 on Dec 13, 2023 0:38:43 GMT
no it wasnt. If it was a back 4 why wasn’t Hoever getting forward like he normally does in that position? Gooch and Tchamadu were wide or Pearson and Burger. Johnson and Laurent were then both advanced. It wasn't a traditional wing back role. I would call it wide midfielders that were picked because of their workrate. Not a cat in hells chance was Hoever played as a right back tonight. Well Hoever was way to wide to be playing rcb and Junior wasn't getting back as a wingback needs to. It looked pretty much 451 to me. Agree. That's exactly how I saw it and anyone who had watched Stoke at all this season would have realised that Hoever (if he had to play) would have been better in the Junior position and Junior far far better than Hoever in the right back defensive role. Do all the Stoke management team watch different games than the supporters do? Ten out of ten for Gallagher for bringing Junior into the starting XI but 3 out of ten for not swapping the Hoever and Junior roles. If not from the start, he should have addressed it after 20 minutes max.
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Post by spoton on Dec 13, 2023 0:48:57 GMT
You must be joking what about the goal for god's sake we know the keeper should have got it but really Hoever again lost his player He didn't lose his man. He got outmuscled by him. Did enough to put the player off whose header was shit. Just a shame Bonham had fucked off for the night Lost his man or got outmuscled is the same thing when you are supposed to mark that player just don't see how you can say he did enough to put the player off he was no wear near enough he never is, totally rubbish player
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Tchamadeu
Dec 13, 2023 0:56:17 GMT
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Post by Paul Spencer on Dec 13, 2023 0:56:17 GMT
We didn't play with a back 3 or wingbacks. It was a flat four with Junior as winger/right midfield no it wasnt. If it was a back 4 why wasn’t Hoever getting forward like he normally does in that position? Gooch and Tchamadu were wide or Pearson and Burger. Johnson and Laurent were then both advanced. It wasn't a traditional wing back role. I would call it wide midfielders that were picked because of their workrate. Not a cat in hells chance was Hoever played as a right back tonight. It was 4231. Johnson and Junior were either side of Laurent in the three.
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Tchamadeu
Dec 13, 2023 0:58:27 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Dec 13, 2023 0:58:27 GMT
no it wasnt. If it was a back 4 why wasn’t Hoever getting forward like he normally does in that position? Gooch and Tchamadu were wide or Pearson and Burger. Johnson and Laurent were then both advanced. It wasn't a traditional wing back role. I would call it wide midfielders that were picked because of their workrate. Not a cat in hells chance was Hoever played as a right back tonight. It was 4231. Johnson and Junior were either side of Laurent in the three. I wouldn’t have said that Johnson was a wide left though. He may have been asked to play out there but it looked like he was quite center.
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