banksie66
Academy Starlet
So that's two Prawn Goebels, A Herman Goerring and a Colditz Salad
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Post by banksie66 on Feb 19, 2024 22:21:08 GMT
Both still looking fresh after day one. What’s the wise money on?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 19, 2024 22:22:32 GMT
He’s a dead man walking
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Post by jay1610 on Feb 19, 2024 22:24:49 GMT
Justified or not, I have never known a club employee who’s not on the pitch or in the dugout be so divisive.
He’s got to go.
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Post by onionman on Feb 19, 2024 22:28:28 GMT
Justified or not, I have never known a club employee who’s not on the pitch or in the dugout be so divisive. He’s got to go. Fan base seems pretty united with their opinion
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Post by jay1610 on Feb 19, 2024 22:29:28 GMT
Justified or not, I have never known a club employee who’s not on the pitch or in the dugout be so divisive. He’s got to go. Fan base seems pretty united with their opinion True. Disliked rather than divisive then.
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Post by rickyfullerbeer on Feb 20, 2024 4:25:27 GMT
Sounds a bit harsh and judgemental to say it but the instant i heard Ricky speak in his first interview, he sounded like such a textbook Bullsh*tting wideboy chancer, you wonder how he got past the first interview, the fact that he was so reliant on and hid behind all the b*llocks marketing and sales jargon, "KPI's", "Cultural architects", "3 pillars", sounded the alarm bells. Anyone in any company must have experienced chancers like this who churn out the same old hollow meaningless bollocks in meetings with no real understanding of what they're talking about, and no ability to articulate above and beyond in normal simple language. Would a proper experienced director of football (someone who has already played and or managed to a serious level) speak in those terms toward the fans, absolutely not. A true company man in his shit 80's suit and shit jargon.
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Post by milky on Feb 20, 2024 5:46:49 GMT
Sounds a bit harsh and judgemental to say it but the instant i heard Ricky speak in his first interview, he sounded like such a textbook Bullsh*tting wideboy chancer, you wonder how he got past the first interview, the fact that he was so reliant on and hid behind all the b*llocks marketing and sales jargon, "KPI's", "Cultural architects", "3 pillars", sounded the alarm bells. Anyone in any company must have experienced chancers like this who churn out the same old hollow meaningless bollocks in meetings with no real understanding of what they're talking about, and no ability to articulate above and beyond in normal simple language. Would a proper experienced director of football (someone who has already played and or managed to a serious level) speak in those terms toward the fans, absolutely not. Interview? Junior Coates was inexplicably so desperate to bring in Alex Neil I imagine he pretty much agreed to anything including bringing his idiot mate along for the ride to take the piss , a man Norwich couldn't wait to be rid of. A farce of a football club ! Edit - sorry I realise you now meant his first press conference type thing. My point still stands though, I bet he was never even interviewed for the job. They may as well have got the bloke off the street who walks up and down shouting at traffic.
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Post by sportsman on Feb 20, 2024 6:37:50 GMT
Justified or not, I have never known a club employee who’s not on the pitch or in the dugout be so divisive. He’s got to go. If it isn’t scholes it’s Martin.
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Post by jay1610 on Feb 20, 2024 6:46:07 GMT
Justified or not, I have never known a club employee who’s not on the pitch or in the dugout be so divisive. He’s got to go. If it isn’t scholes it’s Martin. The strength of feeling against Scholes was minuscule compared to this.
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Post by PotterLog on Feb 20, 2024 6:55:20 GMT
If it isn’t scholes it’s Martin. The strength of feeling against Scholes was minuscule compared to this. Wish Momo was still on here, I'd love to hear his thoughts on Tricky
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2024 8:50:03 GMT
Justified or not, I have never known a club employee who’s not on the pitch or in the dugout be so divisive. He’s got to go. If it isn’t scholes it’s Martin. Lets not forget Jez Moxey
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Post by Northy on Feb 20, 2024 8:55:26 GMT
If it isn’t scholes it’s Martin. Lets not forget Jez Moxey Trust you, I had forgotten him, now my day is going to be shittier than normal
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2024 9:31:00 GMT
Lets not forget Jez Moxey Trust you, I had forgotten him, now my day is going to be shittier than normal How could you forget that slimy fat fuck? I wonder what owners set him on?
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Feb 20, 2024 10:34:32 GMT
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Post by chiswickpotter on Feb 20, 2024 10:38:44 GMT
To be fair to the club I think we had to let Brown go. He had a chance to play PL football and it helped us with FFP. If we stood in his way, we could've had an unhappy pleyer on our hanmds putting in a transfer request. Brown never came across to me as a player who would sulk. He never gave less than 100% whatever the circumstances. Also, he must have known that being a Prem player would mean that he would always be an also ran. I've got no bones to pick with Brown and I really hope he makes a shedload of dosh with the move. I still think we could have kept him with a great bonus at the end of the season when FFP isn't dragging us back. OS. Really, chance to double his pay and play in the Premier League. We couldn't have matched any part of that offer, it seems a pretty straightforward choice.
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Post by bridgnorthstokie on Feb 20, 2024 11:16:22 GMT
Brown never came across to me as a player who would sulk. He never gave less than 100% whatever the circumstances. Also, he must have known that being a Prem player would mean that he would always be an also ran. I've got no bones to pick with Brown and I really hope he makes a shedload of dosh with the move. I still think we could have kept him with a great bonus at the end of the season when FFP isn't dragging us back. OS. Really, chance to double his pay and play in the Premier League. We couldn't have matched any part of that offer, it seems a pretty straightforward choice. I can hear the conversation now. RM..ook Jacob "you've been offered the chance to play at the highest level in English football, test yourself against some of the best defenders in the world" JB, "I can't believe this opportunity it will change my life" RM "don't be silly lad, you can stay here where the fans kinda like you but think we can do better. Stand with us, a mid table team as we fight relegation.. and now this is the big one....well give you a nice big bonus including family pass to waterworld, if and its a big if..if FFP pressures allow" what you say son. JB.." Taxi"
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Post by spitthedog on Feb 20, 2024 14:31:05 GMT
Brown never came across to me as a player who would sulk. He never gave less than 100% whatever the circumstances. Also, he must have known that being a Prem player would mean that he would always be an also ran. I've got no bones to pick with Brown and I really hope he makes a shedload of dosh with the move. I still think we could have kept him with a great bonus at the end of the season when FFP isn't dragging us back. OS. Really, chance to double his pay and play in the Premier League. We couldn't have matched any part of that offer, it seems a pretty straightforward choice. Its nothing more than a misguided myth that we could have held onto Brown. It's just more desperation from our fans based on zero evidence. He'll have had a massive wage increase, a chance to play at the top level, much higher profile and self promotion opportunities.....only an idiot would have chosen to stay at Stoke, and he's clearly not that daft. You cant even call at a choice. Its a no-brainer. He would have regretted it for life.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2024 14:46:05 GMT
Really, chance to double his pay and play in the Premier League. We couldn't have matched any part of that offer, it seems a pretty straightforward choice. Its nothing more than a misguided myth that we could have held onto Brown. It's just more desperation from our fans based on zero evidence. He'll have had a massive wage increase, a chance to play at the top level, much higher profile and self promotion opportunities.....only an idiot would have chosen to stay at Stoke, and he's clearly not that daft. You cant even call at a choice. Its a no-brainer. He would have regretted it for life. Selling Brown was inevitable. His workrate has put him into the PL. Simply, he outgrew us. Not replacing him with someone who had similar qualities has been the issue.
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Post by starkiller on Feb 20, 2024 15:16:22 GMT
Absolutely catastrophic to keep Martin and his MacBook after Neil went. And involve him in getting a new manager.
A decent experienced manager wouldn't even consider working with this prick.
Get him gone.
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Post by premieraj on Feb 20, 2024 15:16:55 GMT
Its nothing more than a misguided myth that we could have held onto Brown. It's just more desperation from our fans based on zero evidence. He'll have had a massive wage increase, a chance to play at the top level, much higher profile and self promotion opportunities.....only an idiot would have chosen to stay at Stoke, and he's clearly not that daft. You cant even call at a choice. Its a no-brainer. He would have regretted it for life. Selling Brown was inevitable. His workrate has put him into the PL. Simply, he outgrew us. Not replacing him with someone who had similar qualities has been the issue. We did Leris lol 😂
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banksie66
Academy Starlet
So that's two Prawn Goebels, A Herman Goerring and a Colditz Salad
Posts: 180
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Post by banksie66 on Feb 20, 2024 22:12:30 GMT
Both still looking fresh after day one. What’s the wise money on? Two days gone. Both still looking OK.
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Post by hoppo96 on Feb 20, 2024 22:35:47 GMT
Brown was always going to leave... and not sure we had FFP room to give him some huge bonus or whatever
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Post by lordb on Feb 20, 2024 22:41:00 GMT
Justified or not, I have never known a club employee who’s not on the pitch or in the dugout be so divisive. He’s got to go. Moxey
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Post by lordb on Feb 20, 2024 22:44:02 GMT
Been told today , shortlist for replacements have begun , he will be replaced in the summer SS already doing all the work Thats reasonably sensible new man should start in the summer However RM can still be sacked now or at least put on gardening leave
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Post by stokieinlondon on Feb 21, 2024 10:40:46 GMT
I wouldn’t let him back in the building now. Get rid
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Post by thisisouryear on Feb 21, 2024 12:01:25 GMT
Been told today , shortlist for replacements have begun , he will be replaced in the summer SS already doing all the work Thats reasonably sensible new man should start in the summer However RM can still be sacked now or at least put on gardening leave Is that sensible though? You would want someone in early to sort the whole department out earlier so that come summer everyone can just kick on with their jobs and start getting this club moving forward. The sooner the better for me. He needs to be replaced with a proper football man. Data is all fine but we need someone with football experience upstairs to support the manager properly. A MON, a Pulis or an Allardyce (someone with his type of experience not necessarily him, I wouldn't want him here in any form) type would be perfect to help knit this club back together. These people will know things about players which data can't show you. It's like in the building trade or anywhere really, you have lads or lasses coming out of college and they know everything, they can tell you how to do your job step by step then you give them some tools and they can't do jack with them. This is how it feels at Stoke, we have people who have so much information but when they come to assemble a team it doesn't work. The players just don't link together well and the partnerships between players is almost non existent. We need a football man upstairs above the whole department then we will start seeing some results. If Ricky goes Jon needs to get the next appointment right, if it's just another office guy he will just be making the same mistake again. We need to stop buying individuals and create a team the coach can actually work with. Look at Chelsea, they have spent a billion on individuals that can't play together, we're very similar on a lower level.
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Post by lordb on Feb 21, 2024 12:08:12 GMT
Thats reasonably sensible new man should start in the summer However RM can still be sacked now or at least put on gardening leave Is that sensible though? You would want someone in early to sort the whole department out earlier so that come summer everyone can just kick on with their jobs and start getting this club moving forward. The sooner the better for me. He needs to be replaced with a proper football man. Data is all fine but we need someone with football experience upstairs to support the manager properly. A MON, a Pulis or an Allardyce (someone with his type of experience not necessarily him, I wouldn't want him here in any form) type would be perfect to help knit this club back together. These people will know things about players which data can't show you. It's like in the building trade or anywhere really, you have lads or lasses coming out of college and they know everything, they can tell you how to do your job step by step then you give them some tools and they can't do jack with them. This is how it feels at Stoke, we have people who have so much information but when they come to assemble a team it doesn't work. The players just don't link together well and the partnerships between players is almost non existent. We need a football man upstairs above the whole department then we will start seeing some results. If Ricky goes Jon needs to get the next appointment right, if it's just another office guy he will just be making the same mistake again. We need to stop buying individuals and create a team the coach can actually work with. Look at Chelsea, they have spent a billion on individuals that can't play together, we're very similar on a lower level. It's sensible because it's easier (but not impossible) to prise a quality DoF from another club in the summer than this time of the year If we have to have the role it has to be someone of quality If we can get that someone now then great go for it, if we have to wait till the summer do that & sack RM now or place him on gardening leave & do without a DoF till then , really don't want to appoint someone not good enough just because they are available now I've touted Michael O'Neill as DoF think he would be great at that job If there is someone good out there at another EFL club for majority they would be tempted here
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Post by thisisouryear on Feb 21, 2024 12:20:37 GMT
Is that sensible though? You would want someone in early to sort the whole department out earlier so that come summer everyone can just kick on with their jobs and start getting this club moving forward. The sooner the better for me. He needs to be replaced with a proper football man. Data is all fine but we need someone with football experience upstairs to support the manager properly. A MON, a Pulis or an Allardyce (someone with his type of experience not necessarily him, I wouldn't want him here in any form) type would be perfect to help knit this club back together. These people will know things about players which data can't show you. It's like in the building trade or anywhere really, you have lads or lasses coming out of college and they know everything, they can tell you how to do your job step by step then you give them some tools and they can't do jack with them. This is how it feels at Stoke, we have people who have so much information but when they come to assemble a team it doesn't work. The players just don't link together well and the partnerships between players is almost non existent. We need a football man upstairs above the whole department then we will start seeing some results. If Ricky goes Jon needs to get the next appointment right, if it's just another office guy he will just be making the same mistake again. We need to stop buying individuals and create a team the coach can actually work with. Look at Chelsea, they have spent a billion on individuals that can't play together, we're very similar on a lower level. It's sensible because it's easier (but not impossible) to prise a quality DoF from another club in the summer than this time of the year If we have to have the role it has to be someone of quality If we can get that someone now then great go for it, if we have to wait till the summer do that & sack RM now or place him on gardening leave & do without a DoF till then , really don't want to appoint someone not good enough just because they are available now I've touted Michael O'Neill as DoF think he would be great at that job If there is someone good out there at another EFL club for majority they would be tempted here MON would be perfect for the role. A proper football man. I wish there would be more calls for us to at least try and get MON as Director of football because I think he would get us moving forward again. It feels like we need an ex football manager supporting a football manager/coach because they know the game better and what it takes. In many ways it makes sense to have that experience higher up in the club.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 21, 2024 12:23:02 GMT
MON should never have left and should have moved up stairs to DOF. seems made for that role
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Post by gingerninja on Feb 21, 2024 12:25:09 GMT
Sadly, I can see us being stuck with Martin, I can see Schuey being made a scapegoats before Martin 🤔.
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