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Post by thisisouryear on Feb 21, 2024 12:30:26 GMT
Sadly, I can see us being stuck with Martin, I can see Schuey being made a scapegoats before Martin 🤔. He's a goner mate, the fans have turned on him. We are one person from sorting this club out. Our problems clearly go above any manager or coach. He needs to be replaced with an experienced football person, someone who has worked on the ground level. There's a lack of understanding of what it takes to build a team upstairs, data can find promising individuals it can't create a team.
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Post by brizzlestokie on Feb 21, 2024 12:33:22 GMT
I think he'll go, whether it's soon or at the end of the season. His position seems untenable and, for all their flaws, I do get the impression that the owners pay attention to what the fans want. My issue, as always nowadays, is that I have no faith that we'll make the right move/appointment after RM leaves.
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Post by Staffsoatcake on Feb 21, 2024 12:44:31 GMT
If JC Sacks SS instead of RM,then JC needs to fuck off himsen.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 21, 2024 12:48:43 GMT
I wouldn't be surprised to see all three go at the end of the season and we'll be back to square one.
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Post by deeside2 on Feb 21, 2024 13:09:17 GMT
I sent a scathing email heavily criticising Martin to the club yesterday for the attention of JC.
I've just received the reply below from Ant Emmerson. Remains to be seen if Martin is included on the "Senior Management" circulation. I guess we just have to keep the pressure up to try to get rid of Martin.
Dear ....,
Thank you very much for your email to Stoke City Football Club.
The email has been shared with the Senior Management of the Club and they have asked me to pass on appreciation to you for taking the time to make contact and detail your concerns.
Rest assured that all at the Club will be giving all we can to end the season as strongly as possible.
Thanks again for your email and also for your loyal support.
Very best wishes,
Anthony
Anthony Emmerson
Head of Supporter Experience
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Post by Staffsoatcake on Feb 21, 2024 13:18:38 GMT
I sent a scathing email heavily criticising Martin to the club yesterday for the attention of JC. I've just received the reply below from Ant Emmerson. Remains to be seen if Martin is included on the "Senior Management" circulation. I guess we just have to keep the pressure up to try to get rid of Martin. Dear ...., Thank you very much for your email to Stoke City Football Club. The email has been shared with the Senior Management of the Club and they have asked me to pass on appreciation to you for taking the time to make contact and detail your concerns. Rest assured that all at the Club will be giving all we can to end the season as strongly as possible. Thanks again for your email and also for your loyal support. Very best wishes, Anthony Anthony Emmerson Head of Supporter Experience Is that the usual standard reply?
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Post by gingerninja on Feb 21, 2024 13:21:03 GMT
I have had dealings with Anthony Emerson before, he is excellent and is always as helpful and accommodating as he can be. Probably just a standard response, about all he can say really.
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Post by Wizbit on Feb 21, 2024 13:46:20 GMT
I have had dealings with Anthony Emerson before, he is excellent and is always as helpful and accommodating as he can be. Probably just a standard response, about all he can say really. Yeh he can't really add everyone thinks he's a cunt can he lol
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Post by Caerwrangonpotter on Feb 21, 2024 13:54:33 GMT
Please.....let those in authority properly know the feelings of the majority on Saturday with a simple Tricky Ricky chant that can't be drowned out by BBC Radio Stoke, and will be fully reported on here/The Sentivale...it will make a difference.
Vis Unita Fortior....it's time to be heard!
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Post by owdestokie2 on Feb 21, 2024 13:58:00 GMT
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Post by thisisouryear on Feb 21, 2024 14:11:40 GMT
It would be interesting to know what John Rudge did for us because our decline pretty much aligns with him leaving. He left in 2013 then Hughes came in and I would argue that the decline started the day he left and gradually set in during the first couple of years Hughes was manager before everything went to shit and it's been the same since.
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Post by ChesterStokie on Feb 21, 2024 14:16:10 GMT
Sadly, I can see us being stuck with Martin, I can see Schuey being made a scapegoats before Martin. He's a goner mate, the fans have turned on him. We are one person from sorting this club out. Our problems clearly go above any manager or coach. He needs to be replaced with an experienced football person, someone who has worked on the ground level. There's a lack of understanding of what it takes to build a team upstairs, data can find promising individuals it can't create a team. He’s a goner, the fans have turned on him? Hardly. Yes plenty of negativity on social media but I’ve not heard any mass anti-RM chants at ANY of the recent games.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 21, 2024 14:52:08 GMT
I have had dealings with Anthony Emerson before, he is excellent and is always as helpful and accommodating as he can be. Probably just a standard response, about all he can say really. Yeh he can't really add everyone thinks he's a cunt can he lol It would be a pisser if he did though
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Post by LGH87 on Feb 21, 2024 15:15:18 GMT
He's a goner mate, the fans have turned on him. We are one person from sorting this club out. Our problems clearly go above any manager or coach. He needs to be replaced with an experienced football person, someone who has worked on the ground level. There's a lack of understanding of what it takes to build a team upstairs, data can find promising individuals it can't create a team. He’s a goner, the fans have turned on him? Hardly. Yes plenty of negativity on social media but I’ve not heard any mass anti-RM chants at ANY of the recent games. The tide has only really turned in the last 5/6 days though mate in which we've played one game.
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Post by thisisouryear on Feb 21, 2024 15:31:42 GMT
He's a goner mate, the fans have turned on him. We are one person from sorting this club out. Our problems clearly go above any manager or coach. He needs to be replaced with an experienced football person, someone who has worked on the ground level. There's a lack of understanding of what it takes to build a team upstairs, data can find promising individuals it can't create a team. He’s a goner, the fans have turned on him? Hardly. Yes plenty of negativity on social media but I’ve not heard any mass anti-RM chants at ANY of the recent games. I get the feeling the fans are in agreement that he should go and the calls for him to go are growing by the day. I personally think he will be gone within a week
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Post by Gabrielzakuaniandjuliet on Feb 21, 2024 15:42:17 GMT
Five pillars of shit instead of your football is shit! 5th minute 😂
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Post by banksie66 on Feb 21, 2024 17:04:23 GMT
He’s a goner, the fans have turned on him? Hardly. Yes plenty of negativity on social media but I’ve not heard any mass anti-RM chants at ANY of the recent games. I get the feeling the fans are in agreement that he should go and the calls for him to go are growing by the day. I personally think he will be gone within a week 🤞🏻
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Post by lordb on Feb 21, 2024 17:07:37 GMT
It would be interesting to know what John Rudge did for us because our decline pretty much aligns with him leaving. He left in 2013 then Hughes came in and I would argue that the decline started the day he left and gradually set in during the first couple of years Hughes was manager before everything went to shit and it's been the same since. it's a poor argument as 2013 up to the 2016 League Cup semi final saw some of the best football in the clubs history
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Post by mamathestriker on Feb 21, 2024 17:17:59 GMT
It would be interesting to know what John Rudge did for us because our decline pretty much aligns with him leaving. He left in 2013 then Hughes came in and I would argue that the decline started the day he left and gradually set in during the first couple of years Hughes was manager before everything went to shit and it's been the same since. it's a poor argument as 2013 up to the 2016 League Cup semi final saw some of the best football in the clubs history I'd say the demise started when we sold Arnie and replaced with Wimmer, Jese and Chopou. We've never recovered and slowly gotten worse.
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Post by thisisouryear on Feb 21, 2024 17:43:12 GMT
It would be interesting to know what John Rudge did for us because our decline pretty much aligns with him leaving. He left in 2013 then Hughes came in and I would argue that the decline started the day he left and gradually set in during the first couple of years Hughes was manager before everything went to shit and it's been the same since. it's a poor argument as 2013 up to the 2016 League Cup semi final saw some of the best football in the clubs history Yes but we had a stable team when he left, it would have taken a few seasons to destabilise it with the characters we had in the dressing room back then. We wouldn't have noticed the impact straight away, but as we gradually eased those core players out and new ones in its just been going downhill ever since. I think we can go back that far and see this change was the start of everything going wrong.
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Post by banksie66 on Feb 21, 2024 17:50:50 GMT
Both still looking fresh after day one. What’s the wise money on? Day three👍🏼
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Post by redwalter on Feb 21, 2024 18:14:10 GMT
Well he has definitely failed his KPI s
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Post by ceejays on Feb 21, 2024 18:24:28 GMT
KPI stands for king’s performance Insane . A shining light in all the gloom and doom
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Post by owdestokie2 on Feb 21, 2024 20:06:38 GMT
It would be interesting to know what John Rudge did for us because our decline pretty much aligns with him leaving. He left in 2013 then Hughes came in and I would argue that the decline started the day he left and gradually set in during the first couple of years Hughes was manager before everything went to shit and it's been the same since. it's a poor argument as 2013 up to the 2016 League Cup semi final saw some of the best football in the clubs history I’m simply trying to be pragmatic whilst seeking alternative views. People continue to raise 9th place finishes and repeat the same games/score lines in defence of the incumbent management team TS/MH/MC etc. In reality will the history books (our supporters) consider 9th place as a mark in ground for success, after all in TP’s last season 2012/2013 I think we fell short of 9hth place by 4 points. The overarching point being reflected by the current Tottenham Manager when he says at times Character is more important than quality at times and he would be fully behind recruitment on that basis. IMHO we got relegated mainly because of the lack of character in our squad. Who was accountable for that? Were we looking through rose tinted glasses and ignoring the basics. Are we in exactly the same position now as then some six years on in respect of character in the squad?
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Post by FullerMagic on Feb 22, 2024 10:07:53 GMT
Nice to see Tricky's dirty linen being aired in public www.stokesentinel.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/stoke-city-transfer-martin-dublin-9116600To sign 24 players and to see 19 of them fail to start last weekend, speaks volumes. This has been a collective failure from all involved. Whether they’ve been manager picks or Jared Dublin recommendations; they’ve all supposedly passed the now infamous Ricky Martin’s five pillars test. To say this is fundamentally flawed would be a huge understatement. Up to now if we are being brutally honest, we have Wouter Burger, some lovely flashes of skill from Bae Junho (but very little end product) and some energy and enthusiasm from Junior Tchamadeu. In summary we had a blank canvas signed 20+ players and ended up an unbalanced mess - a mess that I’m not sure Ricky Martin will survive.
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Post by Biblical on Feb 22, 2024 10:19:26 GMT
Nice to see Tricky's dirty linen being aired in public www.stokesentinel.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/stoke-city-transfer-martin-dublin-9116600To sign 24 players and to see 19 of them fail to start last weekend, speaks volumes. This has been a collective failure from all involved. Whether they’ve been manager picks or Jared Dublin recommendations; they’ve all supposedly passed the now infamous Ricky Martin’s five pillars test. To say this is fundamentally flawed would be a huge understatement. Up to now if we are being brutally honest, we have Wouter Burger, some lovely flashes of skill from Bae Junho (but very little end product) and some energy and enthusiasm from Junior Tchamadeu. In summary we had a blank canvas signed 20+ players and ended up an unbalanced mess - a mess that I’m not sure Ricky Martin will survive. I’m amazed he’s not been sacked yet. Recruitment is the reason we’re in this mess and Ricky Martin and his 5 pillars of bullshit has played a significant role. We seem to be able to lure managers away from rival teams quite easily so surely we can use the same pull and financial muscle to get a proper DOF or technical director with a reasonable track record of success in instead of this absolute chancer.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 22, 2024 10:57:37 GMT
Nice to see Tricky's dirty linen being aired in public www.stokesentinel.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/stoke-city-transfer-martin-dublin-9116600To sign 24 players and to see 19 of them fail to start last weekend, speaks volumes. This has been a collective failure from all involved. Whether they’ve been manager picks or Jared Dublin recommendations; they’ve all supposedly passed the now infamous Ricky Martin’s five pillars test. To say this is fundamentally flawed would be a huge understatement. Up to now if we are being brutally honest, we have Wouter Burger, some lovely flashes of skill from Bae Junho (but very little end product) and some energy and enthusiasm from Junior Tchamadeu. In summary we had a blank canvas signed 20+ players and ended up an unbalanced mess - a mess that I’m not sure Ricky Martin will survive. I’m amazed he’s not been sacked yet. Recruitment is the reason we’re in this mess and Ricky Martin and his 5 pillars of bullshit has played a significant role. We seem to be able to lure managers away from rival teams quite easily so surely we can use the same pull and financial muscle to get a proper DOF or technical director with a reasonable track record of success in instead of this absolute chancer. .......and that is exactly what he is, a chancer. He came on the recommendation of his mate Alex Neil from Norwich, where he was Technical director and hated by all accounts and we've given him the keys to the club. He should've gone with Neil.
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Post by cheadlestokie on Feb 22, 2024 11:03:39 GMT
Well there didn’t seem to be any discussion or even acknowledgment by JC with Martin at the last two home games and Martin sits in the seat directly behind him.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 22, 2024 11:12:25 GMT
I wonder what it would take to get rid of him? He won't be tied to us like a player in terms of a contract. Surely we could fire him overnight due to the cluster fuck he has created. The club will run, life will go on. I'm not convinced club of our size needs a DOF, its certainly not proving to be successful.
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Post by chamberlain on Feb 22, 2024 11:16:12 GMT
I dont know why he's still here,he's been an absolute disaster.
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