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Post by Pugsley on Feb 19, 2024 9:47:33 GMT
Players found out about being dropped through the medical staff? That's desperately poor (and downright gutless) from the manager if that's true. Let's hope for everyone's sake that it isn't. Or medical staff telling players they aren't fit to play. Agendas...
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Post by satoshi on Feb 19, 2024 9:47:52 GMT
Look at the bench and starting line up and tell me it's an Internet rumour? It's a rumour nothing else. Gouranga. Rumours stop being rumours when they come true. Like this one.
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Post by boltonstokie on Feb 19, 2024 9:54:21 GMT
Last I heard Burger isn't British,does Martin want him dropped too? He was….
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Post by nottsover60 on Feb 19, 2024 9:57:30 GMT
maybe ties in with the rumour about no respect from the players and being inexperienced etc? this will not end well either way Isn't it RM's job to oversee the Transfer amd scouting Department ? So if he's allowed all these foreign players to come in under Jared's Control surely RM's more accountable than anyone else at the club for this current status quo?! Re senior players finding out via medical staff about omission from squad - my understanding is that Iverson and Mcnally came in early for fitness tests which they failed. Presumably that is why they found out from the medical staff as rather than SS who said he got a message about their unavailability. That could be a non story as perfectly understandable
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Post by premieraj on Feb 19, 2024 9:59:29 GMT
Forget all the conspiracy theories at the end of the day we lost again tamely at home!
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Post by mamathestriker on Feb 19, 2024 10:01:52 GMT
maybe ties in with the rumour about no respect from the players and being inexperienced etc? this will not end well either way Isn't it RM's job to oversee the Transfer amd scouting Department ? So if he's allowed all these foreign players to come in under Jared's Control surely RM's more accountable than anyone else at the club for this current status quo?! That's what I don't understand, if it's true we'll he pretty much oversaw all the signings?
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Post by premieraj on Feb 19, 2024 10:03:01 GMT
He’s failed spectacularly fact!
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Post by emretezzy on Feb 19, 2024 10:08:27 GMT
So if this rumour is to be believed, the following timeline has to be roughly true: Pre 14th March: Ricky Martin dislikes the foreign players but Steven Schumacher ignores him and generally plays who he wants (including plenty of foreign lads) 14th March: Stoke beat QPR 1-0 with a team including five foreign players (six if you want to include Junior) in the starting XI and three foreigners coming off the bench 15th March: On the back of his first home win as Stoke manager, Schumacher changes his mind and now agrees with Ricky Martin that the foreign lads are the problem 17th March: Schumacher drops five of the six foreign players that started against QPR. The reason is not because two of them were out injured and one of them visibly took a knock against QPR, but they were dropped because they are not British. It doesn't really stack up does it? The foreign thing is a load of shit clearly. The 4/5 players siding with Maee is true.
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Post by Pugsley on Feb 19, 2024 10:21:36 GMT
So if this rumour is to be believed, the following timeline has to be roughly true: Pre 14th March: Ricky Martin dislikes the foreign players but Steven Schumacher ignores him and generally plays who he wants (including plenty of foreign lads) 14th March: Stoke beat QPR 1-0 with a team including five foreign players (six if you want to include Junior) in the starting XI and three foreigners coming off the bench 15th March: On the back of his first home win as Stoke manager, Schumacher changes his mind and now agrees with Ricky Martin that the foreign lads are the problem 17th March: Schumacher drops five of the six foreign players that started against QPR. The reason is not because two of them were out injured and one of them visibly took a knock against QPR, but they were dropped because they are not British. It doesn't really stack up does it? The foreign thing is a load of shit clearly. The 4/5 players siding with Maee is true. And? Says more about the players and their appalling attitudes. It's looking like fans are siding with players and rallying against the manager. Given the actual shit way they have performed this season, I find this pretty distasteful to be honest.
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Post by Clayton Wood on Feb 19, 2024 10:26:55 GMT
Isn't it RM's job to oversee the Transfer amd scouting Department ? So if he's allowed all these foreign players to come in under Jared's Control surely RM's more accountable than anyone else at the club for this current status quo?! Re senior players finding out via medical staff about omission from squad - my understanding is that Iverson and Mcnally came in early for fitness tests which they failed. Presumably that is why they found out from the medical staff as rather than SS who said he got a message about their unavailability. That could be a non story as perfectly understandable Perfectly understandable for fitness tests. But what about Vidigal, Haks and Leris? We'll soon see IF they turn out at 2pm today.
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Post by FullerMagic on Feb 19, 2024 10:30:17 GMT
www.stokesentinel.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/stoke-city-team-injury-news-9108581Reading his post-game comments, Burger, Bae and Leris are still in the fold and not remotely bomb-squadded. He specifically mentions there's no issue with Leris - and Burger and Bae are clearly 2 of his favourites who appear to have great attitudes (as does Leris) What the truth is with Vidigal and Haksabanovic (and Campbell), who knows? If they're still training with the first team, doesn't seem like they've gone full-Mmaee. But they do seem two of his closer mates in the squad. Most of the changes were obviously fitness-related - but nothing offered to explain those 2 (although senior players will have to miss out every week)
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Post by Biblical on Feb 19, 2024 11:11:02 GMT
Some of this nonsense can be easily dismissed, there’s no agenda against foreign players by Martin and he won’t be influencing team selection.
The ones that were dropped at the weekend just aren’t all that good and as such it’s no surprise if they don’t make the match day squad. Leris made the bench after not being included against Blackburn but it doesn’t matter if it’s him, Haks or Vidigal on the bench really does it. I don’t rate any of them.
The only thing I can see having a bit of truth is some players probably thinking Mmaee is the best option up front and being dismayed that he isn’t playing when we’re in as much shit as we are.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 19, 2024 11:21:07 GMT
Rumours aside, the facts are that Martin was behind the mass clearout in the summer, gave the green light to sign 17 players of most were shite and also sold our first choice left back on deadline day and replaced him with a 33 year old sick note. All of which is translating into the shit we see on the pitch.
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Post by Clayton Wood on Feb 19, 2024 11:28:43 GMT
All those in favour of changing the thread title to Technical Dictator say Aye
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Post by emretezzy on Feb 19, 2024 11:38:35 GMT
The foreign thing is a load of shit clearly. The 4/5 players siding with Maee is true. And? Says more about the players and their appalling attitudes. It's looking like fans are siding with players and rallying against the manager. Given the actual shit way they have performed this season, I find this pretty distasteful to be honest. I'd say the vast majority are with the manager. I can't wait to see the back of half these.
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Post by Gary Hackett on Feb 19, 2024 11:43:58 GMT
www.stokesentinel.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/stoke-city-team-injury-news-9108581Reading his post-game comments, Burger, Bae and Leris are still in the fold and not remotely bomb-squadded. He specifically mentions there's no issue with Leris - and Burger and Bae are clearly 2 of his favourites who appear to have great attitudes (as does Leris) What the truth is with Vidigal and Haksabanovic (and Campbell), who knows? If they're still training with the first team, doesn't seem like they've gone full-Mmaee. But they do seem two of his closer mates in the squad. Most of the changes were obviously fitness-related - but nothing offered to explain those 2 (although senior players will have to miss out every week) Not surprised Haks is involved as he's had issues at previous clubs like Mmaee when he doesn't get selected.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 19, 2024 11:46:11 GMT
And? Says more about the players and their appalling attitudes. It's looking like fans are siding with players and rallying against the manager. Given the actual shit way they have performed this season, I find this pretty distasteful to be honest. I'd say the vast majority are with the manager. I can't wait to see the back of half these. Of course the fans are with the manager, but like at every other club in this country it's the players that get you into and out of any mess you are in. We need as many onside as possible. Once we are safe we can ban them from the club, send them for a long walk down the M6 or on the next flight to Timbuktu for all I care.
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Post by AlbertTatlock on Feb 19, 2024 12:17:19 GMT
It's a rumour nothing else. Gouranga. Rumours stop being rumours when they come true. Like this one. Apart from a few people peddling a dodgy rumour there is no evidence that there is any truth whatsoever in this. If you stand in the town centre and shout oranges it sounds exactly like gullible. go on try it. Gouranga.
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Post by gingerninja on Feb 19, 2024 12:19:30 GMT
Clubs just don't generally sack technical directors as readily as they do managers, so we are stuck with him. More likely if there is disharmony with manager & technical director, there is only one winner 😳😔
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Post by etebojan on Feb 19, 2024 12:22:10 GMT
Clubs just don't generally sack technical directors as readily as they do managers, so we are stuck with him. More likely if there is disharmony with manager & technical director, there is only one winner 😳😔 Hopefully the fact we don't seem to do what other clubs do, means he will infact be sacked...soon
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Post by wakefieldstokie on Feb 19, 2024 12:26:44 GMT
Ricky is doing a great job, he's told us he is.
Thats all we need to know 🤣
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Post by Gary Hackett on Feb 19, 2024 12:36:26 GMT
Clubs just don't generally sack technical directors as readily as they do managers, so we are stuck with him. More likely if there is disharmony with manager & technical director, there is only one winner 😳😔 I don't think that's the case in this scenario. The Technical Director will be sacked before they sack another manager.
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Post by gingerninja on Feb 19, 2024 12:42:27 GMT
We don't know if SS and RM actually get on or see eye to eye, if they don't, it makes it a tough working place..RM completely reshaped the backroom set up, in the mould of Alex Neil, we now stand on the potential threshold of another shake up?.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 19, 2024 12:44:31 GMT
www.stokesentinel.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/stoke-city-team-injury-news-9108581Reading his post-game comments, Burger, Bae and Leris are still in the fold and not remotely bomb-squadded. He specifically mentions there's no issue with Leris - and Burger and Bae are clearly 2 of his favourites who appear to have great attitudes (as does Leris) What the truth is with Vidigal and Haksabanovic (and Campbell), who knows? If they're still training with the first team, doesn't seem like they've gone full-Mmaee. But they do seem two of his closer mates in the squad. Most of the changes were obviously fitness-related - but nothing offered to explain those 2 (although senior players will have to miss out every week) Not surprised Haks is involved as he's had issues at previous clubs like Mmaee when he doesn't get selected. yes, I heard nothing positive about Haks from the Celtic fans i asked about him.
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Post by etebojan on Feb 19, 2024 12:45:13 GMT
You'd imagine JC will be looking for fall guys, to buy him some time a deflect the ire of fans, the Manager variable has been changed very recently, so you'd imagine it would be difficult for JC to dismiss him(but you never know). So then the finger points at Ricky, and Rickys fingers will be pointing at Jared & Schuey. Ricky is responsible for giving Jared a recruitment directive, sanctioning and signing off all signings, but am sure he will try and throw others under the bus for recruitment mistakes, like the bullshitting salesman that he is... Jared will be under fire and so will Schuey from Ricky having quiet words with John, you could imagine it could all get even more tense and toxic behind the scenes and behind closed doors
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Post by Deleted on Feb 19, 2024 12:50:54 GMT
He's got to go
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Post by ravey123 on Feb 19, 2024 12:52:26 GMT
All those in favour of changing the thread title to Technical Dictator say Aye Aye
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Post by gingerninja on Feb 19, 2024 12:54:05 GMT
I think SS is safe, at the last Q&A session, asked for 2 reasons he was optimistic for the future, he said Schumacher and Jun ho👍
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Post by sticky on Feb 19, 2024 12:55:50 GMT
“The players aren’t happy” fuck me read the room you gutless bastards, think how the fans feel! They can fuck right off for me, I’d sooner have a fully committed albeit poor group than these sulky workshy mardarse types.. who let’s be honest are just as shit anyway. What a shit show
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Post by moon on Feb 19, 2024 13:02:44 GMT
Ricky is doing a great job, he's told us he is. Thats all we need to know 🤣 Livin' la Vida Loca It's about time Ricky had his own song to let him know just how much the fans appreciate him.
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