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Post by bayernoatcake on Feb 18, 2024 19:56:22 GMT
Sums up the Martin Effect.... Another example of the sheer lack of due diligence at our club. They only needed to ask a single Norwich fan or anyone connected with the club. The bloke was a car crash at Norwich and is the same here and yet we yet again thought we could take a tarnished person and make it work Totally sums up the shit show we have become Isn’t that most people involved in professional football though? They all bar a very few are hated somewhere. It’s why I have 0 respect for anyone involved in football. They’re all a bit shit and generally get lucky at some point and can’t sustain that. Pro football generally is a merry go round for failures.
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Post by Pugsley on Feb 18, 2024 19:57:11 GMT
Sums up the Martin Effect.... Another example of the sheer lack of due diligence at our club. They only needed to ask a single Norwich fan or anyone connected with the club. The bloke was a car crash at Norwich and is the same here and yet we yet again thought we could take a tarnished person and make it work Totally sums up the shit show we have become None was done. JC courted Neil for so long he was desperate for him to come to Stoke. He agreed to everything that he asked for. Disastrous.
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Post by sufolkstokie on Feb 18, 2024 20:01:20 GMT
Another example of the sheer lack of due diligence at our club. They only needed to ask a single Norwich fan or anyone connected with the club. The bloke was a car crash at Norwich and is the same here and yet we yet again thought we could take a tarnished person and make it work Totally sums up the shit show we have become None was done. JC courted Neil for so long he was desperate for him to come to Stoke. He agreed to everything that he asked for. Disastrous. 100%. I knew he had the reputation way before and sadly it has worked out that way but predictable as usual as the shit show our club has become
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Post by AlbertTatlock on Feb 18, 2024 21:04:04 GMT
Ahh nothing like an internet rumour for people to latch onto. I remember the days when I used to start bullshit rumours and before you knew it the press were repeating it Gouranga. Look at the bench and starting line up and tell me it's an Internet rumour? It's a rumour nothing else. Gouranga.
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Post by lordherefordsknob on Feb 18, 2024 21:12:35 GMT
Look at the bench and starting line up and tell me it's an Internet rumour? It's a rumour nothing else. Gouranga. I thought it was bull too until scheuy said Hoever was a last minute replacement for mccnally..
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Post by gingerninja on Feb 18, 2024 21:13:19 GMT
If that rumour is true, I don't believe it is, we really are in trouble😔
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Post by Gary Hackett on Feb 18, 2024 23:11:33 GMT
Gods had Tricky's number right from the start.
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Post by Gods on Feb 18, 2024 23:26:38 GMT
Gods had Tricky's number right from the start. Yeah, just somehow I didn't like the cut of his jib!
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Post by owdestokie2 on Feb 18, 2024 23:45:14 GMT
Recruitment is a rolling annual task. As the record under his watch has by and large been extremely poor (an understatement?) I’d be very surprised if he will be involved in pen to paper signings for 24/25.
Taxi……..
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Post by banksie66 on Feb 18, 2024 23:54:52 GMT
Recruitment is a rolling annual task. As the record under his watch has by and large been extremely poor (an understatement?) I’d be very surprised if he will be involved in pen to paper signings for 24/25. Taxi…….. But when do you think it’ll arrive? 🚕
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Post by gingerninja on Feb 19, 2024 8:13:07 GMT
Re: the rumour, what exactly is it supposed to be?🤔
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Post by Northy on Feb 19, 2024 8:16:58 GMT
Re: the rumour, what exactly is it supposed to be?🤔 This post from CP I think Didn’t want to be in the squad? What’s this? What have I missed?
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Post by gingerninja on Feb 19, 2024 8:22:33 GMT
Surely that can't be true, although I had heard JDT was going to be appointed at one stage..
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Post by mamathestriker on Feb 19, 2024 8:41:58 GMT
Surely that can't be true, although I had heard JDT was going to be appointed at one stage.. By his own admission, when he joined he said he'd ultimately be judged by the first team's success. Somehow, Ricky, we've become much worse since you joined. Please piss off out of our club.
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Post by etebojan on Feb 19, 2024 8:45:51 GMT
surely he needs to be given the boot now, so that a new Technical Director or ideally a proper Director of Football ( a MON or Pulis type) can be brought in to asses the damage and start working out a plan of action for the summer
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Post by Caerwrangonpotter on Feb 19, 2024 8:59:51 GMT
Has he gone yet?
......and if not why? Because if fan pressure gets managers the sack then why not this fraud?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 19, 2024 9:03:12 GMT
My guess is we will go through another head of recruitment before RM is removed. If the rumours are true then the blame will be put at Dublin's door for the foreign signings, if it hasn't already within the corridors of CW.
Talk about transparent.
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Post by RipRoaringPotter on Feb 19, 2024 9:14:04 GMT
So if this rumour is to be believed, the following timeline has to be roughly true:
Pre 14th March: Ricky Martin dislikes the foreign players but Steven Schumacher ignores him and generally plays who he wants (including plenty of foreign lads)
14th March: Stoke beat QPR 1-0 with a team including five foreign players (six if you want to include Junior) in the starting XI and three foreigners coming off the bench
15th March: On the back of his first home win as Stoke manager, Schumacher changes his mind and now agrees with Ricky Martin that the foreign lads are the problem
17th March: Schumacher drops five of the six foreign players that started against QPR. The reason is not because two of them were out injured and one of them visibly took a knock against QPR, but they were dropped because they are not British.
It doesn't really stack up does it?
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Post by LGH87 on Feb 19, 2024 9:16:49 GMT
What nobody seems to mention so far is that the author of that screenshot/text could've known the line up the night before and made up the bullshit about blaming the foreign players, because it was a coincidence that down to tiredness/injuries that none of them would be starting.
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Post by Clayton Wood on Feb 19, 2024 9:20:36 GMT
Well, the U21 play Brighton today at 2pm (not Sunday as said in the tweet) so we'll soon know if Vidigal is starting.
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Post by Northy on Feb 19, 2024 9:21:59 GMT
So if this rumour is to be believed, the following timeline has to be roughly true: Pre 14th March: Ricky Martin dislikes the foreign players but Steven Schumacher ignores him and generally plays who he wants (including plenty of foreign lads) 14th March: Stoke beat QPR 1-0 with a team including five foreign players (six if you want to include Junior) in the starting XI and three foreigners coming off the bench 15th March: On the back of his first home win as Stoke manager, Schumacher changes his mind and now agrees with Ricky Martin that the foreign lads are the problem 17th March: Schumacher drops five of the six foreign players that started against QPR. The reason is not because two of them were out injured and one of them visibly took a knock against QPR, but they were dropped because they are not British. It doesn't really stack up does it?No it doesn't, as we are only in February at the moment.
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Post by FullerMagic on Feb 19, 2024 9:23:43 GMT
Well, the U21 play Brighton today at 2pm (not Sunday as said in the tweet) so we'll soon know if Vidigal is starting. Looks like it - and Haksabanovic. It'll be interesting to see if Campbell does too. Will Jojic even make the bench? I think that Martin facebook thing is a red herring, but it doesn't detract from the car crash nature of his tenure
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Post by Deleted on Feb 19, 2024 9:25:40 GMT
Players found out about being dropped through the medical staff? That's desperately poor (and downright gutless) from the manager if that's true.
Let's hope for everyone's sake that it isn't.
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Post by Clayton Wood on Feb 19, 2024 9:30:24 GMT
Well, the U21 play Brighton today at 2pm (not Sunday as said in the tweet) so we'll soon know if Vidigal is starting. Looks like it - and Haksabanovic. It'll be interesting to see if Campbell does too. Will Jojic even make the bench? I think that Martin facebook thing is a red herring, but it doesn't detract from the car crash nature of his tenure If that proves to be correct then a whole new can of worms just had the lid blown off. Who communicates with dropped players via the medical staff? I hope/believe Schumacher has more integrity and that is the dark hand of Tricky on this.
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Post by FullerMagic on Feb 19, 2024 9:34:15 GMT
Looks like it - and Haksabanovic. It'll be interesting to see if Campbell does too. Will Jojic even make the bench? I think that Martin facebook thing is a red herring, but it doesn't detract from the car crash nature of his tenure If that proves to be correct then a whole new can of worms just had the lid blown off. Who communicates with dropped players via the medical staff? I hope/believe Schumacher has more integrity and that is the dark hand of Tricky on this. Yeah - doesn't sound great. But you never know what to believe. Who knows what has gone on here - but once agents start leaking stuff to journalists to try and make their clients look like the innocent victims of an unfair manager, rather than spoiled brats, truth goes out of the window
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Post by crowey on Feb 19, 2024 9:35:35 GMT
….. if this and Saturday’s team selection are down to SS and not Tricky Ricky, then he has truly lost the plot in a Mad Nath way
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Post by flea79 on Feb 19, 2024 9:43:27 GMT
….. if this and Saturday’s team selection are down to SS and not Tricky Ricky, then he has truly lost the plot in a Mad Nath way maybe ties in with the rumour about no respect from the players and being inexperienced etc? this will not end well either way
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Post by LGH87 on Feb 19, 2024 9:44:18 GMT
Well, the U21 play Brighton today at 2pm (not Sunday as said in the tweet) so we'll soon know if Vidigal is starting. Looks like it - and Haksabanovic. It'll be interesting to see if Campbell does too. Will Jojic even make the bench? I think that Martin facebook thing is a red herring, but it doesn't detract from the car crash nature of his tenure All stinks of relegation.
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Post by Staffsoatcake on Feb 19, 2024 9:45:21 GMT
Last I heard Burger isn't British,does Martin want him dropped too?
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Post by callas12 on Feb 19, 2024 9:46:49 GMT
….. if this and Saturday’s team selection are down to SS and not Tricky Ricky, then he has truly lost the plot in a Mad Nath way maybe ties in with the rumour about no respect from the players and being inexperienced etc? this will not end well either way Isn't it RM's job to oversee the Transfer amd scouting Department ? So if he's allowed all these foreign players to come in under Jared's Control surely RM's more accountable than anyone else at the club for this current status quo?!
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