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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Feb 10, 2024 22:09:03 GMT
I wouldn't sack him today, pointless atm He should be gone once the season has finished Michael O'Neill as Technical Director please Football and ££££ money smart, flawed football manager (aren't they all) but his skill set fits that role to a tee He could still be NI manager too Something has to give he’s setting the whole culture so he has to go now
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Post by lordb on Feb 10, 2024 22:13:48 GMT
I wouldn't sack him today, pointless atm He should be gone once the season has finished Michael O'Neill as Technical Director please Football and ££££ money smart, flawed football manager (aren't they all) but his skill set fits that role to a tee He could still be NI manager too Something has to give he’s setting the whole culture so he has to go now Now the window is shut what does he actually do? He's not arranging any coaching As far as I can see he has no function atm In which case I've changed my mind sack him now as nothing to lose
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Post by owdestokie2 on Feb 10, 2024 22:14:43 GMT
We had one, I think his name was Scholes 🤔 How much say did Scholes have in reality though? Seems like it was always to family calling the real shots to me. E.g. Nathan Jones being appointed after John’s mate in the pub told him he was good. I wonder what influence Scholes had bringing Cartwright in? A Beswicks weekend away. Call me suspicious Attachment Deleted
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Post by thepottypotter on Feb 10, 2024 22:14:57 GMT
Something has to give he’s setting the whole culture so he has to go now Now the window is shut what does he actually do? He's not arranging any coaching As far as I can see he has no function atm In which case I've changed my mind sack him now as nothing to lose Including saving his wages, at least there will be less bullshit for everyone to deal with.
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Post by starkiller on Feb 11, 2024 1:03:15 GMT
People were lauding this supposed 'modern set-up'.
It was one of the most bizarre pre-season transfer sprees seen in English football.
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Post by starkiller on Feb 11, 2024 1:13:27 GMT
Something has to give he’s setting the whole culture so he has to go now Now the window is shut what does he actually do? He's not arranging any coaching As far as I can see he has no function atm In which case I've changed my mind sack him now as nothing to lose
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Post by FullerMagic on Feb 11, 2024 7:54:23 GMT
The P&G call Pete Smith highlights sums it up. www.stokesentinel.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/stoke-city-blackburn-recruitment-relegation-9092116Radio Stoke’s Praise & Grumble was so lively and busy that it was extended for an hour – and caller after caller came back to recruitment. If you’re in this position at this stage of the season, then everyone will always look at how the squad was put together. In Stoke’s case, no one has to look much past last summer “Ricky Martin has overseen the most disastrous recruitment process at Stoke since I started supporting them in 1992. He’s taken a very average Championship squad and turned it into a very poor Championship squad that can’t score and can’t keep a clean sheet. “We’re now in a relegation battle, it looks like the players aren’t good enough, the character isn’t good enough, and as fans we’re scrabbling around now saying things like, ‘Put Wesley up front’. Wesley is hopeless, but who else are you going to play? Our top scorer is Vidigal, who’s scored five and hasn’t scored for months.” Stoke need more than a rallying call this year.
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Post by premieraj on Feb 11, 2024 8:53:17 GMT
Martin has to go now or season end simples. It was the right thing to get a DOF but sadly JC got the wrong one? He’s a spreadsheet, corporate speak bullshiter that has talked a good game but simply not delivered.
Dublin has got some players right Burger, Bae but the dereliction of duty re left back and centre half is totally unforgivable.
I just hold on to the hope we can scrape up and have yet another rethink? For me sadly Shoey is out of his depth in our current situation and seems rabbit in headlights.
God help us!
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Post by stokiejoe on Feb 11, 2024 8:56:23 GMT
I'm old fashioned, managers should be allowed to manage without interference. The manager is the one who has to face the press and take the blame or the plaudits.
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Post by gingerninja on Feb 11, 2024 8:58:29 GMT
Martin simply can't be in charge for any summer recruitment, SS I would imagine doesn't want to work with him.
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Post by premieraj on Feb 11, 2024 9:00:03 GMT
Does a sacking of Martin affect ffp?
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Post by FullerMagic on Feb 11, 2024 9:00:28 GMT
The process to find a replacement surely has to start ASAP.
You can't just find such a key figure at the drop of a hat, and the clock is ticking for the summer already
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Feb 11, 2024 9:02:41 GMT
Martin simply can't be in charge for any summer recruitment, SS I would imagine doesn't want to work with him. He cant be there on Wednesday it’s black and white if he is its dereliction of leadership by the board as mentioned earlier by Star killer this issue has been obvious and highlighted by me on the 16th Sept , action is far far too late but we have to take it
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Post by premieraj on Feb 11, 2024 9:02:55 GMT
I’m sure all this is why JC looks ill I think he already knows Martin is a failure and has he said you can’t know a manager until they are in the chair and Shoey is lost already…
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Post by questionable on Feb 11, 2024 9:03:44 GMT
The process to find a replacement surely has to start ASAP. You can't just find such a key figure at the drop of a hat, and the clock is ticking for the summer already Problem is mate it’s the people doing the hiring that are the problem
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Post by Deleted on Feb 11, 2024 9:06:47 GMT
The process to find a replacement surely has to start ASAP. You can't just find such a key figure at the drop of a hat, and the clock is ticking for the summer already Problem is mate it’s the people doing the hiring that are the problem That's been obvious to a few for quite some time. Hopefully now the wider audience are waking up to the fact that this club has just one problem.
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Post by prestwichpotter on Feb 11, 2024 9:08:04 GMT
I’m not one for advocating for the return of ex-players for the sake of it but would Bojan as a pure Sporting Director be an option?
He’s got his qualifications recently and is cutting his teeth at Barcelona, his standing and contacts in the game as well as his experience playing (and yes he “knows the club”) would be a good starting point to try and implement a philosophy from the academy thorough to the first team…….
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Post by Deleted on Feb 11, 2024 9:11:08 GMT
I’m not one for advocating for the return of ex-players for the sake of it but would Bojan as a pure Sporting Director be an option? He’s got his qualifications recently and is cutting his teeth at Barcelona, his standing and contacts in the game as well as his experience playing (and yes he “knows the club”) would be a good starting point to try and implement a philosophy from the academy thorough to the first team……. I've also said this for some time too. If he's open to the move it's clear and away the most obvious choice of the lot. He's come through one of the biggest clubs in the world at their peak, with a club philosophy hand designed by one of the games very best (Cruyff). If that can't translate into something remotely half decent at this club then heaven help us.
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Post by stokiejoe on Feb 11, 2024 9:40:33 GMT
The process to find a replacement surely has to start ASAP. You can't just find such a key figure at the drop of a hat, and the clock is ticking for the summer already Simple solution, don't appoint one.
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Post by Trouserdog on Feb 11, 2024 9:43:06 GMT
Every chant on Wednesday needs to be about this fucking charlatan.
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Post by daz1125 on Feb 11, 2024 9:44:14 GMT
I was lucky enough to be sitting in the Directors box at Ewood Park yesterday, and directly behind Ricky Martin. Firstly there was an empty seat between him Dublin Peter and Jon, which did look a bit odd, certainly didn’t seem to be best of friends shall we say as they never once spoke to him, secondly at half time just as everybody got up to go down the tunnel, my rather disgruntled die hard Stokie friend confronted him with “ we don’t need a centre half eh Ricky, we need more wingers ?“, a quote of Ricky’s from the meet the fans forum recently, at which point he just glared back at him then dropped his head and stared at the floor, Jon & Peter left looking at him as if expecting a response, nothing came, he just looked a lost and rather embarrassed soul put right on the spot…out of his depth springs to mind.
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Post by middleoftheboothen on Feb 11, 2024 9:44:36 GMT
I’m not one for advocating for the return of ex-players for the sake of it but would Bojan as a pure Sporting Director be an option? He’s got his qualifications recently and is cutting his teeth at Barcelona, his standing and contacts in the game as well as his experience playing (and yes he “knows the club”) would be a good starting point to try and implement a philosophy from the academy thorough to the first team……. In a heartbeat.
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Post by danceswithclams on Feb 11, 2024 9:46:06 GMT
I miss Cartwright.
(The pie-eating cum-head).
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Post by Dutchpeter on Feb 11, 2024 9:49:11 GMT
I’m not one for advocating for the return of ex-players for the sake of it but would Bojan as a pure Sporting Director be an option? He’s got his qualifications recently and is cutting his teeth at Barcelona, his standing and contacts in the game as well as his experience playing (and yes he “knows the club”) would be a good starting point to try and implement a philosophy from the academy thorough to the first team……. I love the sentiment, but I think a Bojan appointment would suit a Stoke City at the top of the championship or in the premier league. We need to plan for League One and therefore need to recruit subject matter experts for that league. I’m not sure Bojan would be a suitable candidate.
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Post by Clayton Wood on Feb 11, 2024 9:58:46 GMT
Didn't he say at the forum he's working on venues etc for preseason?
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Post by thornestein on Feb 11, 2024 10:00:38 GMT
I’m not one for advocating for the return of ex-players for the sake of it but would Bojan as a pure Sporting Director be an option? He’s got his qualifications recently and is cutting his teeth at Barcelona, his standing and contacts in the game as well as his experience playing (and yes he “knows the club”) would be a good starting point to try and implement a philosophy from the academy thorough to the first team……. I love the sentiment, but I think a Bojan appointment would suit a Stoke City at the top of the championship or in the premier league. We need to plan for League One and therefore need to recruit subject matter experts for that league. I’m not sure Bojan would be a suitable candidate. why wouldn’t he ?
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Post by bunnyscfc on Feb 11, 2024 10:06:56 GMT
I would hate for Bojan to come back to this mess. He deserves better than to work for Stoke. It's Denis Smith all over again.
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Post by FullerMagic on Feb 11, 2024 10:08:47 GMT
Unless I'm missing something, he said this when we'd already submitted a list of 24 players? www.stokesentinel.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/stoke-city-coates-schumacher-martin-9088880Why did we not sign a left-back and centre-half during the January transfer window?Ricky Martin; There’s a few parts to this and I’ll try to get them in a sequence. We had a few loan opportunities and one we wanted to do really early in the window, which we did early in the window with Daniel Iversen coming in. Steven was really keen to bring Luke Cundle in so we felt we wanted to do that so that meant we had used up all our loans. We then had to look at the market and we still felt we had some business. We discussed a lot internally about left-back or left-sided centre-back and we also looked at attacking options as well. What got presented was something from the summer market, when we wanted a wide player, and we discussed that this window was the best opportunity was for permanent deals – not loans – for two attacking players. That’s why we didn’t bring a left-back in. It was reviewed, it was discussed and we did look at everything. The other thing to mention is that we can’t just keep adding players. People might say you could just do another one on top but we have a 25-man squad. On Tuesday we have to put in a 25-man squad and we are at that limit and can’t add any more. We’ve got a good squad. We added 18 players in the summer, we recruited four in the winter. That’s 22 there already. Not all of those count towards the 25-man squad but (with ones already here) we are at the limit. That’s part of the reason in the background as well. All those discussions were done internally. We are really excited about the attacking options, which are not loans, so they are here not just for now but for next season.
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Post by Clayton Wood on Feb 11, 2024 10:15:23 GMT
Unless I'm missing something, he said this when we'd already submitted a list of 24 players? www.stokesentinel.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/stoke-city-coates-schumacher-martin-9088880Why did we not sign a left-back and centre-half during the January transfer window?Ricky Martin; There’s a few parts to this and I’ll try to get them in a sequence. We had a few loan opportunities and one we wanted to do really early in the window, which we did early in the window with Daniel Iversen coming in. Steven was really keen to bring Luke Cundle in so we felt we wanted to do that so that meant we had used up all our loans. We then had to look at the market and we still felt we had some business. We discussed a lot internally about left-back or left-sided centre-back and we also looked at attacking options as well. What got presented was something from the summer market, when we wanted a wide player, and we discussed that this window was the best opportunity was for permanent deals – not loans – for two attacking players. That’s why we didn’t bring a left-back in. It was reviewed, it was discussed and we did look at everything. The other thing to mention is that we can’t just keep adding players. People might say you could just do another one on top but we have a 25-man squad. On Tuesday we have to put in a 25-man squad and we are at that limit and can’t add any more. We’ve got a good squad. We added 18 players in the summer, we recruited four in the winter. That’s 22 there already. Not all of those count towards the 25-man squad but (with ones already here) we are at the limit. That’s part of the reason in the background as well. All those discussions were done internally. We are really excited about the attacking options, which are not loans, so they are here not just for now but for next season. Interesting choice of words? Who presented it? Why was it left over from the summer and not refreshed to the current glaring issues? Too much trouble to do as the manager asked??
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Post by Milkie on Feb 11, 2024 11:00:59 GMT
Once we started chanting about Scholes he was gone, I suspect the family will do the same should the faithful demand he is removed. Looking on, Simon King seems to be doing a great job with the non football side of the club, fan zone, online content, light show , fans connect etc etc it’s completely out of step with the football side of the house, as somebody else has said, ultimately the ONLY KPI that matters is wins, draws and losses, everything else is just a contributory or aggravating factor, he is failing spectacularly!
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