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Post by FullerMagic on Feb 10, 2024 18:27:50 GMT
If groundwork for the summer needs to start months in advance, it's not something where you can just drop the next poor unfortunates in come June or July.
Mind you, if we go down, we'll be looking in very different pools.
Dublin was parachuted in at the end of June, so that may have been an issue in itself. Do you give him another window, or have we already seen enough?
I certainly don't get remotely good vibes from Martin. His position seems untenable
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Post by jontimmis on Feb 10, 2024 18:28:56 GMT
RAG STATUS. Monthly report.
Everything green in every aspect of the club, the only red is our league position as we are pretty shit.
What’s the SWOT analysis?
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Post by dirtygary69 on Feb 10, 2024 18:31:01 GMT
Percy has responded to Higgy on X and I’m struggling to add the post on here…
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Post by stokesaint1 on Feb 10, 2024 18:31:26 GMT
If he's listened to P and G, He will go immediately. The depth of bad feeling against him is massive.
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Post by bertiestan on Feb 10, 2024 18:32:09 GMT
Percy has responded to Higgy on X and I’m struggling to add the post on here… What about mate?
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Post by jontimmis on Feb 10, 2024 18:32:19 GMT
If he's listened to P and G, He will go immediately. The depth of bad feeling against him is massive. Defo.
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Post by SuperRickyFuller on Feb 10, 2024 18:32:49 GMT
Percy has responded to Higgy on X and I’m struggling to add the post on here…
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Post by jontimmis on Feb 10, 2024 18:33:49 GMT
Again another player who knows. Danny was brilliant for us
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Post by Biblical on Feb 10, 2024 18:34:04 GMT
If groundwork for the summer needs to start months in advance, it's not something where you can just drop the next poor unfortunates in come June or July. Mind you, if we go down, we'll be looking in very different pools. Dublin was parachuted in at the end of June, so that may have been an issue in itself. Do you give him another window, or have we already seen enough? I certainly don't get remotely good vibes from Martin. His position seems untenable Percy came out when Neil was sacked and said the organisation for pre-season had been disastrous. That’s within Ricky Martin’s remit and should have seen him off there and then. He’s a chancer imo.
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Post by jontimmis on Feb 10, 2024 18:34:19 GMT
They should bring ex pros into the club the week before a game and get their insight.
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Post by etebojan on Feb 10, 2024 18:39:40 GMT
Percy has responded to Higgy on X and I’m struggling to add the post on here… Surely Ricky Martin and Jared have to walk now, Ricky seems such a fraud, all disingenuous bull sh*t marketing speak but no substance or real proven experience
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Post by Deleted on Feb 10, 2024 19:26:22 GMT
He needs to go and should have been sacked on the spot the other night when he was sniggering about KPIs. I'd like to shove one of them up his arsehole.
Jared I would still keep around bizarrely. Under the right environment I think there is something there.
The bigger issue is the owner though, who is increasingly showing the harrowing signs of taking this club into the third tier and beyond without any signs of having the nous or drive to turn it around. His answer the other night on what is to be positive about (His answer being Schumacher and Bae) was downright embarrassing. Like fingers in ears embarrassing.
There's literally nothing there between the ears.
Trust me when I say this. Relegation in May won't be the end of it under this ownership.
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Post by Clayton Wood on Feb 10, 2024 19:48:17 GMT
He needs to go and should have been sacked on the spot the other night when he was sniggering about KPIs. I'd like to shove one of them up his arsehole. Jared I would still keep around bizarrely. Under the right environment I think there is something there. The bigger issue is the owner though, who is increasingly showing the harrowing signs of taking this club into the third tier and beyond without any signs of having the nous or drive to turn it around. His answer the other night on what is to be positive about (His answer being Schumacher and Bae) was downright embarrassing. Like fingers in ears embarrassing. There's literally nothing there between the ears. Trust me when I say this. Relegation in May won't be the end of it under this ownership. Knowing the state of the club what may have occurred is: John wakes up one morning and the penny drops he needs someone to take over the football admin, hurrah! He floats the idea with AN to sound him out, klaxon. AN says leave it with me I've got a mate who can do it, red alert. JC is so relieved to avoid having to take expert advice a simple PowerPoint presentation, KPI's & pillars wins the day, pull up, pull up beep beep. Tricky Ricky & Yankee Google Dandy are now in charge of the good ship SCFC.
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Post by danceswithclams on Feb 10, 2024 19:54:33 GMT
He needs to go and should have been sacked on the spot the other night when he was sniggering about KPIs. I'd like to shove one of them up his arsehole. Jared I would still keep around bizarrely. Under the right environment I think there is something there. The bigger issue is the owner though, who is increasingly showing the harrowing signs of taking this club into the third tier and beyond without any signs of having the nous or drive to turn it around. His answer the other night on what is to be positive about (His answer being Schumacher and Bae) was downright embarrassing. Like fingers in ears embarrassing. There's literally nothing there between the ears. Trust me when I say this. Relegation in May won't be the end of it under this ownership. The Coates Family are steadily strangling this great club through sheer incompetence. You can bet though that there'll still be people on here and amongst the general support who'll still be defending them when we're lining up against Solihull Moors in a couple of years time. There's a very good chance that we could do an Oldham/Chesterfield/Southend whilst these berks remain in control.
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Post by greyface on Feb 10, 2024 19:57:41 GMT
RiKPI Martin - get out of our club. Fucking shambles. Not a fucking clue. Don’t forget that Alex Neil basically appointed this fraud.
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Post by LGH87 on Feb 10, 2024 19:58:12 GMT
He needs to go and should have been sacked on the spot the other night when he was sniggering about KPIs. I'd like to shove one of them up his arsehole. Jared I would still keep around bizarrely. Under the right environment I think there is something there. The bigger issue is the owner though, who is increasingly showing the harrowing signs of taking this club into the third tier and beyond without any signs of having the nous or drive to turn it around. His answer the other night on what is to be positive about (His answer being Schumacher and Bae) was downright embarrassing. Like fingers in ears embarrassing. There's literally nothing there between the ears. Trust me when I say this. Relegation in May won't be the end of it under this ownership. Armed with the biggest budget In league one thanks to their different FFP rules regarding revenue and wages. We’d spend a load of money on dog shit. See 2018
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Post by vicarious on Feb 10, 2024 20:00:41 GMT
He needs to go and should have been sacked on the spot the other night when he was sniggering about KPIs. I'd like to shove one of them up his arsehole. Jared I would still keep around bizarrely. Under the right environment I think there is something there. The bigger issue is the owner though, who is increasingly showing the harrowing signs of taking this club into the third tier and beyond without any signs of having the nous or drive to turn it around. His answer the other night on what is to be positive about (His answer being Schumacher and Bae) was downright embarrassing. Like fingers in ears embarrassing. There's literally nothing there between the ears. Trust me when I say this. Relegation in May won't be the end of it under this ownership. The Coates Family are steadily strangling this great club through sheer incompetence. You can bet though that there'll still be people on here and amongst the general support who'll still be defending them when we're lining up against Solihull Moors in a couple of years time. There's a very good chance that we could do an Oldham/Chesterfield/Southend whilst these berks remain in control. As long as we’re leveraging strategies, merchandising the brand to determine new spaces, I think it would be ok .
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Post by gingerninja on Feb 10, 2024 20:02:39 GMT
It's a really worrying situation we find ourselves in for sure, we look incapable of scoring more than one goal and capacity to concede quite a few.. Not good, can only hope & pray there remain 3 worse than us come May🤞
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Post by bunnyscfc on Feb 10, 2024 20:06:14 GMT
Getting lots of messages tonight......strange how a shitshow brings them eh?
But it's a total shitshow, with zero leadership, and what we are seeing at 3pm is just a small part of it.
The train set needs handing back or handing over. Would bet365 be run like this?
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Post by thepottypotter on Feb 10, 2024 20:13:01 GMT
The Coates Family are steadily strangling this great club through sheer incompetence. You can bet though that there'll still be people on here and amongst the general support who'll still be defending them when we're lining up against Solihull Moors in a couple of years time. There's a very good chance that we could do an Oldham/Chesterfield/Southend whilst these berks remain in control. As long as we’re leveraging strategies, merchandising the brand to determine new spaces, I think it would be ok . I think you could take over Ricky’s job. Just message JC what a top bloke you are and meet him for a pint, the job would be yours!
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Post by tuum on Feb 10, 2024 20:14:00 GMT
He needs to go and should have been sacked on the spot the other night when he was sniggering about KPIs. I'd like to shove one of them up his arsehole. Jared I would still keep around bizarrely. Under the right environment I think there is something there. The bigger issue is the owner though, who is increasingly showing the harrowing signs of taking this club into the third tier and beyond without any signs of having the nous or drive to turn it around. His answer the other night on what is to be positive about (His answer being Schumacher and Bae) was downright embarrassing. Like fingers in ears embarrassing. There's literally nothing there between the ears. Trust me when I say this. Relegation in May won't be the end of it under this ownership. The Coates Family are steadily strangling this great club through sheer incompetence. You can bet though that there'll still be people on here and amongst the general support who'll still be defending them when we're lining up against Solihull Moors in a couple of years time. There's a very good chance that we could do an Oldham/Chesterfield/Southend whilst these berks remain in control. Yep. I will be one of them. I have no issues with the owners. I am very much in the 'careful what you wish for' camp.
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Post by telfordstokie on Feb 10, 2024 20:32:38 GMT
We’re onto our fifth manager since relegation (might be sixth before not too long) and I would guess there’s been 100-plus players in and out the door in that time.
The one constant at the top of the club has been John Coates - in anything other than a family-owned business, a board/shareholders would have acted well before now to remove a leader who has overseen years of failure, huge financial losses and what is very clearly a toxic workplace. Some pride needs swallowing and at the very least a strong chief executive with genuine decision-making power and football experience needs to come in with John Coates taking a backseat role.
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Post by danceswithclams on Feb 10, 2024 20:39:06 GMT
The Coates Family are steadily strangling this great club through sheer incompetence. You can bet though that there'll still be people on here and amongst the general support who'll still be defending them when we're lining up against Solihull Moors in a couple of years time. There's a very good chance that we could do an Oldham/Chesterfield/Southend whilst these berks remain in control. Yep. I will be one of them. I have no issues with the owners. I am very much in the 'careful what you wish for' camp. Well good for you. Enjoy your free bus to Barrow (a).
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Post by Deleted on Feb 10, 2024 20:50:01 GMT
He needs to go and should have been sacked on the spot the other night when he was sniggering about KPIs. I'd like to shove one of them up his arsehole. Jared I would still keep around bizarrely. Under the right environment I think there is something there. The bigger issue is the owner though, who is increasingly showing the harrowing signs of taking this club into the third tier and beyond without any signs of having the nous or drive to turn it around. His answer the other night on what is to be positive about (His answer being Schumacher and Bae) was downright embarrassing. Like fingers in ears embarrassing. There's literally nothing there between the ears. Trust me when I say this. Relegation in May won't be the end of it under this ownership. Armed with the biggest budget In league one thanks to their different FFP rules regarding revenue and wages. We’d spend a load of money on dog shit. See 2018 What are the SCMP rules in League One?
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Post by pushon on Feb 10, 2024 21:25:56 GMT
We’re onto our fifth manager since relegation (might be sixth before not too long) and I would guess there’s been 100-plus players in and out the door in that time. The one constant at the top of the club has been John Coates - in anything other than a family-owned business, a board/shareholders would have acted well before now to remove a leader who has overseen years of failure, huge financial losses and what is very clearly a toxic workplace. Some pride needs swallowing and at the very least a strong chief executive with genuine decision-making power and football experience needs to come in with John Coates taking a backseat role. We had one, I think his name was Scholes 🤔
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Feb 10, 2024 21:27:43 GMT
We’re onto our fifth manager since relegation (might be sixth before not too long) and I would guess there’s been 100-plus players in and out the door in that time. The one constant at the top of the club has been John Coates - in anything other than a family-owned business, a board/shareholders would have acted well before now to remove a leader who has overseen years of failure, huge financial losses and what is very clearly a toxic workplace. Some pride needs swallowing and at the very least a strong chief executive with genuine decision-making power and football experience needs to come in with John Coates taking a backseat role. We had one, I think his name was Scholes 🤔 It’s hard to make this worse but you just found a way 😉
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Post by telfordstokie on Feb 10, 2024 21:39:03 GMT
We’re onto our fifth manager since relegation (might be sixth before not too long) and I would guess there’s been 100-plus players in and out the door in that time. The one constant at the top of the club has been John Coates - in anything other than a family-owned business, a board/shareholders would have acted well before now to remove a leader who has overseen years of failure, huge financial losses and what is very clearly a toxic workplace. Some pride needs swallowing and at the very least a strong chief executive with genuine decision-making power and football experience needs to come in with John Coates taking a backseat role. We had one, I think his name was Scholes 🤔 How much say did Scholes have in reality though? Seems like it was always to family calling the real shots to me. E.g. Nathan Jones being appointed after John’s mate in the pub told him he was good.
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Post by kjpt140v on Feb 10, 2024 21:47:02 GMT
I feel Martin let the cat out of the bag Thursday evening at the staged forum.
When asked about not signing defenders in the window, he said that there was a need for strikers, but wasn't he behind the signing of Mmaee and Wesley. Surely those were the strikers Stoke needed, or did his KPIs let him down.
I'll be happy to see Martin go. I don't want players chosen using stats, it obviously doesn't work. Use your stats, but get out there with a coach or manager and watch targets play.
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Post by pushon on Feb 10, 2024 21:59:47 GMT
We had one, I think his name was Scholes 🤔 How much say did Scholes have in reality though? Seems like it was always to family calling the real shots to me. E.g. Nathan Jones being appointed after John’s mate in the pub told him he was good. I can't imagine John has many mates, so it was probably TS role-playing for his directorship🤫
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Post by lordb on Feb 10, 2024 22:04:15 GMT
I wouldn't sack him today, pointless atm He should be gone once the season has finished Michael O'Neill as Technical Director please Football and ££££ money smart, flawed football manager (aren't they all) but his skill set fits that role to a tee He could still be NI manager too
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