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Post by prestwichpotter on Apr 8, 2024 19:28:40 GMT
You think Brighton are going to be around in the top flight forever do you? Let’s see where they are in five years. Their “best of the rest” crown that they took from us is starting to slip along with Brentford. There’s no such thing as a “top 6-10 club” for us at that level. You’ve got the massive superpowers, and then the rest of us who just keep swapping places and fighting either to stay up or come back up. I think they’ve given themselves the footing to stay at a higher level than us yes. Their infrastructure is far superior to ours in every sense. And this is forgetting that technically the club don’t own the ground or training ground. Neither do Brighton do they? Owned by the local council and the University…… |
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Post by davejohnno1 on Apr 8, 2024 19:29:05 GMT
Incorrect and you’re totally naive and delusional if you thought otherwise. Shame you couldn’t have enjoyed it more. The chances are you won’t see it again… How is it incorrect? 🤣 There was far more lax ffp rules and we could have done what we wanted if we wanted to. We could have made ourselves a top 6-10 club if we wanted to. Clearly if Coates said we were punching then there was no appetite for that which is a real shame. And tbh what’s the fucking point if you’ve got all that money? You look at Brighton and the stadium, training ground and academy they have as a legacy. We kind of have that but everything to a much lower level. The new improvement to the training ground though is much needed but still won’t put it amongst the best. And I don’t think for the money they have, that is too much to ask for. It just seems like a great opportunity missed. What is the legacy? Not much and that’s the sad reality of it. I enjoyed it lots thanks. I was at Brightons training ground last week. It was good but it wasn’t as good as many I’ve been to and wasn’t a million miles ahead of ours…perhaps only an indoor facility ahead in reality. As for the ground itself I can only assume you’ve never been there. |
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Post by peterthornesboots on Apr 8, 2024 19:32:03 GMT
Good luck to Walters.
For someone who is relatively inexperienced, he has a massive task ahead of him in the summer (assuming that we actually claw our way to survival).
It is hard to know how much impact he has had on the club since his interim appointment. Ultimately, I doubt many (if any) of us on this board know much about the inner workings of the club - so it is impossible to judge.
Fingers crossed that he can get this club turned around though. We have been in terminal decline for far too long.
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Post by OldStokie on Apr 8, 2024 19:35:07 GMT
He's certainly a big improvement on the last one who did his job. Time will tell whether he's successful but he's certainly not lacking in passion for the club and its fans. If he and Schumacher get on well together then, with time, this could be the change in fortunes we've all been calling for.
Good luck Jon and fingers crossed it all works out for you..
OS.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 8, 2024 19:37:56 GMT
Got to hope he works out. Won’t be for lack of trying if he doesn’t.
We must have one of the most inexperienced coach and senior staff set ups in the league.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Apr 8, 2024 19:38:01 GMT
I think they’ve given themselves the footing to stay at a higher level than us yes. Their infrastructure is far superior to ours in every sense. And this is forgetting that technically the club don’t own the ground or training ground. Neither do Brighton do they? Owned by the local council and the University…… No idea tbh 🤣🤣but if they do then I take it all back! I just think for us it’s shocking and no good reason for it. |
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Apr 8, 2024 19:38:50 GMT
He is getting the job and rightly so it vastly reduces the risk factor which in our case is very high in external unknown appointments as history shows He’s done a decent short terms job and i for one sish him the best of luck over a critical summer. Somebody knows the inside track 😉 |
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Post by mickstupp on Apr 8, 2024 19:41:14 GMT
He is getting the job and rightly so it vastly reduces the risk factor which in our case is very high in external unknown appointments as history shows He’s done a decent short terms job and i for one sish him the best of luck over a critical summer. Somebody knows the inside track 😉 Somebody there is stating the bloody obvious that all of us knew was going to happen. |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Apr 8, 2024 19:42:39 GMT
How is it incorrect? 🤣 There was far more lax ffp rules and we could have done what we wanted if we wanted to. We could have made ourselves a top 6-10 club if we wanted to. Clearly if Coates said we were punching then there was no appetite for that which is a real shame. And tbh what’s the fucking point if you’ve got all that money? You look at Brighton and the stadium, training ground and academy they have as a legacy. We kind of have that but everything to a much lower level. The new improvement to the training ground though is much needed but still won’t put it amongst the best. And I don’t think for the money they have, that is too much to ask for. It just seems like a great opportunity missed. What is the legacy? Not much and that’s the sad reality of it. I enjoyed it lots thanks. I was at Brightons training ground last week. It was good but it wasn’t as good as many I’ve been to and wasn’t a million miles ahead of ours…perhaps only an indoor facility ahead in reality. As for the ground itself I can only assume you’ve never been there. I haven’t but it looks amazing. And got to love a public transport only venue……. I actually mean that too 🤣🤣 |
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Post by suck_the_mop. on Apr 8, 2024 19:43:22 GMT
Good luck to SJW hope he does the business, he can't be any worse than the bullshit martin came out with..
This board love it and it makes me depressed with the negativity..
Am i happy with the last 6 years.. no
Do i think the owners could of done better and not made the mistakes they have.. yes
Can i do anything about it?.. can i fuck only withdraw my support which I'm not prepared to do.
Some on here would say we want a top striker we have the £££ so we sign messi then all be negative because they think we should of signed nbappe instead..
The owners should sell we say.. perhaps but it would really really worry me who would end up with it and to be honest i don't think anyone would want it, so lets hope for the best and hope it all comes together again.
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Post by Biblical on Apr 8, 2024 19:48:15 GMT
I'm surprised at the amount of people that are blindly backing it. He's had 6 months at Fleetwood Town. We wouldn't be happy with an ex player as manager with the same level of experience. Sporting Director's are just as important in modern football structures. It'd be interesting to know how many recent appointees in the role, certainly at our level, had hands-on experience in the exact role though. Probably not that many - with most being first-time appointees based on some broad skill set and personality type they are deemed to have? There are only really the trailblazers like Ashworth and Hughes with some kind of track record who are being headhunted domestically. Freedman, for example, had none (although he had a brief career as a manager). And he's lasted 7 years at Palace. Same with Hughes at Bournemouth who lasted a decade before being headhunted by Liverpool. It’s difficult to know who we could’ve attracted at this level isn’t it. |
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Post by prestwichpotter on Apr 8, 2024 19:52:10 GMT
I was at Brightons training ground last week. It was good but it wasn’t as good as many I’ve been to and wasn’t a million miles ahead of ours…perhaps only an indoor facility ahead in reality. As for the ground itself I can only assume you’ve never been there. I haven’t but it looks amazing. And got to love a public transport only venue……. I actually mean that too 🤣🤣 Brighton’s ground is an absolute nightmare to get away from, arguably the worst in the whole of the Football League…… |
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Post by lordb on Apr 8, 2024 19:52:14 GMT
You think Brighton are going to be around in the top flight forever do you? Let’s see where they are in five years. Their “best of the rest” crown that they took from us is starting to slip along with Brentford. There’s no such thing as a “top 6-10 club” for us at that level. You’ve got the massive superpowers, and then the rest of us who just keep swapping places and fighting either to stay up or come back up. I think they’ve given themselves the footing to stay at a higher level than us yes. Their infrastructure is far superior to ours in every sense. And this is forgetting that technically the club don’t own the ground or training ground. Still won't be shocked to see Brighton get relegated within 5 years It's hard to keep selling players and replace them with gems for miles less One bad manager away from hard times, same with everyone apart from the protected clubs |
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Post by mickstupp on Apr 8, 2024 19:54:38 GMT
I think they’ve given themselves the footing to stay at a higher level than us yes. Their infrastructure is far superior to ours in every sense. And this is forgetting that technically the club don’t own the ground or training ground. Still won't be shocked to see Brighton get relegated within 5 years It's hard to keep selling players and replace them with gems for miles less One bad manager away from hard times, same with everyone apart from the protected clubs Exactly this. They are having a good spell and credit to them, but it won’t last. Look at Leicester. They won the FA Cup three years ago and won the league in 15/16. A few years later they got dumped just like we did. |
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Post by lordb on Apr 8, 2024 19:57:30 GMT
Still won't be shocked to see Brighton get relegated within 5 years It's hard to keep selling players and replace them with gems for miles less One bad manager away from hard times, same with everyone apart from the protected clubs Exactly this. They are having a good spell and credit to them, but it won’t last. Look at Leicester. They won the FA Cup three years ago and won the league in 15/16. A few years later they got dumped just like we did. Don't get me wrong, good luck to them, it's great to see such clubs develop and become good top flight sides, hope they win a trophy and keep playing attractive football Just expect them to see them in the Championship or even League 1 |
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Post by jesusmcmuffin on Apr 8, 2024 19:57:59 GMT
I haven’t but it looks amazing. And got to love a public transport only venue……. I actually mean that too 🤣🤣 Brighton’s ground is an absolute nightmare to get away from, arguably the worst in the whole of the Football League…… Palace comes close. Should rename their derby game Any team bar the very big boys will be relegated at one point. |
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Post by smallthorner on Apr 8, 2024 20:02:51 GMT
"Sporting" Director.
Is that a new position?
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Post by WorkingclassHero on Apr 8, 2024 20:04:17 GMT
Decent appointment this.
His arrival has coincided with a positive vibe and a general uptick in form.
Could be a masterstroke this
Fingers crossed
Goarrrn Jon
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Post by stokieinlondon on Apr 8, 2024 20:06:28 GMT
Heard he was previously travelling, exploring himself/Asia. With his boyfriend? |
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Post by prestwichpotter on Apr 8, 2024 20:07:19 GMT
Brighton’s ground is an absolute nightmare to get away from, arguably the worst in the whole of the Football League…… Palace comes close. Should rename their derby game Any team bar the very big boys will be relegated at one point. Palace isn’t great but there isn’t a 90 minute wait for a train like there is at the AMEX, especially for night games…… |
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Post by Gabrielzakuaniandjuliet on Apr 8, 2024 20:08:35 GMT
Incorrect and you’re totally naive and delusional if you thought otherwise. Shame you couldn’t have enjoyed it more. The chances are you won’t see it again… How is it incorrect? 🤣 There was far more lax ffp rules and we could have done what we wanted if we wanted to. We could have made ourselves a top 6-10 club if we wanted to. Clearly if Coates said we were punching then there was no appetite for that which is a real shame. And tbh what’s the fucking point if you’ve got all that money? You look at Brighton and the stadium, training ground and academy they have as a legacy. We kind of have that but everything to a much lower level. The new improvement to the training ground though is much needed but still won’t put it amongst the best. And I don’t think for the money they have, that is too much to ask for. It just seems like a great opportunity missed. What is the legacy? Not much and that’s the sad reality of it. I enjoyed it lots thanks. I think gravity always wins for clubs that can't quite keep up financially. Brighton will keep trying to replace big money players and managers with cheaper alternatives but at some point the quality is bound to drop. I wouldn't be surprised to see them relegated in a couple of years. Leicester are another example. The sad thing really is that those clubs definitely made better choices and made much more of their time in the sun than we did. |
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Post by prestwichpotter on Apr 8, 2024 20:09:28 GMT
I think they’ve given themselves the footing to stay at a higher level than us yes. Their infrastructure is far superior to ours in every sense. And this is forgetting that technically the club don’t own the ground or training ground. Still won't be shocked to see Brighton get relegated within 5 years It's hard to keep selling players and replace them with gems for miles less One bad manager away from hard times, same with everyone apart from the protected clubs Southampton were selling player after a player at a premium and one bad season of reinvestment and they were on a slippery slope, Brighton could be the same….. |
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Post by mrcoke on Apr 8, 2024 20:20:26 GMT
Best of luck to him, he deserves the chance.
His record as a player does not have relevance to his ability to do the job, but it does mean as a regular scorer in the world's toughest league he deserves respect as someone whose " done it".
More relevant though is his ability with dealing with people and Jon has "experience" dealing with Pulis , Keane, and Hughes so I expect he can handle dealing with any player or agent. As an Irish man I expect he has also got the "Blarney" and can persuade players to sign for Stoke.
Grest news.
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Post by gingerninja on Apr 8, 2024 20:21:08 GMT
I do feel a few "know the club" people being recruited by him moving forward😉
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Post by davejohnno1 on Apr 8, 2024 20:23:05 GMT
I was at Brightons training ground last week. It was good but it wasn’t as good as many I’ve been to and wasn’t a million miles ahead of ours…perhaps only an indoor facility ahead in reality. As for the ground itself I can only assume you’ve never been there. I haven’t but it looks amazing. And got to love a public transport only venue……. I actually mean that too 🤣🤣 That probably says more about you than it does the quality of their stadium 😂 (I mean that in the nicest way possible) |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Apr 8, 2024 20:23:27 GMT
I haven’t but it looks amazing. And got to love a public transport only venue……. I actually mean that too 🤣🤣 Brighton’s ground is an absolute nightmare to get away from, arguably the worst in the whole of the Football League…… That’s down to bad execution then. There’s no reason it shouldn’t work. |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Apr 8, 2024 20:23:48 GMT
I haven’t but it looks amazing. And got to love a public transport only venue……. I actually mean that too 🤣🤣 That probably says more about you than it does the quality of their stadium 😂 (I mean that in the nicest way possible) I fucking love public transport yes 🤣 |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Apr 8, 2024 20:25:56 GMT
I think they’ve given themselves the footing to stay at a higher level than us yes. Their infrastructure is far superior to ours in every sense. And this is forgetting that technically the club don’t own the ground or training ground. Still won't be shocked to see Brighton get relegated within 5 years It's hard to keep selling players and replace them with gems for miles less One bad manager away from hard times, same with everyone apart from the protected clubs Maybe so yeah. They do seem to have a conveyabelt though. Made a 100m profit last season didnt they? Got loads of salable assets and are signing more too. It’s such a good model. |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Apr 8, 2024 20:29:02 GMT
How is it incorrect? 🤣 There was far more lax ffp rules and we could have done what we wanted if we wanted to. We could have made ourselves a top 6-10 club if we wanted to. Clearly if Coates said we were punching then there was no appetite for that which is a real shame. And tbh what’s the fucking point if you’ve got all that money? You look at Brighton and the stadium, training ground and academy they have as a legacy. We kind of have that but everything to a much lower level. The new improvement to the training ground though is much needed but still won’t put it amongst the best. And I don’t think for the money they have, that is too much to ask for. It just seems like a great opportunity missed. What is the legacy? Not much and that’s the sad reality of it. I enjoyed it lots thanks. I think gravity always wins for clubs that can't quite keep up financially. Brighton will keep trying to replace big money players and managers with cheaper alternatives but at some point the quality is bound to drop. I wouldn't be surprised to see them relegated in a couple of years. Leicester are another example. The sad thing really is that those clubs definitely made better choices and made much more of their time in the sun than we did. Leicester is an odd one. I hate Rodgers so I immediately go there and think what an awful appointment but know I’m blinded that I think he’s a sack of shit anyway so that view is biased. But what actually went wrong? Is it crass to suggest their owner dying was the catalyst? After that helicopter crash they didn’t seem to be the same. Was he the driving force? They don’t seem to have done much wrong on the face of it though? |
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Post by Kenilworth_Stokies on Apr 8, 2024 20:29:20 GMT
I'm surprised by the amount of negativity at this announcement, even for the chronically depressive Oatcake. The turnaround in the team's attitude has been remarkable since Walters arrived, albeit we are still far from where we need to be. But to have somebody on board who knows what it means to pull together as a team and punch above your weight is invaluable. Good luck to the guy.
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