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Post by Deleted on Mar 29, 2024 7:26:40 GMT
<Looks back at the Athletic thread>
Oh yeah, that bit where the ex employee says Coates falls in love with people, allows them to run things completely before he wakes up and sacks them...
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Post by questionable on Mar 29, 2024 7:49:44 GMT
I’ve watched the video and it’s the same spin via a different face, Coates family hoping by getting in ex-players will get pulses racing and ST’s flowing.
The phrase building blocks one by one pretty much indicates preparation possibilities for relegation and rebuild from there, absolute rubbish you don’t start from the very beginning at a professional club, foundations should always be in place regardless.
Frightening that he also mentioned want to be known for bringing up coaches and the recent shuffle around of staff, stinks that we’re re jigging thinks “across” all squads at the club more so as there’s only a few games left.
More importantly why aren’t we looking at the very top for changes as they’ve overseen the whole shit show year after year
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Post by CBUFAWKIPWH on Mar 29, 2024 8:23:14 GMT
I’ve watched the video and it’s the same spin via a different face, Coates family hoping by getting in ex-players will get pulses racing and ST’s flowing. The phrase building blocks one by one pretty much indicates preparation possibilities for relegation and rebuild from there, absolute rubbish you don’t start from the very beginning at a professional club, foundations should always be in place regardless. Frightening that he also mentioned want to be known for bringing up coaches and the recent shuffle around of staff, stinks that we’re re jigging thinks “across” all squads at the club more so as there’s only a few games left. More importantly why aren’t we looking at the very top for changes as they’ve overseen the whole shit show year after year When you say "why aren't we looking at the very top" who do you mean by "we"? If you mean the supporters you are pissing in the wind - unless you want to organise a supporter led buy out "we" don't have any say in the matter. Good luck persuading the supporter base to "invest" (aka flush money down the toilet) in a football club. The other option is to kidnap a passing billionaire and forcibly replacing the current owners. A bit illegal that one. |
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Post by davethebass on Mar 29, 2024 8:27:18 GMT
On the athletic thread after watching that vid I suggested Les Ferdinand as possible technical director. Reading some comments here and having just watched the Jon Walters video, I reckon I'd rather we kept Jon Walters.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Mar 29, 2024 10:04:17 GMT
He’s definitely chief cheerleader.
Pathetic.
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Post by questionable on Mar 29, 2024 10:51:29 GMT
I’ve watched the video and it’s the same spin via a different face, Coates family hoping by getting in ex-players will get pulses racing and ST’s flowing. The phrase building blocks one by one pretty much indicates preparation possibilities for relegation and rebuild from there, absolute rubbish you don’t start from the very beginning at a professional club, foundations should always be in place regardless. Frightening that he also mentioned want to be known for bringing up coaches and the recent shuffle around of staff, stinks that we’re re jigging thinks “across” all squads at the club more so as there’s only a few games left. More importantly why aren’t we looking at the very top for changes as they’ve overseen the whole shit show year after year When you say "why aren't we looking at the very top" who do you mean by "we"? If you mean the supporters you are pissing in the wind - unless you want to organise a supporter led buy out "we" don't have any say in the matter. Good luck persuading the supporter base to "invest" (aka flush money down the toilet) in a football club. The other option is to kidnap a passing billionaire and forcibly replacing the current owners. A bit illegal that one. How’ve you come to that conclusion?? I mean the owners |
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Post by conzdad on Mar 29, 2024 11:20:53 GMT
On the athletic thread after watching that vid I suggested Les Ferdinand as possible technical director. Reading some comments here and having just watched the Jon Walters video, I reckon I'd rather we kept Jon Walters. What if Jon Walters IS only interim,would Ferdinand still be your suggested choice? Just curious |
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Post by J-Roar on Mar 29, 2024 12:26:38 GMT
On the athletic thread after watching that vid I suggested Les Ferdinand as possible technical director. Reading some comments here and having just watched the Jon Walters video, I reckon I'd rather we kept Jon Walters. What if Jon Walters IS only interim,would Ferdinand still be your suggested choice? Just curious I'd rather have Franz Ferdinand. |
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Post by Olgrligm on Mar 29, 2024 12:59:27 GMT
I think that the job should be his.
Successful clubs appoint football people to these roles, often ones who have some association with the club. Go through the list of First Division teams and see who they've got in the role.
The odd club has had a run of success with an outside business-type and they are seldom able to repeat their success elsewhere. They also seem to come with abrasive personalities. In fact, look at the most underperforming clubs in the top division: Chelsea, Newcastle, Man Utd. All teams who have gone out and spent an absolute ton bringing in the best-in-the-business commercial-type to their club.
Funnily enough, the most overperforming team in the top division, Villa, allowed their manager to appoint a bloke that he worked with at Sevilla.
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Post by Marc01 on Mar 29, 2024 13:22:33 GMT
I think that the job should be his. Successful clubs appoint football people to these roles, often ones who have some association with the club. Go through the list of First Division teams and see who they've got in the role. The odd club has had a run of success with an outside business-type and they are seldom able to repeat their success elsewhere. They also seem to come with abrasive personalities. In fact, look at the most underperforming clubs in the top division: Chelsea, Newcastle, Man Utd. All teams who have gone out and spent an absolute ton bringing in the best-in-the-business commercial-type to their club. Funnily enough, the most overperforming team in the top division, Villa, allowed their manager to appoint a bloke that he worked with at Sevilla. That Monchi bloke was also an ex Sevilla player and appointed to that role years prior to Emery’s arrival. “In 2000, after Sevilla were relegated from the top division, Monchi was appointed their director of football.[5] He was given two objectives by the board: develop the club's youth system and implement a vast scouting policy inside and outside Spain”. He also signed Nzonzi for Sevilla and Roma (he bought out his contract at Sevilla to go to Rome - only to go back to Sevilla a couple of years after). en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monchi |
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Post by sportsman on Mar 29, 2024 13:32:34 GMT
What if Jon Walters IS only interim,would Ferdinand still be your suggested choice? Just curious I'd rather have Franz Ferdinand. Listening to him on his 8 years there and buying players worth 33m and selling players totalling 55m and how he came across and his stories I thought he was alright and well worth at least an interview if he’d be interested |
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Post by davethebass on Mar 29, 2024 13:33:44 GMT
On the athletic thread after watching that vid I suggested Les Ferdinand as possible technical director. Reading some comments here and having just watched the Jon Walters video, I reckon I'd rather we kept Jon Walters. What if Jon Walters IS only interim,would Ferdinand still be your suggested choice? Just curious I guess I was asking fellow posters whether they thought he'd be worth considering, rather than making a definitive recommendation, I know so little about the subject, but yes I'd definitely say he's someone worth considering, based on what I heard in that video. I liked his attitude and how he perceives the role, plus he's highly regarded and probably has a good contact network, and his experience at QPR at a club in a similar situation would put him in good stead too. |
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Post by Olgrligm on Mar 29, 2024 13:43:10 GMT
<Looks back at the Athletic thread> Oh yeah, that bit where the ex employee says Coates falls in love with people, allows them to run things completely before he wakes up and sacks them... Funny, I thought of Walters when I read this quote: “They’ve never got the culture right,” says one former employee. “It’s a very cold culture. It’s the one club I’ve been at where there’s no collective will to want to win. I’ve been at other clubs where players know what the badge means and who they’re playing for. It’s about livelihoods and jobs.
“At Stoke, it’s nothing like that. It’s soulless. There’s no oomph about it. There’s never any suggestion of getting people together, ‘Let’s win the title; one club, one team’. None of that.”It's a good appointment, I think. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 29, 2024 13:59:09 GMT
Someone who knows the club, knows the fans. For me it’s a no brainer to give him the job rather than someone who has no previous connection to the ethos of Stoke City. Knows the club... I swear only Stoke fans get a hard on for this stuff. There is probably only a handful of people still at the club from his time here. I dunno maybe I'm a weird but I much prefer bring in someone with a proven record and experience. |
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Post by Vadiation_Ribe on Mar 29, 2024 13:59:47 GMT
What if Jon Walters IS only interim,would Ferdinand still be your suggested choice? Just curious I'd rather have Franz Ferdinand. They would sort the PA system out to be fair. |
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Post by march4 on Mar 29, 2024 14:54:55 GMT
I'd rather have Franz Ferdinand. They would sort the PA system out to be fair. Is he a sound engineer? |
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Post by Clayton Wood on Mar 29, 2024 19:43:49 GMT
Is his 'cheerleader in chief' remit having an effect so far?
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Post by Olgrligm on Mar 29, 2024 20:06:20 GMT
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Post by Chewbacca the Wookie on Mar 29, 2024 20:16:43 GMT
I really hope we keep JW. Talks really well, seems well liked and loves the club.
In a role like this I’d rather have someone like him than a “big name” who’s coming for the money and doesn’t have the club in his heart.
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Post by stokesupporter on Mar 29, 2024 21:13:10 GMT
I really hope we keep JW. Talks really well, seems well liked and loves the club. In a role like this I’d rather have someone like him than a “big name” who’s coming for the money and doesn’t have the club in his heart. I agree. He's excatly the right person to put this club and it's staff and players back on to the right track. With this combo we have now at the helm we already seem to have much healthier culture on and off the pitch. |
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Post by smallthorner on Mar 29, 2024 21:13:23 GMT
I really hope we keep JW. Talks really well, seems well liked and loves the club. In a role like this I’d rather have someone like him than a “big name” who’s coming for the money and doesn’t have the club in his heart. If he gets on with SS and and can work together on recruitment then what's not to like. Keep it as simple as possible. Need to get back to basics. Get the spine right. |
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Post by lordb on Mar 29, 2024 21:30:33 GMT
Goes to show what a bit of cheer leading can do |
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Post by FullerMagic on Apr 3, 2024 16:38:50 GMT
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Post by Middle White Stripe on Apr 3, 2024 17:10:25 GMT
He has to be given the job permanently. |
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Post by jokker on Apr 3, 2024 17:18:13 GMT
I like how SJW doesn't actually push ahead of himself and demands that he be given the job permanently.
Unlike some other people employed by the club in recent years.
That notwithstanding he should be given the job foreva.
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Post by bagnallboothen on Apr 3, 2024 17:24:25 GMT
He has to be given the job permanently. Why? |
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Post by smallthorner on Apr 3, 2024 17:39:15 GMT
He has to be given the job permanently. Why? Knows the Club. |
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Post by Gary Hackett on Apr 3, 2024 18:09:28 GMT
So he's the interim but is making key decisions that affect the long term, how does that work ? More mixed up thinking from the owners. |
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Post by FullerMagic on Apr 3, 2024 18:20:25 GMT
www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2024/04/03/transfer-notebook-ola-aina-jonathan-walters-stoke-leeds/Walters eyed for Stoke technical directorFormer Republic of Ireland international Jon Walters is in pole position to land the job as technical director at Stoke. Walters was appointed as an interim after the dismissal of Ricky Martin in February and is the favourite to be installed on a permanent basis. The former Stoke forward has impressed since his return to the bet365 Stadium and has support from the club’s joint-owner John Coates. Contrary to reports, former Norwich sporting director Stuart Webber has not held talks with Stoke over the role.
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Post by Gary Hackett on Apr 3, 2024 18:22:34 GMT
www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2024/04/03/transfer-notebook-ola-aina-jonathan-walters-stoke-leeds/Walters eyed for Stoke technical directorFormer Republic of Ireland international Jon Walters is in pole position to land the job as technical director at Stoke. Walters was appointed as an interim after the dismissal of Ricky Martin in February and is the favourite to be installed on a permanent basis. The former Stoke forward has impressed since his return to the bet365 Stadium and has support from the club’s joint-owner John Coates. Contrary to reports, former Norwich sporting director Stuart Webber has not held talks with Stoke over the role. May aa well just make it permanent now then if thats the plan and stop all the confusion. |
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