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Post by bayernoatcake on Mar 25, 2024 17:09:59 GMT
I’m not even sure why we have Walters. If we could get someone in charge by mid May and then assess from there. Their first decision being Schumacher. Sack him if we stay up, keep him if we go down. Unless we have an absolutely shocking run of results to end the season, a la Neil last year, I think Id keep him either way I’ve seen enough at this level to see what sort of a manager he is. And he failed the one test I set him for me. Ie stick to your principles. He shat his pants and I can’t be doing with it. There was no need and it didn’t work. He’s proven at the level below so that’s my logic there. |
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Post by silsdenstokie on Mar 25, 2024 17:16:13 GMT
Unless we have an absolutely shocking run of results to end the season, a la Neil last year, I think Id keep him either way I’ve seen enough at this level to see what sort of a manager he is. And he failed the one test I set him for me. Ie stick to your principles. He shat his pants and I can’t be doing with it. There was no need and it didn’t work. He’s proven at the level below so that’s my logic there. To be fair he wasnt doing to badly with Plymouth at this level prior to us taking him. Like to think if he can keep us up it would be the making of him. I wonder if its a case of right manager at the wrong time for us. Hope not |
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Post by Marc01 on Mar 25, 2024 19:31:55 GMT
Liverpool have a new Sporting Director poached from Bournemouth for next season. There’s reference in this article to Villa’s equivalent being “Monchi”. I think he was the bloke who pinched Nzonzi off Stoke for Sevilla… www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/68654523 |
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Post by FullerMagic on Mar 25, 2024 20:47:28 GMT
Seems to be quite a bit of noise connecting MON with the Aberdeen job, or at least being well in the running. And he's not exactly talking the prospect of leaving NI again down
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Post by silsdenstokie on Mar 25, 2024 21:48:12 GMT
Seems to be quite a bit of noise connecting MON with the Aberdeen job, or at least being well in the running. And he's not exactly talking the prospect of leaving NI again down Lives in Scotland. Outside the old firm probably as good a gig as any up there |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 25, 2024 23:23:42 GMT
I'm not sure, I think we'll wait for the summer recess won't we? We have SJW until the end of this term and we can't yet say if we are hiring someone for the Championship or League 1. I’m not even sure why we have Walters. If we could get someone in charge by mid May and then assess from there. Their first decision being Schumacher. Sack him if we stay up, keep him if we go down. There's nothing to be 'not sure' about, is there? We've sacked our qualifications-off-the-internet DoF, and replaced him with an interim. One who cares for the club, is qualified, and available. It's not a big deal. The assumption of some on here is that Walters will be de-facto, wank/out of his depth. I don't get the issue. I'd rather give it to Walters than Webber, who seems an absolute bellend. If we employ him, it'll just prove we've learned nothing, and due diligence is just something only Denise can be arsed with. |
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Post by CBUFAWKIPWH on Mar 26, 2024 7:18:06 GMT
Unless we have an absolutely shocking run of results to end the season, a la Neil last year, I think Id keep him either way I’ve seen enough at this level to see what sort of a manager he is. And he failed the one test I set him for me. Ie stick to your principles. He shat his pants and I can’t be doing with it. There was no need and it didn’t work. He’s proven at the level below so that’s my logic there. Any manager with an once of pride would walk if they were told we think you are good enough for League 1 but not the Championship. And why the hell would anyone flog their guts out to get a team promoted when they know they won't be trusted to do a job having achieved it? It doesn't make sense. The logical thing to do is to get the Technical Director appointment right and give them the decision on Schumacher's future. If you are going for that model that's how it should work. In terms of sticking to your principles I agree - once a manager stops doing that they are toast. However my concern with Schumacher isn't so much sticking to his principles as having a clear understanding of what his principles are. My big concern is he just keeps chopping and changing formations and line up for no good reason - team selection is all over the place. Apart for the Leicester game he has tried to play on the front foot and the football itself is ok but the lack of consistency in team selection has massively contributed to an awful run of results. To be honest I'm neutral on Schumacher. If the new Technical Director backs him that's fine but equally if they decide he isn't the right man for the job I'm not that bothered if he goes. What I do want from the club is complete backing of the manager regardless of where we are next season - half arsed backing isn't going to do anyone any favours. |
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Post by cheadlepotter on Mar 26, 2024 12:54:31 GMT
Some decent chat about the role here might be of interest to some. You can definitely see the comparisons between QPR and us upon relegation from the PL and the difficulties of running of the club after it.
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Post by Miles Offside on Mar 26, 2024 19:30:06 GMT
MON as our Technical Director?
If his track record with us as a manager is anything to go by - sacked for boring us to death with 5 at the back at home - we should stay well clear.
Jon Walters is the best of the potential candidates I've seen so far.
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Post by gingerninja on Mar 26, 2024 19:33:27 GMT
When you say best potential candidates out have seen, apart from Walters, who is interim and from a Daily Mail article, I am not aware of any others?. MON is I just think conjecture?.
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Post by a on Mar 27, 2024 11:55:44 GMT
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Post by jesusmcmuffin on Mar 27, 2024 12:00:55 GMT
MON as our Technical Director? If his track record with us as a manager is anything to go by - sacked for boring us to death with 5 at the back at home - we should stay well clear. Jon Walters is the best of the potential candidates I've seen so far. Getting us out of the relegation zone comfortably and since he left we've ended up back there Id happily be bored than be relegated |
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Post by sportsman on Mar 27, 2024 19:44:13 GMT
Just watched the overlap on YouTube. They had Les Ferdinand on this week. Very interesting listening to him and qpr. He’s looking for a job at the moment. Came across very well if you watch it
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Post by conzdad on Mar 27, 2024 20:23:23 GMT
Just watched the overlap on YouTube. They had Les Ferdinand on this week. Very interesting listening to him and qpr. He’s looking for a job at the moment. Came across very well if you watch it Was thinking that to myself last night when watching it myself. He has experience in the job. |
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Post by smallthorner on Mar 27, 2024 21:15:22 GMT
It's such a simple game though isn't it.
A la Clough, Waddington and Ferguson.
Manager chooses players.
Manager decides style of play.
Coach coaches.
Leader on the pitch to implement with the help of the conductor. (Smith/Hudson/Eastham)
(Burns/McGovern)
(Keane/Scholes)
DoF ?? ... what a fluckin joke.
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Post by Miles Offside on Mar 28, 2024 14:18:44 GMT
MON as our Technical Director? If his track record with us as a manager is anything to go by - sacked for boring us to death with 5 at the back at home - we should stay well clear. Jon Walters is the best of the potential candidates I've seen so far. Getting us out of the relegation zone comfortably and since he left we've ended up back there Id happily be bored than be relegated I doubt Jon Coates will be thinking that being bored or relegated are his only options when appointing a Technical Director. |
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Post by jesusmcmuffin on Mar 28, 2024 14:24:28 GMT
Getting us out of the relegation zone comfortably and since he left we've ended up back there Id happily be bored than be relegated I doubt Jon Coates will be thinking that being bored or relegated are his only options when appointing a Technical Director. Of course he won't Should have one thing in mind |
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Post by FullerMagic on Mar 28, 2024 20:08:10 GMT
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Post by theoptimist on Mar 28, 2024 20:25:35 GMT
Who on earth thought that background lift musak was a good idea? |
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Post by FullerMagic on Mar 28, 2024 20:27:12 GMT
He's definitely talking as if he knows the full-time job is his
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Post by bolders on Mar 28, 2024 20:31:54 GMT
He's definitely talking as if he knows the full-time job is his He’s talking a lot of sense, yeah I know it’s only talk, but we have lost what made us us. We’ve lost identity and have been taken for a ride by a lot of players. We need our identity back, our own culture and some players with a bloody back bone |
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Post by Biblical on Mar 28, 2024 20:37:54 GMT
He's definitely talking as if he knows the full-time job is his I’ve got no issues with him taking it full-time. He’s not a wide talking chancer like Ricky Martin, he’s someone who knows football at this level and also the level above inside out. He’s done the qualifications and is saying the right things. |
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Post by 36dd on Mar 28, 2024 20:45:30 GMT
He's definitely talking as if he knows the full-time job is his I’ve got no issues with him taking it full-time. He’s not a wide talking chancer like Ricky Martin, he’s someone who knows football at this level and also the level above inside out. He’s done the qualifications and is saying the right things. Someone who knows the club, knows the fans. For me it’s a no brainer to give him the job rather than someone who has no previous connection to the ethos of Stoke City. |
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Post by danceswithclams on Mar 28, 2024 21:09:10 GMT
I’ve got no issues with him taking it full-time. He’s not a wide talking chancer like Ricky Martin, he’s someone who knows football at this level and also the level above inside out. He’s done the qualifications and is saying the right things. Someone who knows the club, knows the fans. For me it’s a no brainer to give him the job rather than someone who has no previous connection to the ethos of Stoke City. Knows the club... |
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Post by gingerninja on Mar 28, 2024 21:13:38 GMT
My worry would be is that it sounds like a job for the boys. Just because you have a strong affiliation with the club, does not make you the best person for a particular role. He seems like the polar opposite to Martin and seems very grounded and level headed. He's obviously got the job, why not just announce him now and let him get on with it?.
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Post by lordb on Mar 28, 2024 21:15:21 GMT
Someone who knows the club, knows the fans. For me it’s a no brainer to give him the job rather than someone who has no previous connection to the ethos of Stoke City. Knows the club... ...woerks and has worked over and over again in football not going to bore you with examples |
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Post by stokieben28 on Mar 28, 2024 21:24:53 GMT
He's definitely talking as if he knows the full-time job is his Who would the fans want instead? Another Ricky Martin who knows nothing about the area, or maybe someone with more skills and experience? Not for me, 10000% behind Super Johny Walters! |
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Post by owdestokie2 on Mar 28, 2024 21:27:58 GMT
My worry would be is that it sounds like a job for the boys. Just because you have a strong affiliation with the club, does not make you the best person for a particular role. He seems like the polar opposite to Martin and seems very grounded and level headed. He's obviously got the job, why not just announce him now and let him get on with it?. I think……he is getting on with it |
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Post by Staffsoatcake on Mar 28, 2024 21:30:13 GMT
Should have asked him what are they doing in training that will help in not conceding & scoring more goals that will keep us up.
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Post by 36dd on Mar 28, 2024 21:32:39 GMT
He's definitely talking as if he knows the full-time job is his Who would the fans want instead? Another Ricky Martin who knows nothing about the area, or maybe someone with more skills and experience? Not for me, 10000% behind Super Johny Walters! Spot on ref the message I am highlighting, in his latest interview he is coming across as grounded and honest. I wouldn’t be gutted if SJW is given the role full time. |
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