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Post by RipRoaringPotter on Feb 29, 2024 10:32:46 GMT
Anyone else sick of this club being synonymous with players who aren’t very good but will work hard? I want good footballers that win matches, not fucking dogs chasing balloons. Are you talking about Jon Walters himself, or the patronising attitude of "Stoke fans just want players that work hard"? If it's the latter, then to be fair to SJW in the full interview he does explain it a bit better. To summarise, the minimum Stoke fans expect is you to work hard. If you can work hard and play brilliant football ("do 10 stepovers" in his words) then you'll be a God. I think that is fairly close to the truth. In general though I agree with you - there is an idea that all Stoke fans want 10 Dean Whiteheads and a goalkeeper to be starting every week. I'm sure some fans do want that, but many fans also want a couple of hard-workers surrounded by people that can play, create, tackle or keep the ball. |
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Post by FullerMagic on Mar 14, 2024 14:04:08 GMT
www.bbc.co.uk/sport/articles/cgr7z43r67yoStoke have held talks with former Norwich sporting director Stuart Webber as they look to replace Ricky Martin.Joint-Chairman John Coates has been speaking to a number of candidates, with Webber a contender to take the job at the bet365 Stadium.
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Post by FullerMagic on Mar 14, 2024 14:06:08 GMT
Not sure how I'd feel about Webber.
As successful as he was initially, he was absolutely reviled towards the end
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Post by dirtygary69 on Mar 14, 2024 14:16:00 GMT
Not sure how I'd feel about Webber. As successful as he was initially, he was absolutely reviled towards the end Wasn't Norwich's issue more that they stopped signing players and spending money? From memory, they've had plenty of left-field, foreign signings that appear to have been successful. I guess like every team there will be signings that don't work out, but I thought he'd done a good job overall - in fact, wasn't he lauded as the brains behind the operation when all was going well? Like any of these appointments, it all depends on how much control they want and how much you want to give them. |
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Post by clarkeda on Mar 14, 2024 14:19:57 GMT
Not sure how I'd feel about Webber. As successful as he was initially, he was absolutely reviled towards the end He was regarded as one of the best for a while, weren’t Liverpool after him at one point? I’ve listened to a podcast he did and he talks about building a culture etc. |
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Post by wagsastokie on Mar 14, 2024 14:29:49 GMT
Not sure how I'd feel about Webber. As successful as he was initially, he was absolutely reviled towards the end He was regarded as one of the best for a while, weren’t Liverpool after him at one point? I’ve listened to a podcast he did and he talks about building a culture etc. Most vale fans spend their time building a culture ( lack of soap ) that doesn’t mean they know piss all about football |
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Post by FullerMagic on Mar 14, 2024 14:30:00 GMT
Not sure how I'd feel about Webber. As successful as he was initially, he was absolutely reviled towards the end He was regarded as one of the best for a while, weren’t Liverpool after him at one point? I’ve listened to a podcast he did and he talks about building a culture etc. Yeah, he was a very visible success story for the role early on. Linked with top clubs. But it did turn sour - he was a hate figure over recent seasons. Seems a bit of an arrogant so and so too. theathletic.com/4607081/2023/06/14/stuart-webber-norwich-city-departure/Why has Webber been criticised by Norwich fans this season?Primarily, the criticism regarding events on the pitch has come down to two points. As stated, Norwich’s recent failures have been pinned on their recruitment decisions and Webber has been held responsible for that. Since Farke’s sacking, there has also been the perceived loss of identity — and with that, almost a loss of pride for some supporters in what they are trying to do. Increasingly, however, the heat has come onto Webber for an approach to public leadership that you either view as honest or antagonistic. Interviews included criticism of complaining supporters, such as talking about people carrying bedsheets with slogans or “divorcees” sat in a corner of Carrow Road. None of this was a new phenomenon. It was during Webber’s first full season he suggested those supporters complaining about Norwich’s style of play under Farke being boring should go support another team. It is easier to get away with such statements across the wider supporter base when there is general buy-in for the direction of travel and club leadership. As that diminishes, so the negative points are more greatly exposed. Webber’s most recent 12 months at Norwich have been bookended by misguided timing when talking about his desire to climb Mount Everest, comments that took place on the eve of Norwich’s Premier League relegation, and then his latest round of interviews in May. As has been his recent trend, they once again included a desire to mention race when talking about the abuse he has faced from supporters. He also offered his personal feelings on women’s football when some had hoped for encouragement without caveats for the future of Norwich’s recently integrated team. Such public opining has often filtered into a perception that Webber has overseen a period at Norwich during which critical voices have been moved on, with levels of internal scrutiny and accountability not being as high as they could be. On the flip side, many supporters will have viewed Webber as the key to Norwich bouncing back from a dismal two seasons. As a result, they may be more fearful for the club’s future without him. Didn't have many supporters towards the end as the replies to this suggest |
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Post by dirtygary69 on Mar 14, 2024 14:37:16 GMT
Yeah, I don't like him. Sounds like Martin on steroids, but I guess all these sorts are going to come with some sort of ego.
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Post by FullerMagic on Mar 14, 2024 14:38:01 GMT
Last thing we need is another David Brent figure   |
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Post by stokeuk474 on Mar 14, 2024 14:54:11 GMT
I'd steer clear of him. He sounds like a right pr*ck. To be honest, we should steer clear of anyone with links to Norwich based on recent events.
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Mar 14, 2024 14:58:19 GMT
www.bbc.co.uk/sport/articles/cgr7z43r67yoStoke have held talks with former Norwich sporting director Stuart Webber as they look to replace Ricky Martin.Joint-Chairman John Coates has been speaking to a number of candidates, with Webber a contender to take the job at the bet365 Stadium. Do we need one? |
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Post by LGH87 on Mar 14, 2024 15:16:56 GMT
Webber lucked out with Farke.
Another snake oil salesman.
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Post by FullerMagic on Mar 14, 2024 15:19:24 GMT
On his football record - very, very questionable.
On his apparent divisive, arrogant personality - no thanks!
Hopefully one of many rounds of preliminary discussions with several contenders.
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Post by jokker on Mar 14, 2024 15:20:02 GMT
If his ambition is to climb Mount Everest, then figuratively speaking Stoke would be just the right position for him.
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Post by pretzel on Mar 14, 2024 15:28:25 GMT
I'm sure we can rely on our club chairman to ensure 'all due diligence' is carried out before making an appointment.
oink oink, flap flap
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Post by Caerwrangonpotter on Mar 14, 2024 15:44:26 GMT
No doubt we wont learn.....so expect him to be shoe horned in with the Jon Coates blessing soon
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Post by cheadlepotter on Mar 14, 2024 15:51:36 GMT
A nice amount of red flags there. Welcome aboard, Stuart.
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Post by gingerninja on Mar 14, 2024 16:12:03 GMT
Is SJW involved in the process do we know, considering will he not be a candidate for the role himself??.
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Post by owdestokie2 on Mar 14, 2024 16:23:56 GMT
Have said in an earlier post SJW will not have done his own CV any harm whilst at the Club. He will currently be working on pre-season training, potential summer targets and of course out of contract/loan players returning to own clubs etc
Better the devil you know?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2024 17:24:29 GMT
www.bbc.co.uk/sport/articles/cgr7z43r67yoStoke have held talks with former Norwich sporting director Stuart Webber as they look to replace Ricky Martin.Joint-Chairman John Coates has been speaking to a number of candidates, with Webber a contender to take the job at the bet365 Stadium. Do we need one? My thoughts too. They all seem to be out of the same mould any way! |
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Post by HarryTheHat on Mar 14, 2024 17:28:36 GMT
He sounds a right dick! - keep well away from that
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Post by Gary Hackett on Mar 14, 2024 17:29:01 GMT
www.bbc.co.uk/sport/articles/cgr7z43r67yoStoke have held talks with former Norwich sporting director Stuart Webber as they look to replace Ricky Martin.Joint-Chairman John Coates has been speaking to a number of candidates, with Webber a contender to take the job at the bet365 Stadium. Do we need one? You'd rather keep SJW who has hardly any experience of the role? |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2024 17:36:54 GMT
No, we don't need another Alan partridge/David Brent/ Ricky Martin type
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Mar 14, 2024 17:37:05 GMT
You'd rather keep SJW who has hardly any experience of the role? What, than someone who is demonstrably a massive weapon? We've just got rid of one of them. So yes I think I would. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2024 17:37:35 GMT
You'd rather keep SJW who has hardly any experience of the role? Absolutely, he has some experience and in football, experience is massively overrated. |
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Post by AlliG on Mar 14, 2024 17:41:47 GMT
www.bbc.co.uk/sport/articles/cgr7z43r67yoStoke have held talks with former Norwich sporting director Stuart Webber as they look to replace Ricky Martin.Joint-Chairman John Coates has been speaking to a number of candidates, with Webber a contender to take the job at the bet365 Stadium. Does anyone else find it strange that it seems that before every recent game we have had a "story" involving someone from the club we are due to play. Anyone would think that someone is shit stirring.  |
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Post by datguy on Mar 14, 2024 17:48:48 GMT
I was surprised at how rich SJW's CV is since retiring.
He's a PR appointment in the sense that we had to replace an absolute shitehawk with someone the fans can immediately get behind. But the man himself has a CV that certainly puts him in contention for a similar role at a club not too far down the ladder from us.
So if it's another shitehawk in Webber or Walters. Then my vastly uninformed vote would be in Walters' favour.
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Post by Gary Hackett on Mar 14, 2024 17:51:15 GMT
You'd rather keep SJW who has hardly any experience of the role? What, than someone who is demonstrably a massive weapon? We've just got rid of one of them. So yes I think I would. It is possible to actually get in someone experienced and who isn't a total wanker you know. We need to get the right person and if it takes a while so be it. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2024 17:52:51 GMT
Webber didn't luck out with Farke, because he did all the good work with Wagner at Huddersfield previous to that. He has something about him for definite and as posted above, Norwich's problem was a lack of spending and selling their best players after their promotions.
Sadly he comes across as a bit of a prick and a snake oil salesman but I get the feeling that it comes with the territory with that kind of role, and if you are after one without any of those characteristics it will be a very, very small shortlist.
Look on the other side. He saw right through Neil and Martin at Norwich in double quick time and got rid of them pronto, so there is something between the ears there for sure.
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Post by generationex on Mar 14, 2024 17:57:02 GMT
Yeah Norwich are the business model we need to be building here.
And he seems a total twat.
If it’s serious then John wants his bumps examined. To be polite.
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