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Post by boskampsflaps on Feb 22, 2024 16:49:21 GMT
Do people actually think Martin has been picking the team? Nobody knows for sure but of all those rumours flying around that one was the most plausible. But we will never know if it was true or not. Clearly he wasn't liked by a lot of people though and his sacking was long overdue It's pretty obvious the rumours were bullshit, not a chance he's been having any say in the 11 being picked for matches. |
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Post by boskampsflaps on Feb 22, 2024 16:53:50 GMT
Can I ask, what makes you think that? Going off purely his football management side he'd be awful, he had a set way of playing and didn't sign the right type of players for it (putting aside their ability), that doesn't scream out that he'd be capable of coming up with a long term strategy and implementing it properly. That statement alone should damn the rest of your comment. Personally,I think he would be a very good appointment, if we could get him. Working in very difficult circumstances he got 60 and 62 pts in his 2 seasons. Brought on young players like Souttar and Collins and brought in players like Philogene, Harwood Bellis and Doughty among others. He was an intelligent man which might prevent him from coming back. We need someone like him who knows about football not some spoofer. Hodgson would be great if we could get him. Some people on here think it is very easy to get a good DOF. Look at the way Brighton's staff are being targeted by the big clubs who aren't happy with the people they already have. One must assume that they made the wrong appointment, the last time they signed one. We now have Superstar Players and Managers, but how many DOF could you name? No it shouldn't, he wanted to play with wingbacks and one up front and didn't sign the type of players that could play it. Edu seems to be doing a good job at Arsenal tbf but tbh im not the biggest fan of the set up, it leaves it ambiguous as to where the blame lies, or at least it seems to in our version. |
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Post by boskampsflaps on Feb 22, 2024 16:55:33 GMT
You're telling me you think that any other ex-pro, people would be looking at someone who did 6 months at Fleetwood Town and going "Yeah, that's the kind of experience we're after. Let's have some of that" Genuinely? If that ex-pro had spent half of his career in the Premier League and had more than 50 caps for his country, yes I think people would generally be willing to give them a chance for an interim appointment like this. I'd rather someone with solid experience not someone picked because he used to play for the club, but as it's interim so it hopefully won't really matter. |
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Post by march4 on Feb 22, 2024 16:56:00 GMT
About time. The more control we can give Schuey, the better. Stoke need to learn snake oil salesmen are toxic. From Moxey to Martin - we need to learn. Only SS can be leader. So long as SJW is acting as a consultant/supporter of SS then this should work fine. The next essential move is to rename SS’s job as manager. |
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Post by J-Roar on Feb 22, 2024 16:56:33 GMT
It’s obviously a diversity hire On the one hand you could say that. |
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Post by frasier37 on Feb 22, 2024 16:57:25 GMT
What's Ryan Shawcross up to these days. Surely he could do a job at Stoke. Learning his trade.....nowhere near ready yet from what little bits I've seen |
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Post by J-Roar on Feb 22, 2024 16:58:38 GMT
What's Ryan Shawcross up to these days. Surely he could do a job at Stoke. Knows the club. |
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Post by Caerwrangonpotter on Feb 22, 2024 17:04:37 GMT
Well if we need someone to sort the "Bomb Squad" out, someone to install a bit of steel & purpose.....only one man to install that fear!  |
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Post by hoppo96 on Feb 22, 2024 17:04:52 GMT
yup. Was just gonna edit my post. Fuck the youth squad ( not literally) get him coaching the 1st team... don't think he's ahem quite up to that standard (yet) |
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Post by mickeythemaestro on Feb 22, 2024 17:07:19 GMT
Well if we need someone to sort the "Bomb Squad" out, someone to install a bit of steel & purpose.....only one man to install that fear! Could do with a 28 year old him in our team now. Absolute class on his day he really was. |
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Post by bertiestan on Feb 22, 2024 17:08:46 GMT
Well if we need someone to sort the "Bomb Squad" out, someone to install a bit of steel & purpose.....only one man to install that fear! I loved Abdoulaye but he’d have them rocking up on the pitch in their sliders n maybe Haks in his wellies🤦🏼♂️ I seem to Remember Whelan putting him in his place🔴⚪️ |
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Post by Caddick988 on Feb 22, 2024 17:09:26 GMT
Does anyone have any ideas on who we could likely bring in during the summer to be our sporting/technical director? I had a quick google and saw there was a guy called Paul Mitchell who was in place at Spurs when Poch was there and has recently left Monaco. Couple of other interesting names were Michael Edwards who's recently been at Liverpool but left over a year ago (doubt he'd have any interest) or maybe someone like Ralf Rangnick!
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Post by FullerMagic on Feb 22, 2024 17:10:20 GMT
www.stokesentinel.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/stoke-city-jon-walters-director-7004993 "I have achieved my UEFA B and UEFA A licence,. I have worked in a Premier League Category One academy as a part-time and full-time coach., I have spent time working for major media broadcasters. "I applied for the PFA chief executive and came extremely close whilst learning a lot going through that process. I have spent a year working with Republic of Ireland under-19s, scouting, coaching, analysing, mentoring and taking a squad to the Elite European Qualifiers. "Every experience I've had has been different and I've worked with some fantastic people over that period of time, always educating myself along the way and following a path to where I ultimately see myself. I see this course as a formal education and a natural progression to equip me with the tools to move into this area of football." www.linkedin.com/posts/jonathan-walters-04b7b5172_football-team-work-activity-7056034785604820992-fOHvJust reading his linkedin, he looks really busy. Got all his badges, Masters in sports directorship, studying for his pro licence, coaching the Irish youth teams, TV pundit on Irish TV. It's pretty impressive.
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Post by DC1863 on Feb 22, 2024 17:11:17 GMT
Does anyone have any ideas on who we could likely bring in during the summer to be our sporting/technical director? I had a quick google and saw there was a guy called Paul Mitchell who was in place at Spurs when Poch was there and has recently left Monaco. Couple of other interesting names were Michael Edwards who's recently been at Liverpool but left over a year ago (doubt he'd have any interest) or maybe someone like Ralf Rangnick! The first two have been on the radar of top clubs, Mitchell is rumoured to be on Man Utd's wishlist. Imagine we will be fishing in smaller ponds unfortunately. |
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Post by bertiestan on Feb 22, 2024 17:12:13 GMT
www.stokesentinel.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/stoke-city-jon-walters-director-7004993 "I have achieved my UEFA B and UEFA A licence,. I have worked in a Premier League Category One academy as a part-time and full-time coach., I have spent time working for major media broadcasters. "I applied for the PFA chief executive and came extremely close whilst learning a lot going through that process. I have spent a year working with Republic of Ireland under-19s, scouting, coaching, analysing, mentoring and taking a squad to the Elite European Qualifiers. "Every experience I've had has been different and I've worked with some fantastic people over that period of time, always educating myself along the way and following a path to where I ultimately see myself. I see this course as a formal education and a natural progression to equip me with the tools to move into this area of football." www.linkedin.com/posts/jonathan-walters-04b7b5172_football-team-work-activity-7056034785604820992-fOHvJust reading his linkedin, he looks really busy. Got all his badges, Masters in sports directorship, studying for his pro licence, coaching the Irish youth teams, TV pundit on Irish TV. It's pretty impressive. He’s no dummy is super Jon |
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Post by satoshi on Feb 22, 2024 17:14:53 GMT
It’s obviously a diversity hire On the one hand you could say that. Chamone |
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Post by lordb on Feb 22, 2024 17:17:25 GMT
yup. Was just gonna edit my post. Fuck the youth squad ( not literally) get him coaching the 1st team... He's much better suited with the kids |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 22, 2024 17:18:50 GMT
Well if we need someone to sort the "Bomb Squad" out, someone to install a bit of steel & purpose.....only one man to install that fear! I don’t think we’ve had a better defender in the Prem than Abdoulaye in that first season. He was amazing. Great on the ball and just dominant. It looked like he came here with a point to prove and he most definitely succeeded in proving it. |
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Post by baconburger on Feb 22, 2024 17:19:35 GMT
If that ex-pro had spent half of his career in the Premier League and had more than 50 caps for his country, yes I think people would generally be willing to give them a chance for an interim appointment like this. I'd rather someone with solid experience not someone picked because he used to play for the club, but as it's interim so it hopefully won't really matter. If our crazy fans think it's a good idea it tells you all you need to know . Fast forward back to the past. |
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Post by thornestein on Feb 22, 2024 17:20:16 GMT
Simon King has transformed our off-the-field antics from a commercial perspective and engagement with the fanbase. I'm not sure I'd be looking to get rid of him. Another shyster from the five pillars of bullshit and part of the toxic culture at the club that is clearly spilling on to the pitch. Just like Martin and Dublin. We are one of the richest clubs in the world so should be able to attract the best people into the best positions. Walters is ok in the interim but we can’t be blinded by his former links to the job. We need to go out and get the absolute best that’s willing to come. If that’s him then fine but does he have the relevant skills and knowledge for such an important post? are you nuts , Simon King as done a fantastic job so far , go on do tell what’s he supposed to have done wrong |
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Post by bertiestan on Feb 22, 2024 17:20:54 GMT
Well if we need someone to sort the "Bomb Squad" out, someone to install a bit of steel & purpose.....only one man to install that fear! I don’t think we’ve had a better defender in the Prem than Abdoulaye in that first season. He was amazing. Great on the ball and just dominant. It looked like he came here with a point to prove and he most definitely succeeded in proving it. He was unbelievable…Abdoulaye ma lord |
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Post by lordb on Feb 22, 2024 17:21:54 GMT
Another shyster from the five pillars of bullshit and part of the toxic culture at the club that is clearly spilling on to the pitch. Just like Martin and Dublin. We are one of the richest clubs in the world so should be able to attract the best people into the best positions. Walters is ok in the interim but we can’t be blinded by his former links to the job. We need to go out and get the absolute best that’s willing to come. If that’s him then fine but does he have the relevant skills and knowledge for such an important post? are you nuts , Simon King as done a fantastic job so far , go on do tell what’s he supposed to have done wrong He's improved loads of stuff as far as I can see shouldn't be anywhere near the football side of things, and isn't |
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Post by independent on Feb 22, 2024 17:28:00 GMT
That statement alone should damn the rest of your comment. Personally,I think he would be a very good appointment, if we could get him. Working in very difficult circumstances he got 60 and 62 pts in his 2 seasons. Brought on young players like Souttar and Collins and brought in players like Philogene, Harwood Bellis and Doughty among others. He was an intelligent man which might prevent him from coming back. We need someone like him who knows about football not some spoofer. Hodgson would be great if we could get him. Some people on here think it is very easy to get a good DOF. Look at the way Brighton's staff are being targeted by the big clubs who aren't happy with the people they already have. One must assume that they made the wrong appointment, the last time they signed one. We now have Superstar Players and Managers, but how many DOF could you name? No it shouldn't, he wanted to play with wingbacks and one up front and didn't sign the type of players that could play it. Edu seems to be doing a good job at Arsenal tbf but tbh im not the biggest fan of the set up, it leaves it ambiguous as to where the blame lies, or at least it seems to in our version. This is a myth that first appeared, as a JOKE, in the "BEANO" and was taken up by bayernoatcake and the toxic avenger, despite all the evidence to the contrary. MON made the best use of the players available to him and made some average players look better than they were. Hence we were able to get actual fees for players, something almost unknown in this club. What about Martin O Neill for DOF. |
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Post by wonderwall on Feb 22, 2024 17:30:16 GMT
www.stokesentinel.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/stoke-city-jon-walters-director-7004993 "I have achieved my UEFA B and UEFA A licence,. I have worked in a Premier League Category One academy as a part-time and full-time coach., I have spent time working for major media broadcasters. "I applied for the PFA chief executive and came extremely close whilst learning a lot going through that process. I have spent a year working with Republic of Ireland under-19s, scouting, coaching, analysing, mentoring and taking a squad to the Elite European Qualifiers. "Every experience I've had has been different and I've worked with some fantastic people over that period of time, always educating myself along the way and following a path to where I ultimately see myself. I see this course as a formal education and a natural progression to equip me with the tools to move into this area of football." www.linkedin.com/posts/jonathan-walters-04b7b5172_football-team-work-activity-7056034785604820992-fOHvJust reading his linkedin, he looks really busy. Got all his badges, Masters in sports directorship, studying for his pro licence, coaching the Irish youth teams, TV pundit on Irish TV. It's pretty impressive. Loads of ex-pros have all kinds of badges. His CV isn’t unique. |
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Post by wonderwall on Feb 22, 2024 17:31:28 GMT
Well if we need someone to sort the "Bomb Squad" out, someone to install a bit of steel & purpose.....only one man to install that fear! I don’t think we’ve had a better defender in the Prem than Abdoulaye in that first season. He was amazing. Great on the ball and just dominant. It looked like he came here with a point to prove and he most definitely succeeded in proving it. £40mil in today market at 26 years old. Top player, boss. |
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Post by danceswithclams on Feb 22, 2024 17:32:31 GMT
I don't think you understand what Simon King's role entails. Yes I totally understand his role, and from what someone who used to work at the Club told me, he is cut from the same cloth as Martin. From the moment those two walked into the Club, they have overseen a toxic culture where anyone who isn’t a yes person is fecked off pretty sharpish. They both peddle the five pillars of bullshit which seduced the board into appointing them without the proper skills required. The only difference is one has been found out sooner as it’s more obvious. Absolute bollocks 😅 |
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Post by Glory Hunter on Feb 22, 2024 17:33:33 GMT
No it shouldn't, he wanted to play with wingbacks and one up front and didn't sign the type of players that could play it. Edu seems to be doing a good job at Arsenal tbf but tbh im not the biggest fan of the set up, it leaves it ambiguous as to where the blame lies, or at least it seems to in our version. This is a myth that first appeared, as a JOKE, in the "BEANO" and was taken up by bayernoatcake and the toxic avenger, despite all the evidence to the contrary. MON made the best use of the players available to him and made some average players look better than they were. Hence we were able to get actual fees for players, something almost unknown in this club. What about Martin O Neill for DOF. I think you could do a lot worse. If he was still in charge here it may be boring, but we would already be safe. He could add a great deal of nouse while a younger manager introduces new themes to the play. |
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Post by wonderwall on Feb 22, 2024 17:34:55 GMT
I don't think you understand what Simon King's role entails. Yes I totally understand his role, and from what someone who used to work at the Club told me, he is cut from the same cloth as Martin. From the moment those two walked into the Club, they have overseen a toxic culture where anyone who isn’t a yes person is fecked off pretty sharpish. They both peddle the five pillars of bullshit which seduced the board into appointing them without the proper skills required. The only difference is one has been found out sooner as it’s more obvious. Nonsense, you’re trying to dig yourself out of a hole. You know nothing |
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Post by spoton on Feb 22, 2024 17:35:34 GMT
Probably someone on here have said already but is Walters red or blue,I suppose they can't use the excuse that they unable to communicate to each other (they talk the same) 😭, but if they support different parts of Merseyside then anything could happen 😂😂
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Post by FullerMagic on Feb 22, 2024 17:35:55 GMT
www.stokesentinel.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/stoke-city-jon-walters-director-7004993 "I have achieved my UEFA B and UEFA A licence,. I have worked in a Premier League Category One academy as a part-time and full-time coach., I have spent time working for major media broadcasters. "I applied for the PFA chief executive and came extremely close whilst learning a lot going through that process. I have spent a year working with Republic of Ireland under-19s, scouting, coaching, analysing, mentoring and taking a squad to the Elite European Qualifiers. "Every experience I've had has been different and I've worked with some fantastic people over that period of time, always educating myself along the way and following a path to where I ultimately see myself. I see this course as a formal education and a natural progression to equip me with the tools to move into this area of football." www.linkedin.com/posts/jonathan-walters-04b7b5172_football-team-work-activity-7056034785604820992-fOHvJust reading his linkedin, he looks really busy. Got all his badges, Masters in sports directorship, studying for his pro licence, coaching the Irish youth teams, TV pundit on Irish TV. It's pretty impressive. Loads of ex-pros have all kinds of badges. His CV isn’t unique. Surely more than fits the bill for a short-term, crowd-pleasing interim role while we take stock though. Don't think we'd have been snowed under with applicants to hold the fort until the summer |
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