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Post by wearepremierleague on Sept 12, 2023 16:37:10 GMT
I’m quickly losing faith in Southgate with his nonsense comments like the ones re Foden. Ignoring the fact that it completely contradicts the rest of his team selection, Foden played centrally for Man City two matches ago, and was Man of the match.
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Post by LphPotter on Sept 12, 2023 17:05:29 GMT
I’m quickly losing faith in Southgate with his nonsense comments like the ones re Foden. Ignoring the fact that it completely contradicts the rest of his team selection, Foden played centrally for Man City two matches ago, and was Man of the match. Used to like him but his contradictions are just getting ridiculous now, every time he has a press conference or an interview he contradicts himself every 3/4 sentences. |
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Post by delilahwhy on Sept 12, 2023 17:18:40 GMT
Southgate is the best England Manager we've had for decades.
Perhaps only 2nd to Ramsey in the all time list.
Give your heads a wobble.
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Post by onepara on Sept 12, 2023 17:18:49 GMT
This is a game for 100%'ers, so I'd play Henderson in midfield. He gets stuck in & scraps. Foden is too lightweight. Maybe bring him on later, if needs be.
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Post by maine on Sept 12, 2023 17:26:38 GMT
'Delilah why' said
'Southgate is the best England Manager we've had for decades.
Perhaps only 2nd to Ramsey in the all time list.'
I'm close to agreeing with this.
I think Sven Goran was better, and the caretaker Joe Mercer might have been if given a proper chance
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Post by leicspotter on Sept 12, 2023 17:30:31 GMT
Southgate does have a pretty good record but can also be frustrating and, maybe, a bit blinkered and cautious. I was at the Euro final and felt that we would have won if he had been a bit more ambitious in extra time...we were never going to win on penalties
That said, I wouldn't be looking at anyone else for the job just yet
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Post by FullerMagic on Sept 12, 2023 17:36:32 GMT
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Post by pavel on Sept 12, 2023 17:39:42 GMT
Southgate is the best England Manager we've had for decades. Perhaps only 2nd to Ramsey in the all time list. Give your heads a wobble. I think that speaks more of the dearth of decent managers we have employed since Ramsey. Southgate is a decent manager and has been successful in bringing stability to the set up and seems a likeable chap but he's had and has some fantastic players at his disposal. He has his faults, some about loyalty, favouritism (as most managers have), he's too cautious at times and tactically, allied with this caution and his in game management, means we have failed on the big occasions (Italy for instance) where a more progressive and less cautious manager may have won the big prize. I think that this tournament may be one too much for him, which is a shame as he could have gone out on a high. Yes he's a decent manager but not let's gloss over his faults. |
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Post by shrewspotter on Sept 12, 2023 17:45:53 GMT
I just think Southgate is too cautious, Euro final prime example with his 5 at the back
Kalvin Phillips in for tonight, not playing for Man City. Southgate says you can only expect to playing your a regular for your team
Fact is he has favorites, Phillips, Tripper, Henderson and Maguire, none are bad players but it's frustrating when you have players bang in form like Maddison on the bench and when he dies play being played in a position unfamiliar to him
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Post by thevoid on Sept 12, 2023 17:47:23 GMT
'Delilah why' said 'Southgate is the best England Manager we've had for decades. Perhaps only 2nd to Ramsey in the all time list.' I'm close to agreeing with this. I think Sven Goran was better, and the caretaker Joe Mercer might have been if given a proper chance Not Venables? |
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Post by FullerMagic on Sept 12, 2023 17:50:23 GMT
The lack of emerging competition for Kalvin Phillips is a concern if he isn't going to go for Maddison or Foden centrally.
Eze seems too attacking for him centrally too.
If Phillips spends a season on the fringes, is he still going to be a real contender?
Henderson or Conor Gallagher seem to be the only other ones in the mix - and aren't really a thrilling prospect.
Maybe he'd go for a fit Mason Mount if he gets some form back?
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Post by scfcwebby on Sept 12, 2023 17:56:45 GMT
BBC have Phillips LB and Trippier CM ,🤔
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Post by shrewspotter on Sept 12, 2023 17:57:00 GMT
The lack of emerging competition for Kalvin Phillips is a concern if he isn't going to go for Maddison or Foden centrally. Eze seems too attacking for him centrally too. If Phillips spends a season on the fringes, is he still going to be a real contender? Henderson or Conor Gallagher seems to be the only other ones in the mix - and aren't really a thrilling prospect. Maybe he'd go for a fit Mason Mount if he gets some form back? We only need 1 defensive midfielder, that should be Rice with Bellingham plus one from grealish, Foden or Maddison. Then you can use Foden or Grealish on the left of attack or in a 4-1-3-2 formation Mount in my opinion was never that great, even in euro 2020 when people were getting guey over him |
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Post by spitthedog on Sept 12, 2023 18:01:48 GMT
Southgate is the best England Manager we've had for decades. Perhaps only 2nd to Ramsey in the all time list. Give your heads a wobble. Could you imagine the length of the threads lambasting Ramsay if the Oatcake had been around in the 1970s? Especially the failure to qualify for the 1974 World Cup with such an abundance of fantastic young English talent available. Charlie George, Alan Hudson, Peter Osgood, Peter Shilton, Martin Peters, Tony Currie, Colin Bell, Trevor Brooking, Alan Ball, Kevin Keegan, Stan Bowles all at their peak so many World class players, yet Ramsay failed to get us to the World Cup. Very poor effort. |
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Post by shrewspotter on Sept 12, 2023 18:03:30 GMT
Southgate is the best England Manager we've had for decades. Perhaps only 2nd to Ramsey in the all time list. Give your heads a wobble. in terms of achievements then yes, but I think you need to look at what's at your disposal Bobby Robson let's face it went into Wc1990 with a pretty wank squad, Gazza wasnt a regular, nor Platt yet got to the semis where we were the best team with players playing out of their skin like Pearce, Parker and Beardsley For that reason it goes Ramsey, Robson then Venables for me |
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Post by bigvern on Sept 12, 2023 18:04:40 GMT
2 legends of Scottish football doing the punditry tonight. We have Jill Scott and Joe Cole
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Post by Paul Spencer on Sept 12, 2023 18:04:52 GMT
Foden played in the centre against Newcastle this season and tore them a new arsehole. The lad is a once in a generation talent and this clown can't accommodate him into his starting eleven. It's genuinely laughable.
Indeed Southgate has made himself look a bit of a berk with those comments and he clearly hasn't watched Foden play for his club this season.
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Post by spitthedog on Sept 12, 2023 18:05:52 GMT
2 legends of Scottish football doing the punditry tonight. We have Jill Scott and Joe Cole How the hell does Joe Cole get these gigs? |
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Post by Paul Spencer on Sept 12, 2023 18:07:45 GMT
BBC have Phillips LB and Trippier CM ,🤔
Yes most of the line-up's I've seen are suggesting that.
Not a doubt in my mind that it's wrong and they'll be starting the other way round.
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Post by Paul Spencer on Sept 12, 2023 18:08:16 GMT
2 legends of Scottish football doing the punditry tonight. We have Jill Scott and Joe Cole How the hell does Joe Cole get these gigs?
He really is awful.
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Post by werrington on Sept 12, 2023 18:08:19 GMT
Souness is a right cock
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Post by bigvern on Sept 12, 2023 18:08:28 GMT
2 legends of Scottish football doing the punditry tonight. We have Jill Scott and Joe Cole How the hell does Joe Cole get these gigs? Hard to explain. I could listen to McCoist and Souness all night. Not sure about our two. |
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Sept 12, 2023 18:09:59 GMT
2 legends of Scottish football doing the punditry tonight. We have Jill Scott and Joe Cole How the hell does Joe Cole get these gigs? Him and Jill Scott🙄Why?just why? |
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Post by lordb on Sept 12, 2023 18:11:52 GMT
BBC have Phillips LB and Trippier CM ,🤔 Yes most of the line-up's I've seen are suggesting that. Not a doubt in my mind that it's wrong and they'll be starting the other way round.
Unless it's some bizarre experiment by Southgate it's piss poor from the media Given how much money is involved in football reporting and broadcasting the standards are really low |
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Post by sportsman on Sept 12, 2023 18:13:48 GMT
The good thing is Southgate is playing dunk and guehi at centre back. Ever since the Ukraine match I've heard nothing but criticism of Maguire for no reason. Now the public have got what they want, let's see the difference
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Post by andystokey on Sept 12, 2023 18:15:46 GMT
Two newbies at centre half and not your first choice goalkeeper. McTominey and McGinn might have some joy there.
With the home Internationals this used to be the biggest game of the year, now I have to listen to these plokers. What a come down.
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Post by sportsman on Sept 12, 2023 18:19:06 GMT
Two newbies at centre half and not your first choice goalkeeper. McTominey and McGinn might have some joy there. With the home Internationals this used to be the biggest game of the year, now I have to listen to these plokers. What a come down. I don't want any excuses from fans tonight. This is the centre back pairing fans and pundits have been asking for. Time to step up. |
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Post by Davef on Sept 12, 2023 18:23:41 GMT
Scotland going for consecutive wins over England for the first time since 1977 following their 0-0 victory at Wembley in Euro 2020.
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Sept 12, 2023 18:23:58 GMT
Has Souness been on the pop this afternoon when he’s on about Gilmour and McTominay😳🤣
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Post by GrahamHyde on Sept 12, 2023 18:25:35 GMT
Glad he's dropped Chilwell and Maddison.
Both out of their depth last game. Kane was basically doing Maddison's job for him.
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