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Post by thehartshillbadger on Sept 12, 2023 21:38:33 GMT
Where the fuck is Stones anyway? Is he injured? Sorry I dont follow the premier league that closely these days
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Post by theporcelainpele on Sept 12, 2023 21:38:54 GMT
He can qualify to play for England too. I think he’ll choose Ireland myself but then again, if you had the chance to play in this England setup. Who knows He’s committed to them. I was literally it was a shame he did that 🤣 Ahhh I didn’t know that, thought we still had a chance. That shows some loyalty to the flag tbf as this current Ireland squad are absolutely woeful. |
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Post by theporcelainpele on Sept 12, 2023 21:41:11 GMT
Where the fuck is Stones anyway? Is he injured? Sorry I dont follow the premier league that closely these days Yeah he’s been injured since the community shield game but is due back any time now. |
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Post by stokieinlondon on Sept 12, 2023 21:42:44 GMT
Where the fuck is Stones anyway? Is he injured? Sorry I dont follow the premier league that closely these days Yes injured mate. One of a few England absentees - Grealish, Mount, Sterling, Shaw also missing with injuries |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Sept 12, 2023 21:42:59 GMT
He’s committed to them. I was literally it was a shame he did that 🤣 Ahhh I didn’t know that, thought we still had a chance. That shows some loyalty to the flag tbf as this current Ireland squad are absolutely woeful. Yeah he’s played for them in competitive games so can’t switch over. He grew up over there so it makes sense. Good to hear we asked and knowing you won’t get a shot because Kane is such an unmovable object in the side can’t help with those discussions. |
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Post by mrnovember on Sept 12, 2023 21:45:28 GMT
Indeed which is why it was a shame we couldn’t convince him to play for us and he is half English. 🤣 Why would we have internationally recognised centre forward Marcus Rashford? |
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Post by LphPotter on Sept 12, 2023 22:05:08 GMT
I’d play Rashford there. A big shame we couldn’t convince Ferguson he’s English. Rashford cannot play as a striker, haven’t you seen him when he plays there for Man United? |
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Post by emretezzy on Sept 12, 2023 22:11:23 GMT
I’d play Rashford there. A big shame we couldn’t convince Ferguson he’s English. Rashford cannot play as a striker, haven’t you seen him when he plays there for Man United? Shows a level of Football IQ to suggest just |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Sept 12, 2023 22:16:54 GMT
Rashford up front would make this team better with his movement and ability to switch with others in the front 3.
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Sept 12, 2023 22:22:04 GMT
Rashford up front would make this team better with his movement and ability to switch with others in the front 3. Go to sleep ya berk |
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Post by mrnovember on Sept 12, 2023 22:24:10 GMT
Rashford up front would make this team better with his movement and ability to switch with others in the front 3. 57 goals. That's all. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 12, 2023 22:44:58 GMT
Rashford up front would make this team better with his movement and ability to switch with others in the front 3. Have a day off mate ffs 😴 |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Sept 12, 2023 22:49:36 GMT
Rashford up front would make this team better with his movement and ability to switch with others in the front 3. 57 goals. That's all. For what? |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 12, 2023 23:29:21 GMT
'Delilah why' said 'Southgate is the best England Manager we've had for decades. Perhaps only 2nd to Ramsey in the all time list.' I'm close to agreeing with this. I think Sven Goran was better, and the caretaker Joe Mercer might have been if given a proper chance Not Venables? Venables managed big teams...spurs Barcelona also Bobby Robson... Ipswich, Newcastle, Barcelona. Southgate is no where near the level of the Venables and Robson. |
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Post by spitthedog on Sept 12, 2023 23:52:22 GMT
Venables managed big teams...spurs Barcelona also Bobby Robson... Ipswich, Newcastle, Barcelona. Southgate is no where near the level of the Venables and Robson. It doesn't mean that he cant achieve more as an England manager though. The guy who managed the last World Cup winners had never managed a club side in his life, nor won anything previously. |
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Post by Paul Spencer on Sept 13, 2023 0:03:53 GMT
1. Marcus Rashford is absolutely dog shit playing as a number 9, he knows it (and has said as much himself), Ten Hag knows it and the vast majority of people who have seen him play that position, know it. He needs the space the flank affords him, so he can use his pace, to terrify the defender infront of him and then cut in on his right foot, he is one of the best in the world at doing this but he's rubbish at receiving the ball with his back to goal and his hold up play is pants.
2. In my humble opinion, Harry Kane is the most complete striker in world football today (better than Haaland), he can literally do everything brilliantly that is required of any forward, save for electric pace. Last season Haaland scored 36 Prem goals playing for the best team in the world, Kane scored 30 playing for an utterly rancid Spurs side managed by a complete nut job. He (playing like a true leader) single-handedly dragged Tottenham to 8th place, who, without Kane would have finished bottom half. If Levy hadn't have played silly buggers with Citeh 18 months ago, Kane would already have a bunch of medals, breaking every record in the book, playing for them.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 13, 2023 0:17:34 GMT
Venables managed big teams...spurs Barcelona also Bobby Robson... Ipswich, Newcastle, Barcelona. Southgate is no where near the level of the Venables and Robson. It doesn't mean that he cant achieve more as an England manager though. The guy who managed the last World Cup winners had never managed a club side in his life, nor won anything previously. " Ramsey retired from playing aged 35 to become the manager of Ipswich Town, then in the third tier of English football. Ipswich rose through the divisions over the next six years, winning the Third Division South in 1956–57 and the Second Division in 1960–61. In the 1961–62 season, Ipswich's first-ever campaign in the top division, Ramsey's team defied expectations to become champions of England." But as you say, apart from taking Ipswich town, from the third division south to champions of England, what did Ramsey actually do in club football? Ramsey was offered the England job a year after taking Ipswich from the third division south to champions of England. |
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Post by sensiblestokie on Sept 13, 2023 0:25:56 GMT
Have I just read that right? You did but I don’t think I ever commited to that. There were a lot of people saying it though. It was a pretty common suggestion. Ronaldo making Juve and Man Yoo worse, that was me and it was true. Kane imo makes England worse. There is no way no one can convince me you aren’t chatting shit for attention after saying that. As if I needed confirmation, but this is definitely it. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 13, 2023 0:27:49 GMT
Ramsey played over 30 games for England and took Ipswich town from the third division south to champions of England.
Bobby Robson was a classy England international and fantastic Ipswich town manager ( he won the uefa cup with Ipswich town! Bringing through players like Paul mariner, Kevin beattie , Mick mills and Terry butcher . Then going on to prove himself a class act , at clubs like PSV , Barcelona. He is rated by everyone in the game as one of the greatest managers ever .
I hope Southgate proves the doubters ( me included!) Wrong.
I would love him to guide England to winning the euros or the world cup.
But right now, today, he is not as highly rated as Ramsey or Bobby Robson. Because he doesn't deserve to be.
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Post by sensiblestokie on Sept 13, 2023 0:29:12 GMT
1. Marcus Rashford is absolutely dog shit playing as a number 9, he knows it (and has said as much himself), Ten Hag knows it and the vast majority of people who have seen him play that position, know it. He needs the space the flank affords him, so he can use his pace, to terrify the defender infront of him and then cut in on his right foot, he is one of the best in the world at doing this but he's rubbish at receiving the ball with his back to goal and his hold up play is pants. 2. In my humble opinion, Harry Kane is the most complete striker in world football today (better than Haaland), he can literally do everything brilliantly that is required of any forward, save for electric pace. Last season Haaland scored 36 Prem goals playing for the best team in the world, Kane scored 30 playing for an utterly rancid Spurs side managed by a complete nut job. He (playing like a true leader) single-handedly dragged Tottenham to 8th place, who, without Kane would have finished bottom half. If Levy hadn't have played silly buggers with Citeh 18 months ago, Kane would already have a bunch of medals, breaking every record in the book, playing for them. Kane is phenomenal and world class. But I’m sure Haaland missed the equivalent of about 7-8 full games in minutes he didn’t play. Not saying I don’t agree with Kane being arguably the best all round striker in world football, just that he would never contribute the same amount of goals as Haaland. He doesn’t have the same eagerness to score and plays too deep. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 13, 2023 0:34:55 GMT
1. Marcus Rashford is absolutely dog shit playing as a number 9, he knows it (and has said as much himself), Ten Hag knows it and the vast majority of people who have seen him play that position, know it. He needs the space the flank affords him, so he can use his pace, to terrify the defender infront of him and then cut in on his right foot, he is one of the best in the world at doing this but he's rubbish at receiving the ball with his back to goal and his hold up play is pants. 2. In my humble opinion, Harry Kane is the most complete striker in world football today (better than Haaland), he can literally do everything brilliantly that is required of any forward, save for electric pace. Last season Haaland scored 36 Prem goals playing for the best team in the world, Kane scored 30 playing for an utterly rancid Spurs side managed by a complete nut job. He (playing like a true leader) single-handedly dragged Tottenham to 8th place, who, without Kane would have finished bottom half. If Levy hadn't have played silly buggers with Citeh 18 months ago, Kane would already have a bunch of medals, breaking every record in the book, playing for them. Kane is phenomenal and world class. But I’m sure Haaland missed the equivalent of about 7-8 full games in minutes he didn’t play. Not saying I don’t agree with Kane being arguably the best all round striker in world football, just that he would never contribute the same amount of goals as Haaland. He doesn’t have the same eagerness to score and plays too deep. This is complicated. I remember a couple of years ago, Son was the top scorer in the premier League, because 1) he is a tidy player and 2 ) harry kane provided in him with a huge amount of assists ( 20 ? I forget but loads ) Harry kane scores goals and creates ( assists) them. He is an absolutely top player. They are both top players, involved in loads of goals. |
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Post by sensiblestokie on Sept 13, 2023 0:45:04 GMT
For sure. I’m not disputing Kane’s striking prowess.
Im just saying the argument that he got 30 goals in a Spurs team (basically saying he would score the same in Man City’s) isn’t a foregone conclusion. Further more actually massively unlikely.
He doesn’t have the pace Haaland has to consistently score, the hunger, the running and physical power. There is a reason that Haaland has scored a goal a game in every team he’s played in (at 23 years old!)
Kane plays deep and gets involved in the game, also his 30 goal haul, albeit massively impressive, is the best return he has ever done. He’s also 30 and in his absolute prime. Haaland has had a few better seasons goal scoring wise than Kane ever has, or will.
I can see some teams preferring a Kane, as he is all round the better footballer. I just disagree with the argument he would score as many in a Man City team.
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Post by Paul Spencer on Sept 13, 2023 1:28:22 GMT
For sure. I’m not disputing Kane’s striking prowess. Im just saying the argument that he got 30 goals in a Spurs team (basically saying he would score the same in Man City’s) isn’t a foregone conclusion. Further more actually massively unlikely. He doesn’t have the pace Haaland has to consistently score, the hunger, the running and physical power. There is a reason that Haaland has scored a goal a game in every team he’s played in (at 23 years old!) Kane plays deep and gets involved in the game, also his 30 goal haul, albeit massively impressive, is the best return he has ever done. He’s also 30 and in his absolute prime. Haaland has had a few better seasons goal scoring wise than Kane ever has, or will. I can see some teams preferring a Kane, as he is all round the better footballer. I just disagree with the argument he would score as many in a Man City team. You genuinely don't believe that Kane who scored 30 goals in an absolutely dogshit football team couldn't score an extra 6 goals playing for the best team in the world? Not to mention, the huge amount of extra assists he would have provided over Haaland. Kane would have been an utter sensation at Citeh (that's why Pep wanted him so bad), it's just a shame that Levy's arrogance, robbed both the player and the world of that opportunity to see. |
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Post by Paul Spencer on Sept 13, 2023 2:13:55 GMT
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Post by scfcwebby on Sept 13, 2023 4:04:47 GMT
Why didn't we wear this? 🤔 |
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Post by Trouserdog on Sept 13, 2023 5:16:15 GMT
Rashford up front would make this team better with his movement and ability to switch with others in the front 3. ??? Is this the latest attempt at 'Harry Kane is crap'. Your judgement of footballers is honestly worse than anyone else's on the internet. |
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Post by lordb on Sept 13, 2023 6:30:40 GMT
Venables managed big teams...spurs Barcelona also Bobby Robson... Ipswich, Newcastle, Barcelona. Southgate is no where near the level of the Venables and Robson. And yet did more with less for England and without any of the off the field rubbish that hampered every England manager before him |
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Post by lordb on Sept 13, 2023 6:34:08 GMT
Ramsey played over 30 games for England and took Ipswich town from the third division south to champions of England. Bobby Robson was a classy England international and fantastic Ipswich town manager ( he won the uefa cup with Ipswich town! Bringing through players like Paul mariner, Kevin beattie , Mick mills and Terry butcher . Then going on to prove himself a class act , at clubs like PSV , Barcelona. He is rated by everyone in the game as one of the greatest managers ever . I hope Southgate proves the doubters ( me included!) Wrong. I would love him to guide England to winning the euros or the world cup. But right now, today, he is not as highly rated as Ramsey or Bobby Robson. Because he doesn't deserve to be. Robson failed to qualify for Euro 84 (OK it was harder then) Euro 88 we lost all 3 games despite on paper having an excellent side, with a fit Bryan Robson too 'in the name of God go' was the headline Southgate is the best since Ramsey, that's fact not opinion |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Sept 13, 2023 7:43:50 GMT
You did but I don’t think I ever commited to that. There were a lot of people saying it though. It was a pretty common suggestion. Ronaldo making Juve and Man Yoo worse, that was me and it was true. Kane imo makes England worse. There is no way no one can convince me you aren’t chatting shit for attention after saying that. As if I needed confirmation, but this is definitely it. I couldn’t give a shit what you think tbh. |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Sept 13, 2023 7:44:52 GMT
Rashford up front would make this team better with his movement and ability to switch with others in the front 3. ??? Is this the latest attempt at 'Harry Kane is crap'. Your judgement of footballers is honestly worse than anyone else's on the internet. I don’t think he’s crap. I think he makes the teams he plays in worse as he tries to do much and is the focus of them too much. With no end results. |
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