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Post by lordb on Sept 16, 2023 16:09:30 GMT
Gayle - a poacher - couldn't poach an egg. Wonder if we should of paid the extra for the lad from wba...vidigal and mmae apart we look poor across our front line. Would assume we simply didn't have the extra budget to make that happen
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Post by roylandstoke on Sept 16, 2023 16:09:43 GMT
Enda back, Vidigal back and persevere with Mmaee. Campbell needs to be benched for Haks perhaps. I still think it’s a time of integration so will give it another month. Campbell, I wouldn't have him left back in the changing rooms, he's missed two good chances today, Burger's missed a good chance and Gayle aswell There’s a chance Neil will play him LB next game, with Jun Ho as target man.
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Post by headsgoup on Sept 16, 2023 16:10:33 GMT
Overall we haven't played too badly today. We've learned Jun ho needs to strenghten up or not play wide left. Lleris isnt a competent right back. Wesley needs to play as bad as he is because Gayle cant finish. Midfield 3 were decent and should start most games when we are expected to need to be better defensively. Rose and Wilmot played okay Gooch is reliable and can play either side. Haks starts without vidigal, he may even replace Campbell in games without space. Jnr looks ready for the championship. Thing is, we knew at least six of those things already. And I'm just some bloke sat here watching the matches on TV. Neil's with them day in, day out. What do they do all day? And are they hiring?
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Post by vidigal7 on Sept 16, 2023 16:10:47 GMT
Who Norwich? You watched a different game to me first half, they come out at 100mph intentionally to not give an unsettled 11 chance to settle, it worked a treat. Best thing is, as good as they are at home we should have scored 3 goals with better finishing but let's just ignore that shall we? They were hanging on late second half. Disappointing first half, it's almost as though we looked like what we are, a group of players that havnt settled as a team yet.
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Post by boothenender on Sept 16, 2023 16:11:04 GMT
Hello darkness my old friend....
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Post by roylandstoke on Sept 16, 2023 16:11:49 GMT
Overall we haven't played too badly today. We've learned Jun ho needs to strenghten up or not play wide left. Lleris isnt a competent right back. Wesley needs to play as bad as he is because Gayle cant finish. Midfield 3 were decent and should start most games when we are expected to need to be better defensively. Rose and Wilmot played okay Gooch is reliable and can play either side. Haks starts without vidigal, he may even replace Campbell in games without space. Jnr looks ready for the championship. Thing is, we knew at least six of those things already. And I'm just some bloke sat here watching the matches on TV. Neil's with them day in, day out. What do they do all day? And are they hiring? I don’t think they meet up between games at all.
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Post by headsgoup on Sept 16, 2023 16:11:49 GMT
Campbell, I wouldn't have him left back in the changing rooms, he's missed two good chances today, Burger's missed a good chance and Gayle aswell There’s a chance Neil will play him LB next game, with Jun Ho as target man. Quiet you, he might be listening!
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Post by innocentbystander on Sept 16, 2023 16:11:50 GMT
Campbell must not start next match.
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Post by samuel32 on Sept 16, 2023 16:12:03 GMT
That was wank. Blindingly obvious what Neil needs to change...
Junior at RB. Hak at LW. And start Johnson. Laurent could do with a rest.
And can he tell them to start competing at 0-0, not when we go 1-0 down. We looked worryingly short of ideas first half
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Post by Han Solo on Sept 16, 2023 16:13:52 GMT
Very disappointing. Zero energy or hunger.
It feels like we’ve got decent players but they’re badly coached and badly motivated.
I’m not quite sure what he was trying to do today
- Loris isn’t a fullback and was hung out to dry. - Wesley was shocking. Should have been hauled off at HT - If we’re playing 3 in CM play a proper AM. Johnson or Bae. Drop Laurent of if he won’t do that then Pearson. - Stop changing your CBs and don’t instruct them to pass around aimlessly and keep giving the ball away as they haven’t got the technical ability. - Don’t play Campbell out wide. The efforts just not there. Should have started with Haks. Until Mmaee’s back play him in the middle.
Christ we need Vidigal and Mmaee back and soon.
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Post by steinovschmeichel on Sept 16, 2023 16:16:06 GMT
We are as wank as the weather
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Post by boothenender on Sept 16, 2023 16:16:32 GMT
I am finding it increasingly difficult to find any reasons to watch Stoke City. Most of my mates have stopped going to Stoke after years of following them. All i want is a bit of entertainment not torturing.
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Post by GrahamHyde on Sept 16, 2023 16:19:50 GMT
I'm fuming at that display - will take a bit longer to get over, we were miles off the pace.
Could have played all night and not scored a goal - absolutely toss.
I know it's early but that was the performance of a League One side.
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Post by tqstokie on Sept 16, 2023 16:21:19 GMT
I've come to talk to you again...
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Post by loosestools on Sept 16, 2023 16:22:07 GMT
I'm fuming at that display - will take a bit longer to get over, we were miles off the pace. Could have played all night and not scored a goal - absolutely toss. I know it's early but that was the performance of a League One side. L1 players are coached better.
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Post by Staffsoatcake on Sept 16, 2023 16:23:17 GMT
We can't keep clean sheets, we are unable to score, them 2 alone are bad enough, but when your midfielders create nothing at all, that's a remody for disaster.
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Post by Han Solo on Sept 16, 2023 16:23:33 GMT
Huge huge 2 games coming up. Less than 4 points and AN will be in trouble. We’ve got a very difficult 5 games after that as well. Troubling times ahead. He's definitely concerning me with lineups when he's a supposed "tactician" he just went to Norwich with one of the worst setups I've seen since Lambert. There’s been a few games this season where he’s clearly started the wrong side. Today was yet another example. I just hope that Mmaee and Vidigal are back soon however I think it’ll be another case of being returning soon for 3 months.
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Post by Staffsoatcake on Sept 16, 2023 16:25:07 GMT
Neils had a few words at half time hasnt he.... Hopefully we dont get suckered in for a counter attack goal. Mores the pity he didn't use the two weeks before the first half to have a chat. Why not have those words before we KO?
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Post by tejstokie on Sept 16, 2023 16:25:28 GMT
He's definitely concerning me with lineups when he's a supposed "tactician" he just went to Norwich with one of the worst setups I've seen since Lambert. There’s been a few games this season where he’s clearly started the wrong side. Today was yet another example. I just hope that Mmaee and Vidigal are back soon however I think it’ll be another case of being returning soon for 3 months. Yep. Here's to hoping our best "tacticians" at the club are the pyshio's to get those two back asap.
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Post by chiswickpotter on Sept 16, 2023 16:25:46 GMT
Overall we haven't played too badly today. We've learned Jun ho needs to strenghten up or not play wide left. Lleris isnt a competent right back. Wesley needs to play as bad as he is because Gayle cant finish. Midfield 3 were decent and should start most games when we are expected to need to be better defensively. Rose and Wilmot played okay Gooch is reliable and can play either side. Haks starts without vidigal, he may even replace Campbell in games without space. Jnr looks ready for the championship. Agree we haven’t played too badly but disagree on midfield, that’s where our problems were. Pearson plays too deep and is detached from the other two. As a result Burger and Laurent get stuck too deep and neither offered any support to Wesley, never mind running past him. We need to play a number ten rather than 2 8s to give the striker more support whether it is Maaee or Wesley. Defence will be okay with Gooch and Junior, Hoever and Stevens as full backs (albeit a bit right sided) GK is sorted. I would leave out Laurent and play a proper ten, either BAe or Haks
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Post by collo68 on Sept 16, 2023 16:27:05 GMT
Terrible for long stretches. Some ok play in patches. Neil better start playing people where they should play. Junior and Hoever are RBs so he plays a forward there. Getting no LB in and letting Tymon go was moronic too. So depressing. I think we have acquired some decent players, let's hope the manager steps up. I don’t understand how he’s managed to fuck up the full backs and centre backs so badly. Gooch is a good player but he’s right footed and just wanted to come back inside all the time, he shouldn’t be playing LB. But we’ve only got one older left back now….thanks AN. RB is a bit better and like the look of Junior, and we know Hoever is quality on his day….so why is a winger starting there, away from home??? CB’s….Rose is league 1 standard in my view. Not good enough at this level, but just about does a job. Keeps getting beaten with balls over his head. We should have got some experience in at the back. The only thing he’s got right in terms of defence is the keeper who looks very good. What a load of roundish re Rose, he’s done nothing wrong today
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Post by spoton on Sept 16, 2023 16:27:07 GMT
I am finding it increasingly difficult to find any reasons to watch Stoke City. Most of my mates have stopped going to Stoke after years of following them. All i want is a bit of entertainment not torturing. Feel exactly the same, not interested in going to the ground and now not interested in watching them on TV and thats after having a season ticket for 40 years,all the pre season hope now gone completely I was sure this manager was better but no chance,all he does is talk a good game
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Post by FullerMagic on Sept 16, 2023 16:28:11 GMT
Wesley is really starting to worry me.
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Post by smudger46 on Sept 16, 2023 16:28:52 GMT
manager after manager have never addressed the striker situation, not had a decent one for i dont know how long,
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Post by Staffsoatcake on Sept 16, 2023 16:29:00 GMT
65 minutes, any shots on target yet? Don't be daft. They have been told, anyone who shoots will be fined.
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Post by collo68 on Sept 16, 2023 16:29:32 GMT
Very disappointing. Zero energy or hunger. It feels like we’ve got decent players but they’re badly coached and badly motivated. I’m not quite sure what he was trying to do today - Loris isn’t a fullback and was hung out to dry. - Wesley was shocking. Should have been hauled off at HT - If we’re playing 3 in CM play a proper AM. Johnson or Bae. Drop Laurent of if he won’t do that then Pearson. - Stop changing your CBs and don’t instruct them to pass around aimlessly and keep giving the ball away as they haven’t got the technical ability. - Don’t play Campbell out wide. The efforts just not there. Should have started with Haks. Until Mmaee’s back play him in the middle. Christ we need Vidigal and Mmaee back and soon. Even with cameo performances though I think we can start to see who’s going to start. Vid and MM along with the Celtic lad front 3, back 4 how it finished until Stevens is fit and for me Burger Pearson, Johnson or Lauren. Bed in Junho with sun appearances
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Post by biddulphchav on Sept 16, 2023 16:32:17 GMT
I don’t understand how he’s managed to fuck up the full backs and centre backs so badly. Gooch is a good player but he’s right footed and just wanted to come back inside all the time, he shouldn’t be playing LB. But we’ve only got one older left back now….thanks AN. RB is a bit better and like the look of Junior, and we know Hoever is quality on his day….so why is a winger starting there, away from home??? CB’s….Rose is league 1 standard in my view. Not good enough at this level, but just about does a job. Keeps getting beaten with balls over his head. We should have got some experience in at the back. The only thing he’s got right in terms of defence is the keeper who looks very good. What a load of roundish re Rose, he’s done nothing wrong today He got beaten by a straight ball over his head today again, in the 2nd half. Gooch came across from LB and covered the run. For me, that’s not good enough at this level - and it’s not the first time it’s happened this season. I don’t rate him.
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Post by stokie23 on Sept 16, 2023 16:32:55 GMT
Campbell can't start the next game. Should have scored at least 2 today, and that one just before HT changes everything. Joke.
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Post by prestwichpotter on Sept 16, 2023 16:33:17 GMT
Wesley is really starting to worry me. Because of his lack of speed and general mobility, and his inability to score goals you mean?
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Post by FullerMagic on Sept 16, 2023 16:34:10 GMT
Wesley is really starting to worry me. Because of his lack of speed and general mobility, and his inability to score goals you mean?
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