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Post by potterpanzera on Sept 16, 2023 16:01:50 GMT
another frustrating performance...what could have been. Hask & Junior looked positive but otherwise we need someone to start biting because we seem too shy in all departments. Burger is getting stuck in somewhat which is great to see plus some of his wide link up play is creative. I find myself sitting, however, and thinking "what are you waiting for" with each move...just timid. Uncertain about Campbell. He does provide impetus but he just keeps missing :/ Gooch, to me, is a tryer, much like Stevens so quite happy with him today. Shame today. Not our worst but damn, Norwich looked sharp in the first but more like us in the second. A point was there to take.
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Post by baconburger on Sept 16, 2023 16:01:55 GMT
Can we say there are a few positives to be taken from that or do we just have to slit our wrists.
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Post by jimmygscfc1234 on Sept 16, 2023 16:02:18 GMT
Enda back, Vidigal back and persevere with Mmaee. Campbell needs to be benched for Haks perhaps. I still think it’s a time of integration so will give it another month.
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Sept 16, 2023 16:02:20 GMT
Early season good feeling gone....😮💨
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Post by viewfromthecrowsnest on Sept 16, 2023 16:02:34 GMT
Just seen replays. Ben Gibson on Wes very luck to get away with that. And Stacy missing the header and it clearly comes of his arm. VAR would have picked them up easily.
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Post by boskampsflaps on Sept 16, 2023 16:02:37 GMT
Because Campbell won't go for the ball in the air, Wesley coming off has stopped us being able to do it. Wesley is pretty useless in the air. Not sure his presence would have changed anything. I dont see much to his game at all. But he did more than Campbell did when up top, I'm not saying Wes is the best in the league but he's better than anyone we currently have and should have stayed on imo. We're too slow without that option, Wilmot just holds onto it without any clue what to do with it then gives it away more often than not.
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Post by nott1 on Sept 16, 2023 16:02:49 GMT
Doomed, we're doomed Ah tell thee Cappen Mainwaring.
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Post by milky on Sept 16, 2023 16:02:51 GMT
Worrying ,it really is.
4 defeats in 6 games ,1 goal scored in the last 5 ,4 blanks out of 6 and like against Preston we wouldn't have scored if we played all night ,summed up perfectly by the air shot from Gayle at the death from 4 yards out .
The manager is even more worrying. Starting Leris at RB then waiting until almost 75 mins to swap him for Junior.
We need to improve, and quickly!
I'm all for giving time for the players to gel but not being able to make simple passes ,being able to control the ball or tackle should be basic stuff surely ?
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Post by tejstokie on Sept 16, 2023 16:02:53 GMT
Huge huge 2 games coming up. Less than 4 points and AN will be in trouble. We’ve got a very difficult 5 games after that as well. Troubling times ahead. He's definitely concerning me with lineups when he's a supposed "tactician" he just went to Norwich with one of the worst setups I've seen since Lambert.
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Post by barcaontrent on Sept 16, 2023 16:03:06 GMT
Well, Norwich are fucking shit. Pisser funny how many of these shit teams beat us easily
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Post by bridgnorthstokie on Sept 16, 2023 16:04:00 GMT
Gayle - a poacher - couldn't poach an egg. Wonder if we should of paid the extra for the lad from wba...vidigal and mmae apart we look poor across our front line.
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Post by matelot1996 on Sept 16, 2023 16:04:49 GMT
Campbell, Wesley, Laurent, Gayle. Just fuck off AN.😂
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Post by onyourbonce on Sept 16, 2023 16:04:55 GMT
Well, Norwich are fucking shit. Pisser They wer crap, simple.
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Post by stokesaint1 on Sept 16, 2023 16:05:24 GMT
18th position in the league. Has a familiar feel to things.
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Post by headsgoup on Sept 16, 2023 16:05:26 GMT
I'd like to see that handball shout again. We'd have missed any pen we get, obvs. It would have been with VAR. The defender stopped honestly to head it, but missed and the ball hit his arm, stopping it from going across goal. Very hard for a live ref to see, though.
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Post by loosestools on Sept 16, 2023 16:05:30 GMT
Right, I'm off to the pub, thank goodness Wolves lost, just the Villa yawpers to contend with.
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Post by nott1 on Sept 16, 2023 16:05:42 GMT
Gayle - a poacher - couldn't poach an egg. Wonder if we should of paid the extra for the lad from wba...vidigal and mmae apart we look poor across our front line. We really should!
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Post by stokieben28 on Sept 16, 2023 16:05:51 GMT
F Gayle, haven't forgot when he shushed the Stoke fans away at West brazil, we surely can't renew his contract next summer. Couldn't score past a under 10s team
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Post by loosestools on Sept 16, 2023 16:06:15 GMT
Gayle - a poacher - couldn't poach an egg. Wonder if we should of paid the extra for the lad from wba...vidigal and mmae apart we look poor across our front line. Defiantly
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Post by marwood on Sept 16, 2023 16:06:26 GMT
"Jack Stacey's first goal in three years gave the Canaries the lead"
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Post by tuum on Sept 16, 2023 16:06:28 GMT
Unlucky, deserved something in the end even though we were pretty awful first half. Nice words..but ultimately we have done something similar for 3 games now. Poor start. Concede. Huff and Puff but never really control or threaten. Lose. Let's face it we are a very easy team to defend against. Most managers in this division are not daft. AN has a problem that he needs to address. I am ok with giving him some time but the performances to date have not been good enough.
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Post by etebojan on Sept 16, 2023 16:06:44 GMT
Just seen replays. Ben Gibson on Wes very luck to get away with that. And Stacy missing the header and it clearly comes of his arm. VAR would have picked them up easily. also potential shirt pull on Leris that would have been given by some ref's 3 potential penalties that might have gone our way with VAR
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Post by onyourbonce on Sept 16, 2023 16:06:50 GMT
funny how many of these shit teams beat us easily Because we are worse, doesn’t make them good. Watched the game, thought they wer rubbish. We just can’t score, as I said on my original post. And I wouldn’t say easily beaten, it was 1-0 not 9-0
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Post by vidigal7 on Sept 16, 2023 16:07:00 GMT
Enda back, Vidigal back and persevere with Mmaee. Campbell needs to be benched for Haks perhaps. I still think it’s a time of integration so will give it another month. Campbell, I wouldn't have him left back in the changing rooms, he's missed two good chances today, Burger's missed a good chance and Gayle aswell
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Post by Block 26 on Sept 16, 2023 16:07:11 GMT
I’m usually looking at around £100 spend per away game & that is the reason which I didn’t go today. I still go to every home game, but I cannot justify paying the money for the performances we put out away from home currently. There will be some quiet fans on the coaches on the way home, I take my hat off to them. Simply not good enough yet again.
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Post by JoeinOz on Sept 16, 2023 16:07:51 GMT
Early season good feeling gone....😮💨 well and truly gone mate
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Post by boskampsflaps on Sept 16, 2023 16:08:06 GMT
Unlucky, deserved something in the end even though we were pretty awful first half. Nice words..but ultimately we have done something similar for 3 games now. Poor start. Concede. Huff and Puff but never really control or threaten. Lose. Let's face it we are a very easy team to defend against. Most managers in this division are not daft. AN has a problem that he needs to address. I am ok with giving him some time but the performances to date have not been good enough. Change the formation, the wingback/fullback thing isn't really working.
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Post by lordb on Sept 16, 2023 16:08:42 GMT
Can we say there are a few positives to be taken from that or do we just have to slit our wrists. Haksabanovic and Junior looked positive We kept Barnes quiet dominated the ball second half Gooch was good 3 penalty shouts But it just wasn't good enough was it Sloppy first half with the ball Midfield 3 no more than OK throughout Joon Ho and Ty looked lost wide Wes isolated The last penalty shout was a penno, the others weren't Norwich should have been ahead well before they did score
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Post by tqstokie on Sept 16, 2023 16:08:51 GMT
We played better when Haksabanovic and Junior came on. Both very good footballers. How Campbell survived the 90 minutes I don't know he was not very good to be polite. We desperately need someone to start taking simple chances. We need Vidigal and Mmaee back soonest.
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Post by biddulphchav on Sept 16, 2023 16:09:11 GMT
Terrible for long stretches. Some ok play in patches. Neil better start playing people where they should play. Junior and Hoever are RBs so he plays a forward there. Getting no LB in and letting Tymon go was moronic too. So depressing. I think we have acquired some decent players, let's hope the manager steps up. I don’t understand how he’s managed to fuck up the full backs and centre backs so badly. Gooch is a good player but he’s right footed and just wanted to come back inside all the time, he shouldn’t be playing LB. But we’ve only got one older left back now….thanks AN. RB is a bit better and like the look of Junior, and we know Hoever is quality on his day….so why is a winger starting there, away from home??? CB’s….Rose is league 1 standard in my view. Not good enough at this level, but just about does a job. Keeps getting beaten with balls over his head. We should have got some experience in at the back. The only thing he’s got right in terms of defence is the keeper who looks very good.
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