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Post by davethebass on Oct 19, 2023 9:58:36 GMT
I've heard of: "cold enough freeze the nipples off a witch's tits" (as an alternative to "cold enough freeze the balls off a brass monkey"). Brass monkeys , yes but never the one referring to the Hooters of a spellcasting, sorceress "Spellcasting sorceress". Lol I like it |
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Post by xchpotter on Oct 19, 2023 9:59:22 GMT
Which player do people think gets injured next? Gotta keep the medical tent working close to max capacity. I’m going for Travers just to properly finish us off. |
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Post by Clayton Wood on Oct 19, 2023 10:10:41 GMT
Brass monkeys , yes but never the one referring to the Hooters of a spellcasting, sorceress "Spellcasting sorceress". Lol I like it Didn't Spellcasting sorceress support etc etc. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 19, 2023 13:39:36 GMT
I really think he is going to be given the full season as to ditch another manager just isn’t going to fly with the hierarchy and especially with all the fanfare re tricky Dicky and Google boy. The same old excuses will be wheeled out- time to integrate, unlock with injuries etc all with the hope that somehow something clicks. Best case scenario we do pick up second half of the season, retain our championship status with another dour 16th to 20th position. Worst case scenario we are relegated having never looked anything different to what we are now, an absolute shambles. AN is starting to get right on my tits, all this shit about tactical awareness and setting up differently for each bloody game. Somebody needs to tell him to start with the bloody basics like getting a team that can play one formation well, competes from minute one and doesn’t look shagged after 60 minutes. I used to hate playing Preston when he was manager, they were physical, dirty and direct. How the hell he has gone from producing that (which is just what we need) to the powder puff shite we are watching is beyond incredulity. If I didn’t know any better I would say he is working for unknown entities to specifically get us relegated. AN doesn't have tactical awareness. If he did we would see someone ( Wilmott? McNally?) organising our defending of free kicks and corner kicks. We don't see that , we see a shambles for set pieces and lots of looking around for who to blame( usually Rose !) when the ball ends up in our net . Moving forward we would see crafty Stoke , getting overloads ( 2 on 1) again and again. I remember going to Fulham v Stoke in their promotion season and every time they attacked us they had either Carvalho or harry Wilson, totally free on an overload, repeatedly ( must have happened a dozen times) . Well done Marco Silva How often does AN serve that up at the Bet 365 ? Never If he was tactical ( he isn't) , we would see Stoke getting through, if not on an overload then on a third man run. Junho plays it up to lowe and as he shields the ball , Someone else comes running through on a third man run . A simple pass from lowe and he is in . How often do we see AN serving up patterns of play , that look unthreatening until a Stoke shirt comes ghosting in out of nowhere, with a clever third man run. Rarely , and even then it is not a tactic, it's because Hoever is playing and boy does Hoever love a third man run. Shite defender but ace at third man runs . AN doesn't serve up fluid football with overloads and third man runs. Unlike Marco Silva , he is the least tactical manager ever . Talking about tactics on you tube and Radio Stoke however he is in his element. He loves talking tactics. |
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Post by retrostoke on Oct 19, 2023 14:02:34 GMT
Gets more ridiculous on here by the day. We have so many tactical genius’s it’s frightening
Who knows what he sends them out to do. It’s usually an individual error in the moment that costs us
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Post by marylandstoke on Oct 19, 2023 14:18:18 GMT
Gets more ridiculous on here by the day. We have so many tactical genius’s it’s frightening Who knows what he sends them out to do. It’s usually an individual error in the moment that costs us “Who knows what he sends them out to do” Brilliant. |
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Post by jesusmcmuffin on Oct 19, 2023 15:58:17 GMT
Gets more ridiculous on here by the day. We have so many tactical genius’s it’s frightening Who knows what he sends them out to do. It’s usually an individual error in the moment that costs us But we don't have one where it matters |
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Post by starkiller on Oct 19, 2023 16:03:38 GMT
I don't even see us bullied that much, just flat performances with opposition just doing enough to win without too much effort teams don't have to bully us we are that poor Can't be doing with that bullied excuse in football. I think other teams are just far better at picking up second balls etc than us and are set up far better , especially to control the midfield. Neil chopping and changing early in games is a great indication of how badly he gets it wrong He also does the change nothing approach, because change is admitting he messed up again. |
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Post by jesusmcmuffin on Oct 19, 2023 16:06:09 GMT
Can't be doing with that bullied excuse in football. I think other teams are just far better at picking up second balls etc than us and are set up far better , especially to control the midfield. Neil chopping and changing early in games is a great indication of how badly he gets it wrong He also does the change nothing approach, because change is admitting he messed up again. Leicester was bizarre |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Oct 19, 2023 16:22:44 GMT
Gets more ridiculous on here by the day. We have so many tactical genius’s it’s frightening Who knows what he sends them out to do. It’s usually an individual error in the moment that costs us "Who knows what he sends them out to do" Is that meant to be a defence of him? Or is it sarcasm? Apologies if it is  |
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Post by stokeyank on Oct 19, 2023 19:31:17 GMT
Being tactically aware means looking at the pattern of play of the opposition and adjusting player positioning during a game. This usually happens when the other side gets the ball for an extended spell and shows what they are trying to do. Typically between 10-20 minutes in. Sometimes it's covered and working by what you already have, others is having a midfielder drop deeper or to one side, others is totally changing your formation.
Problem so far seems to be we don't have any consistent starting point to work from. When you roll out 4 different setups over the course of 4 games any adjustment is going to unbalance even the best and most aware player. If you start from a consistent base then the changes can be easily understood. I know little about what all those tactics are and how I would adjust (I'm sure as hell no football manager) but I can tell when players constantly look lost and unsure of where and what their jobs are each week.
We should always be starting in one formation whatever it is (I like 4-2-3-1 but whatever). From that point, where players know their jobs, you can tell one or two to shift positionally and counter the other team. Plus the other players in your team will understand the shift and be comfortable. Making adjustments may be rocket surgery, but starting from a single point is not!
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Post by dano75 on Oct 19, 2023 23:17:37 GMT
Lose on Saturday at home and get rid pronto ! No ideas who comes in as long as this manager goes, he’s been shite since day 1. Total gobshite who talks very well but delivers fuck all ! Get him out.
Shit show
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Oct 20, 2023 0:37:50 GMT
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Post by danceswithclams on Oct 20, 2023 0:37:50 GMT
Who knows what he sends them out to do? Certainly not the players by the looks of it. |
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Post by jesusmcmuffin on Oct 20, 2023 0:45:52 GMT
Lose on Saturday at home and get rid pronto ! No ideas who comes in as long as this manager goes, he’s been shite since day 1. Total gobshite who talks very well but delivers fuck all ! Get him out. Shit show Yep 100% all of that |
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Post by fishlovesoatcakes on Oct 20, 2023 1:25:23 GMT
Lose on Saturday at home and get rid pronto ! No ideas who comes in as long as this manager goes, he’s been shite since day 1. Total gobshite who talks very well but delivers fuck all ! Get him out. Shit show Probably one on the most bizarre posts I've read in a while. Utterly ridiculous. |
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Post by jesusmcmuffin on Oct 20, 2023 1:29:03 GMT
Lose on Saturday at home and get rid pronto ! No ideas who comes in as long as this manager goes, he’s been shite since day 1. Total gobshite who talks very well but delivers fuck all ! Get him out. Shit show Probably one on the most bizarre posts I've read in a while. Utterly ridiculous. Is it? He's been shite since day 1..his record is atrocious He talks and doesn't deliver Why is it ridiculous in any way? |
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Post by Bagwash on Oct 20, 2023 5:46:10 GMT
I posted after the Leicester game that if he sets us up the same against Sunderland and Leeds,especially with us being at home then we will lose both and he will deserve to be sacked.
Call it misplaced optimism but I think we are going to beat Sunderland but I reckon we are in for a long might against Leeds.
Fingers and legs crossed.
GGOOAAARRNN STOKE
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Post by NassauDave on Oct 20, 2023 6:37:30 GMT
Lose on Saturday at home and get rid pronto ! No ideas who comes in as long as this manager goes, he’s been shite since day 1. Total gobshite who talks very well but delivers fuck all ! Get him out. Shit show 100% spot on. He's useless. Book him Dano. |
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Oct 20, 2023 6:38:28 GMT
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Post by NassauDave on Oct 20, 2023 6:38:28 GMT
Probably one on the most bizarre posts I've read in a while. Utterly ridiculous. Is it? He's been shite since day 1..his record is atrocious He talks and doesn't deliver Why is it ridiculous in any way? He is indeed shite. |
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Post by fishlovesoatcakes on Oct 20, 2023 6:55:45 GMT
Probably one on the most bizarre posts I've read in a while. Utterly ridiculous. Is it? He's been shite since day 1..his record is atrocious He talks and doesn't deliver Why is it ridiculous in any way? Get anyone in, really? Fucking bonkers |
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Post by jesusmcmuffin on Oct 20, 2023 12:16:05 GMT
Is it? He's been shite since day 1..his record is atrocious He talks and doesn't deliver Why is it ridiculous in any way? Get anyone in, really? Fucking bonkers The Alex Neil comments are accurate though ? |
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Oct 20, 2023 13:02:40 GMT
No manger ever has recovered from a run like ours since March amd gone in to be successful at the same club as far as I can recall , it’s now just a matter of timing sk it’s a hard watch as it’s coming for sure , not sure when
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Post by vidigal7 on Oct 20, 2023 13:07:19 GMT
No manger ever has recovered from a run like ours since March amd gone in to be successful at the same club as far as I can recall , it’s now just a matter of timing sk it’s a hard watch as it’s coming for sure , not sure when You're talking of entirely different squads of players as if it's the same. Time Gelling & acclimatising when you've changed so many players is standard |
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Oct 20, 2023 13:13:02 GMT
No manger ever has recovered from a run like ours since March amd gone in to be successful at the same club as far as I can recall , it’s now just a matter of timing sk it’s a hard watch as it’s coming for sure , not sure when You're talking of entirely different squads of players as if it's the same. Time Gelling & acclimatising when you've changed so many players is standard As I said no one can name a manager that’s survived a run of either 50 plus games like this or indeed that last 12 and gone on to succeed I genuinely cwnt think of one anywhere it’s such a diabolical trajectory |
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Oct 20, 2023 13:20:51 GMT
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Post by vidigal7 on Oct 20, 2023 13:20:51 GMT
You're talking of entirely different squads of players as if it's the same. Time Gelling & acclimatising when you've changed so many players is standard As I said no one can name a manager that’s survived a run of either 50 plus games like this or indeed that last 12 and gone on to succeed I genuinely cwnt think of one anywhere it’s such a diabolical trajectory It's two different squads, last years was rubbish and not of Neil's making. Neil needs wingers and we didn't have any for a start. You can blame the owners for that and their thought process when selecting managers and the timing when they sack them, they've picked managers that the players don't suit. We've done it for ages picking managers that dont suit the players and it's why nobody succeeds here. Judge him on his own team |
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Oct 20, 2023 13:21:26 GMT
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Post by jesusmcmuffin on Oct 20, 2023 13:21:26 GMT
You're talking of entirely different squads of players as if it's the same. Time Gelling & acclimatising when you've changed so many players is standard As I said no one can name a manager that’s survived a run of either 50 plus games like this or indeed that last 12 and gone on to succeed I genuinely cwnt think of one anywhere it’s such a diabolical trajectory Even managers in safe jobs where little is expected would be disappointed with that record ..say Ainsworth at Wycombe when in our league as an example. |
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Post by werrington on Oct 20, 2023 14:06:58 GMT
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Post by lordb on Oct 20, 2023 14:17:52 GMT
No manger ever has recovered from a run like ours since March amd gone in to be successful at the same club as far as I can recall , it’s now just a matter of timing sk it’s a hard watch as it’s coming for sure , not sure when Dean Smith at Villa Ian Dowie at Palace rare but it does happen I don't believe it will happen mid, I'd change the manager now however it is possible |
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Post by lordb on Oct 20, 2023 14:18:31 GMT
No manger ever has recovered from a run like ours since March amd gone in to be successful at the same club as far as I can recall , it’s now just a matter of timing sk it’s a hard watch as it’s coming for sure , not sure when You're talking of entirely different squads of players as if it's the same. Time Gelling & acclimatising when you've changed so many players is standard It's 20th October |
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Oct 20, 2023 16:23:56 GMT
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Post by vidigal7 on Oct 20, 2023 16:23:56 GMT
You're talking of entirely different squads of players as if it's the same. Time Gelling & acclimatising when you've changed so many players is standard It's 20th October I'm aware of that but you have to take into account a lack of pre-season and injuries, it's not been plain sailing, far from it |
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