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Alex Neil
Oct 1, 2023 15:24:16 GMT
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Post by tommycarlsberg on Oct 1, 2023 15:24:16 GMT
I think a decent draw, with a good performance, and a non-heavy defeat to Leicester, would be my minimum threshold for getting to the break as manager. The hope then would be that Stevens and a couple of forwards return to kick us on. I loved yesterday’s win but we are still in a mess and it’s his mess. But I don’t think anyone slating him wants him to fail. We all want Stoke to do well, and important to remember this. PS he won’t be sacked even if we lose both I reckon. If it stayed 2-0 yesterday he’d have gone, it was getting nasty in the crowd. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 1, 2023 15:26:54 GMT
you really think some want us to lose , as much as i don’t think Neil is the right man for the job , i’d never want that and it makes my weekend when we win , especially last night in Burslem with all the sad Fail fuckwits 😁🤣 I most certainly do yes That's crackers. Nobody wants us to lose. |
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Alex Neil
Oct 1, 2023 15:29:12 GMT
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Post by thornestein on Oct 1, 2023 15:29:12 GMT
That's crackers. Nobody wants us to lose. i don’t believe it either |
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Alex Neil
Oct 1, 2023 15:34:36 GMT
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Oct 1, 2023 15:34:36 GMT
That's crackers. Nobody wants us to lose. There are so many posters who’ve backed themselves into a corner(which dirtygary mentioned) over Neil getting the boot that I genuinely believe they’d be massively disappointed with the comeback yesterday. If you don’t share that opinion fair enough but that’s my belief on what I read on here |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 1, 2023 15:35:37 GMT
That's crackers. Nobody wants us to lose. There are so many posters who’ve backed themselves into a corner(which dirtygary mentioned) over Neil getting the boot that I genuinely believe they’d be massively disappointed with the comeback yesterday. If you don’t share that opinion fair enough but that’s my belief on what I read on here There's your problem right there - reading too much stuff on here.  |
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Alex Neil
Oct 1, 2023 15:37:25 GMT
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Oct 1, 2023 15:37:25 GMT
There are so many posters who’ve backed themselves into a corner(which dirtygary mentioned) over Neil getting the boot that I genuinely believe they’d be massively disappointed with the comeback yesterday. If you don’t share that opinion fair enough but that’s my belief on what I read on here There's your problem right there - reading too much stuff on here. Its not just on here mate😊 |
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Post by davejohnno1 on Oct 1, 2023 17:01:02 GMT
You really are quite sanctimonious at times. People are right to criticise the manager, he has been useless. Yesterday was a brilliant day and I hope we win again on Tuesday. You might but plenty on here don’t There won’t be a single stoke fan hoping we lose any game irrespective of who the manager is. That is the biggest load of bollocks nonsense out there. |
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Post by davejohnno1 on Oct 1, 2023 17:04:44 GMT
I don’t see anyone disappearing because we fluked a win to be honest. Hopefully turning around a 2 goal deficit will be a turning point and not yet another false dawn. Fluked a win. What a ridiculous comment. Some on here are only happy when we lose. You seem to be one of them! I’ve invested far too much emotion, time, energy and money to ever want us to lose any game at any level. We could as easily conceded a late winner as score one. We never looked secure at the back. Even Neil said we didn’t play well. I was delighted we came out on the right side of it. There are few things better than a late winner having come from 2 goals down. I hope beyond hope it’s a turning point for everyone. |
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Alex Neil
Oct 1, 2023 17:07:14 GMT
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Post by gingerninja on Oct 1, 2023 17:07:14 GMT
Absolutely, I am not sure where the Alex Neil adventure will end up, I am not convinced he's the man for the job, but there is no better feeling after a Stoke win, age doesn't dilute that. Perhaps in the scheme of things it shouldn't be so important, it's only a game as my wife often says, but it is an emotive sport that continues to deliver as Saturday showed.
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Post by satoshi on Oct 1, 2023 17:09:23 GMT
That's crackers. Nobody wants us to lose. There are so many posters who’ve backed themselves into a corner(which dirtygary mentioned) over Neil getting the boot that I genuinely believe they’d be massively disappointed with the comeback yesterday. If you don’t share that opinion fair enough but that’s my belief on what I read on here Nobody wants the club to implode in order to get him sacked. The opposite is true. Lay off the sherry. |
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Post by Scrotnig on Oct 1, 2023 17:10:02 GMT
I do think that some posters have painted themselves into a corner way too soon. Even after yesterday, it’s “yeah, but…” like they are just waiting for the next thing to go wrong so they can get on his case again. A win on Tuesday and it’s a perfectly fine start to the season really. The problem is when you make up your minds so early you’re then too pig headed to just say “fair enough”. Enjoy a win and see where we are after Tuesday. Next Saturday will be a tough one but if we can go into it 6/6 points then you just never know. Try and enjoy it. We aren’t going to get relegated and we might not win all the time, but I’m still confident these players are a fuckload better than anything we’ve had since relegation. I do enjoy a win. I am desperately hoping I am wrong, I will be the first to admit I called it too early, and what’s more, I will be delighted to do so. |
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Post by sticky on Oct 1, 2023 17:11:30 GMT
I think a decent draw, with a good performance, and a non-heavy defeat to Leicester, would be my minimum threshold for getting to the break as manager. The hope then would be that Stevens and a couple of forwards return to kick us on. I loved yesterday’s win but we are still in a mess and it’s his mess. But I don’t think anyone slating him wants him to fail. We all want Stoke to do well, and important to remember this. PS he won’t be sacked even if we lose both I reckon. If it stayed 2-0 yesterday he’d have gone, it was getting nasty in the crowd. Thought that myself tbh, could sense the crowd turning. |
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Post by gaznandi on Oct 1, 2023 17:20:29 GMT
You might but plenty on here don’t There won’t be a single stoke fan hoping we lose any game irrespective of who the manager is. That is the biggest load of bollocks nonsense out there. Matchday thread, page 10 onwards, there's a couple at least |
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Alex Neil
Oct 1, 2023 17:25:57 GMT
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Oct 1, 2023 17:25:57 GMT
You might but plenty on here don’t There won’t be a single stoke fan hoping we lose any game irrespective of who the manager is. That is the biggest load of bollocks nonsense out there. As I replied last time you’re not looking hard enough |
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Alex Neil
Oct 1, 2023 17:29:06 GMT
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Post by peterthornesboots on Oct 1, 2023 17:29:06 GMT
I think a decent draw, with a good performance, v Soton, and a non-heavy defeat to Leicester, would be my minimum threshold for getting to the break as manager. The hope then would be that Stevens and a couple of forwards return to kick us on. I loved yesterday’s win but we are still in a mess and it’s his mess. But I don’t think anyone slating him wants him to fail. We all want Stoke to do well, and important to remember this. PS he won’t be sacked even if we lose both I reckon. The result yesterday will help to buy him some breathing space. After 15 minutes it looked like he was a dead man walking. I agree - a point against Southmapton and a reasonable performance when we visit Leicester will steady the ship a little. As you say, by that point Stevens, Vidigal, and Mmaee will hopefully be back involved which provides AN with more options. I am embracing the turn-a-round in yesterday's game, but we need to back it up on Tuesday of it really is to be a turning point for us. |
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Post by davejohnno1 on Oct 1, 2023 17:30:17 GMT
There won’t be a single stoke fan hoping we lose any game irrespective of who the manager is. That is the biggest load of bollocks nonsense out there. As I replied last time you’re not looking hard enough It’s a bullshit argument designed to quell any form of criticism by a bunch of happy clappers who seem to believe unwavering support of utter shite makes them somehow superior to those who dare to criticise. You don’t need to look hard to see those people. They are always the first to say the moaners ruin the forum whilst never casting eyes in their own direction. |
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Post by stokeson on Oct 1, 2023 17:31:25 GMT
Dont like the man but thats not important. He was a gonner yesterday have no doubt but made the right subs at the right time and that is all I care about. Keep that up Alex and you might turn things around.
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Alex Neil
Oct 1, 2023 17:32:47 GMT
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Oct 1, 2023 17:32:47 GMT
As I replied last time you’re not looking hard enough It’s a bullshit argument designed to quell any form of criticism by a bunch of happy clappers who seem to believe unwavering support of utter shite makes them somehow superior to those who dare to criticise. You don’t need to look hard to see those people. They are always the first to say the moaners ruin the forum whilst never casting eyes in their own direction. Absolute bollocks,it’s there if you care to look |
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Alex Neil
Oct 1, 2023 17:34:16 GMT
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Post by thornestein on Oct 1, 2023 17:34:16 GMT
As I replied last time you’re not looking hard enough It’s a bullshit argument designed to quell any form of criticism by a bunch of happy clappers who seem to believe unwavering support of utter shite makes them somehow superior to those who dare to criticise. You don’t need to look hard to see those people. They are always the first to say the moaners ruin the forum whilst never casting eyes in their own direction. 👏👏👏👏 |
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Post by peterthornesboots on Oct 1, 2023 17:34:41 GMT
If it stayed 2-0 yesterday he’d have gone, it was getting nasty in the crowd. Thought that myself tbh, could sense the crowd turning. Football is a funny game. At 2-2 Travers made a great save and Pearson later went on to make a tremendous block (which was not included in the match highlights). If the game had ended 3-2 to Bristal, I wonder where our thoughts process would have been as a fan base? Regardless, if we back up the win with a good result on Tuesday then it will provide is with a tentative foundation to build from. |
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Alex Neil
Oct 1, 2023 17:36:47 GMT
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Post by thornestein on Oct 1, 2023 17:36:47 GMT
It’s a bullshit argument designed to quell any form of criticism by a bunch of happy clappers who seem to believe unwavering support of utter shite makes them somehow superior to those who dare to criticise. You don’t need to look hard to see those people. They are always the first to say the moaners ruin the forum whilst never casting eyes in their own direction. Absolute bollocks,it’s there if you care to look it isn’t , all i see is ppl with a different opinion to you who care for this club and want the best , no one wants us to lose , what ppl write is normally spur of the moment stuff and not what they actually feel |
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Alex Neil
Oct 1, 2023 17:56:33 GMT
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Post by baconburger on Oct 1, 2023 17:56:33 GMT
I honestly think the fascination with football managers/head coaches is way out of proportion. I don’t believe a club should allow them to set the ethos of the club and after that they become far less divisive figures. At the end of the day they’re just a bunch of blokes in the main trying to spoil a good game.
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Post by dirtygary69 on Oct 1, 2023 19:26:53 GMT
I do think that some posters have painted themselves into a corner way too soon. Even after yesterday, it’s “yeah, but…” like they are just waiting for the next thing to go wrong so they can get on his case again. A win on Tuesday and it’s a perfectly fine start to the season really. The problem is when you make up your minds so early you’re then too pig headed to just say “fair enough”. Enjoy a win and see where we are after Tuesday. Next Saturday will be a tough one but if we can go into it 6/6 points then you just never know. Try and enjoy it. We aren’t going to get relegated and we might not win all the time, but I’m still confident these players are a fuckload better than anything we’ve had since relegation. I do enjoy a win. I am desperately hoping I am wrong, I will be the first to admit I called it too early, and what’s more, I will be delighted to do so. Am not saying I am right and he is the saviour and am probably “floating” myself, but on thinking about it, some stability is what we need. We could be top half come Tuesday which makes any calls for his head look pretty silly. We’ve got injuries and our defence doesn’t look that good but even they are a complete new unit. Yesterday was just one those performances that made me think he’s worth sticking with. You don’t get that if there’s not a buy-in from the squad. We might have got away with one in certain senses, but I don’t see why some have written him off completely already. There could be some serious humble pie being eaten, which I think most of those calling for his head would be happy to eat. I just don’t get why some seem to be quite so entrenched. |
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Post by dirtygary69 on Oct 1, 2023 19:34:01 GMT
As I replied last time you’re not looking hard enough It’s a bullshit argument designed to quell any form of criticism by a bunch of happy clappers who seem to believe unwavering support of utter shite makes them somehow superior to those who dare to criticise. You don’t need to look hard to see those people. They are always the first to say the moaners ruin the forum whilst never casting eyes in their own direction. Seeing comments like “it’s just delaying the inevitable” last night. So, what, we should have just lost so the manager gets sacked? That, to me, doesn’t look like someone enjoying a Stoke victory. You can’t say it doesn’t exist. If the people saying those things genuinely enjoyed the win, they’ve a funny way of showing it. It’s not perfect by any means, but there is the potential there to be a decent side which just needs a bit of backing now, in my opinion. Looking forward to Tuesday against that knob Russell Martin who seems to think he’s some reinvention of John Cruyff. |
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Alex Neil
Oct 1, 2023 19:50:58 GMT
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Post by davejohnno1 on Oct 1, 2023 19:50:58 GMT
It’s a bullshit argument designed to quell any form of criticism by a bunch of happy clappers who seem to believe unwavering support of utter shite makes them somehow superior to those who dare to criticise. You don’t need to look hard to see those people. They are always the first to say the moaners ruin the forum whilst never casting eyes in their own direction. Seeing comments like “it’s just delaying the inevitable” last night. So, what, we should have just lost so the manager gets sacked? That, to me, doesn’t look like someone enjoying a Stoke victory. You can’t say it doesn’t exist. If the people saying those things genuinely enjoyed the win, they’ve a funny way of showing it. It’s not perfect by any means, but there is the potential there to be a decent side which just needs a bit of backing now, in my opinion. Looking forward to Tuesday against that knob Russell Martin who seems to think he’s some reinvention of John Cruyff. I’ll back the team and will also criticise when criticism is deserved. Neil’s record to date is appalling. As bad, if not worse than Nathan jones. I don’t think he can afford another tame home defeat so let’s hope he can manage us to at least a point. |
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Alex Neil
Oct 1, 2023 19:52:42 GMT
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Post by Gary Hackett on Oct 1, 2023 19:52:42 GMT
I do enjoy a win. I am desperately hoping I am wrong, I will be the first to admit I called it too early, and what’s more, I will be delighted to do so. Am not saying I am right and he is the saviour and am probably “floating” myself, but on thinking about it, some stability is what we need. We could be top half come Tuesday which makes any calls for his head look pretty silly. We’ve got injuries and our defence doesn’t look that good but even they are a complete new unit. Yesterday was just one those performances that made me think he’s worth sticking with. You don’t get that if there’s not a buy-in from the squad. We might have got away with one in certain senses, but I don’t see why some have written him off completely already. There could be some serious humble pie being eaten, which I think most of those calling for his head would be happy to eat. I just don’t get why some seem to be quite so entrenched. Fickle |
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Post by a on Oct 1, 2023 20:02:15 GMT
That's crackers. Nobody wants us to lose. Bojan Mackey yesterday: “I’m actually glad about this. I want Neil gone.” Pretty sure it was him calling Neil a cunt too unless im mistaken. |
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Alex Neil
Oct 1, 2023 20:04:37 GMT
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Post by Gary Hackett on Oct 1, 2023 20:04:37 GMT
That's crackers. Nobody wants us to lose. Bojan Mackey yesterday: “I’m actually glad about this. I want Neil gone.” Pretty sure it was him calling Neil a cunt too unless im mistaken. No, it was me that called him a miserable cunt, which he is. |
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Alex Neil
Oct 1, 2023 20:05:47 GMT
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Post by a on Oct 1, 2023 20:05:47 GMT
Bojan Mackey yesterday: “I’m actually glad about this. I want Neil gone.” Pretty sure it was him calling Neil a cunt too unless im mistaken. No, it was me that called him a miserable cunt, which he is. Nah it wasn’t miserable cunt it was just cunt. Maybe it was both of you. |
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Alex Neil
Oct 1, 2023 20:07:05 GMT
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Oct 1, 2023 20:07:05 GMT
That's crackers. Nobody wants us to lose. Bojan Mackey yesterday: “I’m actually glad about this. I want Neil gone.” Pretty sure it was him calling Neil a cunt too unless im mistaken. Thats one mate quickly followed by another one,then the disappearing act of a few who’ll no doubt suddenly appear again when a defeat follows |
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