Alex Neil

[desman2]

He's now beginning to look like someone who's playing Football manager and can't get a win so he's shoving anyone anywhere hoping for a result.

[Staffsoatcake]

Why did he recruit 17 players to get away from the 5 at the back that he had to play last season because of the squad MON left,then plays 5 at the back for most games this season,plus if he intended to play 5 at the back in quite a few games, why did he get rid of Tymon?

[boskampsflaps]

Because he was hoping more defenders would at least help us keep the ball out more, it hasn't worked, but I'd argue that we weren't looking to completely move away from three at the back anyway when you look at the fullbacks we signed.

[roylandstoke]

One possible answer is he’s not very good.

[prudhoesnose]

AN's biggest problem is he thinks he knows more about football than he does. His formations/systems are a confused mess. No wonder the players make mistakes; doubt they know what they're supposed to do.

[vidigal7]

I think they call it a 3421 don't they these days.

That's what Graham Potter likes to play so people shouting for Potter.. er, you sure? Haha

I think he's quickly realised our centre half's can't play successfully as just a pair because putting it nicely they don't eat their weetabix.

We didn't have a pre-season to be fair but you know, sign some no nonsense nails centre backs, it isn't rocket science.

Peter Coates could have just called Tony Pulis and asked him for some names that have caught his eye, he'd have give you a list of them

[Maccasbarmyarmy]

Looking at Alex Neil when did start been a tactic tinker man he played the same formation at Preston an Norwich I don’t get why he thinks 3 at the back is the right way to go baffling

[Deleted]

Sept 25, 2023 8:46:00 GMT vidigal7 said:

I think they call it a 3421 don't they these days.

That's what Graham Potter likes to play so people shouting for Potter.. er, you sure? Haha

I think he's quickly realised our centre half's can't play successfully as just a pair because putting it nicely they don't eat their weetabix.

We didn't have a pre-season to be fair but you know, sign some no nonsense nails centre backs, it isn't rocket science.

Peter Coates could have just called Tony Pulis and asked him for some names that have caught his eye, he'd have give you a list of them

Nothing wrong with any system if you recruit for it.

He's blathered on about wingers for months, recruited a bus load of them and is now trying to hammer a central midfielder in at left wing back, trying to hammer wingers into a central striker or number ten position because he wants to play wing backs without any bloody left sided wing backs.

It's exactly how it ended at Preston with him hammering Alan Browne in at right wing back.

He clearly doesn't learn a thing.

[vidigal7]

Sept 25, 2023 9:08:59 GMT @theonlooker said:

Sept 25, 2023 8:46:00 GMT vidigal7 said:

I think they call it a 3421 don't they these days.

That's what Graham Potter likes to play so people shouting for Potter.. er, you sure? Haha

I think he's quickly realised our centre half's can't play successfully as just a pair because putting it nicely they don't eat their weetabix.

We didn't have a pre-season to be fair but you know, sign some no nonsense nails centre backs, it isn't rocket science.

Peter Coates could have just called Tony Pulis and asked him for some names that have caught his eye, he'd have give you a list of them

Nothing wrong with any system if you recruit for it.

He's blathered on about wingers for months, recruited a bus load of them and is now trying to hammer a central midfielder in at left wing back, trying to hammer wingers into a central striker or number ten position because he wants to play wing backs without any bloody left sided wing backs.

It's exactly how it ended at Preston with him hammering Alan Browne in at right wing back.

He clearly doesn't learn a thing.

He's becoming hard to defend that's for sure.

In my view he needs to stop being a smart arse and confusing matters further with a different formation for a different club, that can't be good as a player if you're trying to settle in at the club, especially 17 of them.

Pick a formation and let the oppo worry about us. Personally I'd go for 4231 and stick with it rain or shine until at least we have a base to adjust from

[Deleted]

Honestly thought I’d be apathetic about yesterday, it was the hallmark performance for apathy, but I’m still absolutely raging. The line up, the daft sub, then the lack of subs, then the 79th minute barrage of subs, all of it. It does feel like the turning point - Neil just needed his Bojan moment and he’d have wrapped the day up perfectly for the sack.

[Gawa]

Has anyone checked on vidigal7 today?

[baconburger]

Sept 25, 2023 9:08:59 GMT @theonlooker said:

Sept 25, 2023 8:46:00 GMT vidigal7 said:

I think they call it a 3421 don't they these days.

That's what Graham Potter likes to play so people shouting for Potter.. er, you sure? Haha

I think he's quickly realised our centre half's can't play successfully as just a pair because putting it nicely they don't eat their weetabix.

We didn't have a pre-season to be fair but you know, sign some no nonsense nails centre backs, it isn't rocket science.

Peter Coates could have just called Tony Pulis and asked him for some names that have caught his eye, he'd have give you a list of them

Nothing wrong with any system if you recruit for it.

He's blathered on about wingers for months, recruited a bus load of them and is now trying to hammer a central midfielder in at left wing back, trying to hammer wingers into a central striker or number ten position because he wants to play wing backs without any bloody left sided wing backs.

It's exactly how it ended at Preston with him hammering Alan Browne in at right wing back.

He clearly doesn't learn a thing.

Is that the same Alan Browne as all successive Preston manager played as RWB and if memory serves me correct was their player of the season a season or two ago in the position. All them managers and all them people watching and voting must be thick as shit.

[prestwichpotter]

Sept 25, 2023 9:49:00 GMT baconburger said:

Sept 25, 2023 9:08:59 GMT @theonlooker said:

Nothing wrong with any system if you recruit for it.

He's blathered on about wingers for months, recruited a bus load of them and is now trying to hammer a central midfielder in at left wing back, trying to hammer wingers into a central striker or number ten position because he wants to play wing backs without any bloody left sided wing backs.

It's exactly how it ended at Preston with him hammering Alan Browne in at right wing back.

He clearly doesn't learn a thing.

Is that the same Alan Browne as all successive Preston manager played as RWB and if memory serves me correct was their player of the season a season or two ago in the position. All them managers and all them people watching and voting must be thick as shit.

According to transfermarkt in nearly 400 games Browne has filled in at RWB/RB on 16 occasions..........

[philb]

Sept 25, 2023 8:44:47 GMT prudhoesnose said:

AN's biggest problem is he thinks he knows more about football than he does. His formations/systems are a confused mess. No wonder the players make mistakes; doubt they know what they're supposed to do.

Reminds me of the last few managers we’ve had.

[baconburger]

Sept 25, 2023 9:57:49 GMT prestwichpotter said:

Sept 25, 2023 9:49:00 GMT baconburger said:

Is that the same Alan Browne as all successive Preston manager played as RWB and if memory serves me correct was their player of the season a season or two ago in the position. All them managers and all them people watching and voting must be thick as shit.

According to transfermarkt in nearly 400 games Browne has filled in at RWB/RB on 16 occasions..........

Maybe either transfermarket or I are wrong it seemed very much to me like it had become his regular position but there again I’m not that knowledgeable about Preston. He seemed to be in that position most times I saw them.

[philb]

Sept 25, 2023 9:12:16 GMT vidigal7 said:

Sept 25, 2023 9:08:59 GMT @theonlooker said:

Nothing wrong with any system if you recruit for it.

He's blathered on about wingers for months, recruited a bus load of them and is now trying to hammer a central midfielder in at left wing back, trying to hammer wingers into a central striker or number ten position because he wants to play wing backs without any bloody left sided wing backs.

It's exactly how it ended at Preston with him hammering Alan Browne in at right wing back.

He clearly doesn't learn a thing.

He's becoming hard to defend that's for sure.

In my view he needs to stop being a smart arse and confusing matters further with a different formation for a different club, that can't be good as a player if you're trying to settle in at the club, especially 17 of them.

Pick a formation and let the oppo worry about us. Personally I'd go for 4231 and stick with it rain or shine until at least we have a base to adjust from

The picking formations to suit teams in this league is batshit crazy. Who the hell does he think he and the players are that he and them are that good that they can just change tactically like that game to game??? They’re Championship players and he’s a Championship Manager not Pep Guardiola!!!
Stick to a formula that works with the players he’s got, it’s not rocket science!
What is it with managers and players that come to this club with good pedigree and suddenly turn to absolute dogshit? Must be something in the water at Clayton Wood 🤷‍♂️

[vidigal7]

Sept 25, 2023 10:06:10 GMT philb said:

Sept 25, 2023 9:12:16 GMT vidigal7 said:

He's becoming hard to defend that's for sure.

In my view he needs to stop being a smart arse and confusing matters further with a different formation for a different club, that can't be good as a player if you're trying to settle in at the club, especially 17 of them.

Pick a formation and let the oppo worry about us. Personally I'd go for 4231 and stick with it rain or shine until at least we have a base to adjust from

The picking formations to suit teams in this league is batshit crazy. Who the hell does he think he and the players are that he and them are that good that they can just change tactically like that game to game??? They’re Championship players and he’s a Championship Manager not Pep Guardiola!!!
Stick to a formula that works with the players he’s got, it’s not rocket science!
What is it with managers and players that come to this club with good pedigree and suddenly turn to absolute dogshit? Must be something in the water at Clayton Wood 🤷‍♂️

I think he's just got a bit carried away, perhaps a bit too enthusiastic. Pick & stick.

We're not playing Man City either, if you've had a good window let them clubs worry about us, play to our strengths not set up to combat theirs. Sends the message of us being inadequate/inferior

[vidigal7]

Sept 25, 2023 9:45:10 GMT Gawa said:

Has anyone checked on vidigal7 today?

You, I never knew you cared haha

[Gawa]

Sept 25, 2023 10:41:01 GMT vidigal7 said:

Sept 25, 2023 9:45:10 GMT Gawa said:

Has anyone checked on vidigal7 today?

You, I never knew you cared haha

You're a good egg and quite funny too even if we do disagree  

You take the banter well mate. I hope Alex turns this around with a huge win streak and it will be you checking in on me

[victoria]

An issue for me. Players who play on a Saturday get sunday and monday off.
Tuesday/ Wednesday matches means Wednesday or Thursday off for players to recuperate after walking around the pitch for 90 minutes.
Leaves Friday morning for whole team training.
Which is why they walk around during Saturday game. They need recuperation time after Friday morning training.
The week is too part time.

[wakefieldstokie]

Nottingham Forrest had 4 pts after 9 games in their promotion season to the prem.

Obviously dosent mean we will suddenly go on an amazing run of form, but it does help give a little perspective.

[thornestein]

Sept 25, 2023 11:53:51 GMT wakefieldstokie said:

Nottingham Forrest had 4 pts after 9 games in their promotion season to the prem.

Obviously dosent mean we will suddenly go on an amazing run of form, but it does help give a little perspective.

they’re replaced their manager to turn things around , let’s hope we do

[peterthornesboots]

Sept 25, 2023 8:42:00 GMT boskampsflaps said:

Because he was hoping more defenders would at least help us keep the ball out more, it hasn't worked, but I'd argue that we weren't looking to completely move away from three at the back anyway when you look at the fullbacks we signed.

Whenever we get a couple of poor results AN seems to revert to a back five. I assume that he feels like we are more likely to find out a result using that formation?

He has built a squad for 4-3-3. He needs to stick with that, stop worrying about the opposition so much, and start thinking about he can get the most out of our players.

[boskampsflaps]

Sept 25, 2023 13:13:34 GMT peterthornesboots said:

Sept 25, 2023 8:42:00 GMT boskampsflaps said:

Because he was hoping more defenders would at least help us keep the ball out more, it hasn't worked, but I'd argue that we weren't looking to completely move away from three at the back anyway when you look at the fullbacks we signed.

Whenever we get a couple of poor results AN seems to revert to a back five. I assume that he feels like we are more likely to find out a result using that formation?

He has built a squad for 4-3-3. He needs to stick with that, stop worrying about the opposition so much, and start thinking about he can get the most out of our players.

He's built a squad that can play a few different ways, he just happens to prefer 4-3-3, it could just as easily be set up as a 4-2-3-1, I'd even argue that the squad lends itself better to that set up, he wasn't talking about the squad being flexible to then stick rigidly to one formation.

Edit, I'm not particularly trying to defend him but people complaining about different systems seem to have missed most of his interviews when talking about building the squad.

[dirtclod]

Yes, stay on the front foot, 4-3-3 or similar and get these guys in shape so they can do 90 minutes+ of it.

To hell with the rest of the league, make them play us, not the other way around.

Keep hearing this whiny, scratchy voice saying "The only thing we have to fear....is fear itself!".
Guess the voices in my head are on a history-binge.

[kidcrewbob]

He’s an idiot chancer……

[pavel]

He's not going to change is he, he's the boss and main man, everything goes through him. He doesn't appear to take much notice of those around him, especially at matches. I don't mind stubborn people but stupid stubborn people are a different kettle of fish, Neil appears to be one of the later. Is it he just can't make his mind up or is it he so sure of himself he's out to prove a point, he'd do well to look at his record here and then give his head a wobble. If he doesn't change he can't last.

[Maccasbarmyarmy]

Sept 25, 2023 13:52:31 GMT pavel said:

He's not going to change is he, he's the boss and main man, everything goes through him. He doesn't appear to take much notice of those around him, especially at matches. I don't mind stubborn people but stupid stubborn people are a different kettle of fish, Neil appears to be one of the later. Is it he just can't make his mind up or is it he so sure of himself he's out to prove a point, he'd do well to look at his record here and then give his head a wobble. If he doesn't change he can't last.

He has to change it or he’s gone simple as that

[stiggerstackle]

Sept 25, 2023 13:52:31 GMT pavel said:

He's not going to change is he, he's the boss and main man, everything goes through him. He doesn't appear to take much notice of those around him, especially at matches. I don't mind stubborn people but stupid stubborn people are a different kettle of fish, Neil appears to be one of the later. Is it he just can't make his mind up or is it he so sure of himself he's out to prove a point, he'd do well to look at his record here and then give his head a wobble. If he doesn't change he can't last.

I agree - I think he’s bloody-minded enough to stick with the wingback system until it flukes a result and he can turn around and say ‘there - told you so’,

He’s like my fucking 8 year old on fifa / playing fucking stupid formations and even Bonham up front, because he thinks he’s a better striker than ‘keeper (might be true).

AN seems to display the same arrogant belligerence as an incredibly stubborn 8 yr old 🤣

[Maccasbarmyarmy]

He will change it he has for the sake of his job he will know back 3 isn’t the way to go