Alex Neil

[benjaminbiscuit]

I can’t think of a manger anywhere that has turned a situation like this around teams have risen like Lazarus but only after management  change  like forest with cooper or Sunderland with keane but they had better squads rosrnoir and warnock saved poor squads last season and that’s what we need a man yo get us to 50 points that’s all that counts now .

[jontimmis]

Sept 24, 2023 18:12:52 GMT benjaminbiscuit said:

I can’t think of a manger anywhere that has turned a situation like this around teams have risen like Lazarus but only after management  change  like forest with cooper or Sunderland with keane but they had better squads rosrnoir and warnock saved poor squads last season and that’s what we need a man yo get us to 50 points that’s all that counts now .

This is a fair point and that has to go through those in the power seats to think on that.

[thornestein]

Sept 24, 2023 16:26:08 GMT mrnovember said:

Sept 24, 2023 16:23:23 GMT march4 said:

5 players from the starting 11 missing then two key players injured within the first 30 minutes and all this against the best team in the league on recent form.

But let’s make no allowance and over react.

AN has to be our manager for at least 5 years. We have invested too much in him for it to be otherwise.

Someone's on the wind up.

just March been March , his medication will kick in then all is well

[thornestein]

Sept 24, 2023 16:46:23 GMT FullerMagic said:

Sept 24, 2023 16:43:21 GMT silsdenstokie said:

Hassenhuttl could be an interesting one

The fact hes worked over here shouldnt make him alien to the board

Yeah, I thought that, although it didn't end well at Soton.

And Scott '2 promotions from the Championship' Parker would bring a strong cardigan selection.

i love a nice cardigan tbh

[thornestein]

Sept 24, 2023 17:12:13 GMT boskampsflaps said:

Sept 24, 2023 16:29:21 GMT mickstupp said:

He won’t be the manager for another 5 weeks. He’s toast.

Can't see it, he's not here for the short term and even though he was here last season I think they'll still see it as short term given we've only played 8 games this season.

that’s because you like him , most of us don’t , he’s a goner , it’s just after which of the next 5 games

[y_oh_y_delilah]

Sept 24, 2023 18:12:52 GMT benjaminbiscuit said:

I can’t think of a manger anywhere that has turned a situation like this around teams have risen like Lazarus but only after management  change  like forest with cooper or Sunderland with keane but they had better squads rosrnoir and warnock saved poor squads last season and that’s what we need a man yo get us to 50 points that’s all that counts now .

Where on earth do you think we are going to get another 43 points from?
That’s a hell of a lot of points when a team is in such disarray.
It implies c12 wins and a scattering of draws. Just can’t see it happening I’m afraid.

[thornestein]

Sept 24, 2023 17:14:56 GMT vidigal7 said:

Incredibly optimistic looking at todays offering but if Neil gives his head a wobble and plays our best players in their best positions it could just as much be a turning point.

Haksabanovic one side and vidigal the other is surely enough to threaten most teams in this division

with the right manager in charge yes , but with clueless Neil we’re doomed , why he will be gone in the next few weeks

[FullerMagic]

[benjaminbiscuit]

Sept 24, 2023 18:20:11 GMT y_oh_y_delilah said:

Sept 24, 2023 18:12:52 GMT benjaminbiscuit said:

I can’t think of a manger anywhere that has turned a situation like this around teams have risen like Lazarus but only after management  change  like forest with cooper or Sunderland with keane but they had better squads rosrnoir and warnock saved poor squads last season and that’s what we need a man yo get us to 50 points that’s all that counts now .

Where on earth do you think we are going to get another 43 points from?
That’s a hell of a lot of points when a team is in such disarray.
It implies c12 wins and a scattering of draws. Just can’t see it happening I’m afraid.

Exactly why our only option is to try and change the manager as the players are a fixed resource until Jan at the earliest 

[neddy]

It’s interesting isn’t it that JC thought he was going for a proven winner manager but on close scrutiny he really hasn’t done anything?

[lawrieleslie]

Sept 24, 2023 17:32:55 GMT jokker said:

Sept 24, 2023 16:52:11 GMT swinny said:

The sentinel interview with him being asked about supporters is quite dismissive and completely devoid of scope. Saying fans are of modern times and everything's all about promotion when we win a game or relegation if we lose.

Saying that may be the only thing he did right today. You just go back to the last 30 gqames we won and look at the threads - on every occasion there's some talking about promotion on the oatcake mb, and not just one or two.

If he’s spending all his time trawling the oatcake for after-game comments then no wonder players aren’t being coached.🤣

[silsdenstokie]

Sept 24, 2023 18:12:52 GMT benjaminbiscuit said:

I can’t think of a manger anywhere that has turned a situation like this around teams have risen like Lazarus but only after management  change  like forest with cooper or Sunderland with keane but they had better squads rosrnoir and warnock saved poor squads last season and that’s what we need a man yo get us to 50 points that’s all that counts now .

As short term as it may be Id take Warnock coming in now

Never thought Id be saying that

[Ygor]

I've been away from this board for quite some time but kept a watchful eye. I really have had enough. The problem to me has always been the Coates. They have the money but not the brains to make a club successful. I could have told you that Alex Neil was not the man. How can people with so much money fail to appoint a manager and support staff that simply can't hack it? My view is they got lucky with Pulis (2nd time around), and short lived success with Hughes, before descending into complete chaos with some of the most mindless appointments and sackings only an idiot would consider. We're going nowhere whilst these idiots are in charge. I wish they'd sell up and fuck off. There. I've gone and said it.

[Biblical]

I bet he’s losing some sleep looking at the upcoming fixtures after serving up that dross today.

[superpotter]

I think he’s full of shit

[benjaminbiscuit]

Sept 24, 2023 19:13:45 GMT Biblical said:

I bet he’s losing some sleep looking at the upcoming fixtures after serving up that dross today.

Why he came here because of  the security , he  doubled his salary and knew the owners were good for the money if he failed no risk no brainer , he’s two years to go on serious money . It was a mind boggling uninspiring , appointment and that’s the huge concern there are three people who shouldn’t be involved in the search and you have to fear all three will be as Martin and Jared will throw Neil canning and co under the bus when the moment comes 

[st3mark]

Sept 24, 2023 18:44:51 GMT silsdenstokie said:

Sept 24, 2023 18:12:52 GMT benjaminbiscuit said:

I can’t think of a manger anywhere that has turned a situation like this around teams have risen like Lazarus but only after management  change  like forest with cooper or Sunderland with keane but they had better squads rosrnoir and warnock saved poor squads last season and that’s what we need a man yo get us to 50 points that’s all that counts now .

As short term as it may be Id take Warnock coming in now

Never thought Id be saying that

He hates us. I don't think he'd come.

[FullerMagic]

As a snapshot, Trousers' twitter poll is about 60-40 in favour of the axe.

Which is a lot closer than I was expecting.

[proudstokie]

Sept 24, 2023 18:25:43 GMT FullerMagic said:

Biggest thing for me is that I am more than happy to offer patience if I can see a coherent plan, we have some good players but I’m not sure what Neil’s intention is for them. What I saw today was a mess. Three potential wing backs on the bench in Tchamadeu, Lleris and Hoover, yet on the the left we had Wilmot filling the gaps left by Johnson, followed by Laurent filling the gaps left by Wilmot. As a result our midfield was wide open which left the defence looking like sitting ducks. With no midfield our play was built from the back which didn’t offer the support for Haks, Vidigal and Wesley. There was a moment when McNally broke into their box and he genuinely looked like he’d accidentally stepped into the women’s toilets and didn’t know what to do with himself. Neil keeps saying his team need to gel but he’s not helping by overcomplicating his system. For God’s sake get a solid back four and midfield three and allow our talented attacking players the chance to get us a foothold in the game. It’s really not that hard!!!

[scfcno1fan]

Sept 24, 2023 19:41:58 GMT proudstokie said:

Sept 24, 2023 18:25:43 GMT FullerMagic said:

Biggest thing for me is that I am more than happy to offer patience if I can see a coherent plan, we have some good players but I’m not sure what Neil’s intention is for them. What I saw today was a mess. Three potential wing backs on the bench in Tchamadeu, Lleris and Hoover, yet on the the left we had Wilmot filling the gaps left by Johnson, followed by Laurent filling the gaps left by Wilmot. As a result our midfield was wide open which left the defence looking like sitting ducks. With no midfield our play was built from the back which didn’t offer the support for Haks, Vidigal and Wesley. There was a moment when McNally broke into their box and he genuinely looked like he’d accidentally stepped into the women’s toilets and didn’t know what to do with himself. Neil keeps saying his team need to gel but he’s not helping by overcomplicating his system. For God’s sake get a solid back four and midfield three and allow our talented attacking players the chance to get us a foothold in the game. It’s really not that hard!!!

I actually did walk into the women’s toilet by accident today….

[proudstokie]

Sept 24, 2023 19:45:08 GMT scfcno1fan said:

Sept 24, 2023 19:41:58 GMT proudstokie said:

Biggest thing for me is that I am more than happy to offer patience if I can see a coherent plan, we have some good players but I’m not sure what Neil’s intention is for them. What I saw today was a mess. Three potential wing backs on the bench in Tchamadeu, Lleris and Hoover, yet on the the left we had Wilmot filling the gaps left by Johnson, followed by Laurent filling the gaps left by Wilmot. As a result our midfield was wide open which left the defence looking like sitting ducks. With no midfield our play was built from the back which didn’t offer the support for Haks, Vidigal and Wesley. There was a moment when McNally broke into their box and he genuinely looked like he’d accidentally stepped into the women’s toilets and didn’t know what to do with himself. Neil keeps saying his team need to gel but he’s not helping by overcomplicating his system. For God’s sake get a solid back four and midfield three and allow our talented attacking players the chance to get us a foothold in the game. It’s really not that hard!!!

I actually did walk into the women’s toilet by accident today….

I bet you looked more composed than McNally 😂

[emretezzy]

Sept 24, 2023 17:40:53 GMT PotteringThrough said:

Still struggling to understand the selling Tymon logic.

Doesn’t fit in with the 4-3-3 system we seemed intent on playing. Sells him. Immediately switches to 5-3-2 / 5-4-1 (I don’t know what we’re actually playing right now just that it’s 5 at the back) where he’s arguably our best player for that position.

It was a fine decision if you never wanted play 3-5-2 which we shouldn't.

Stevens is 32 still plays internationals and to have him for 46 games plus internationals as the only wing back is a joke.

To sign 18 players and end up with a number 10 there in October is unforgivable.

[LGH87]

When the tide turns this much in terms of supporter unrest, it never turns around.

He’ll be gone before the clocks go back.

Just pray to god Wilder goes back Sheff before Neil goes.

Fuck knows what dour British manager they turn to next unless Jared has some serious input and has a manager up his sleeve I don’t hold my breath it will be anyone inspiring.

Probably Dean Smith.

[benjaminbiscuit]

Sept 24, 2023 19:47:30 GMT emretezzy said:

Sept 24, 2023 17:40:53 GMT PotteringThrough said:

Still struggling to understand the selling Tymon logic.

Doesn’t fit in with the 4-3-3 system we seemed intent on playing. Sells him. Immediately switches to 5-3-2 / 5-4-1 (I don’t know what we’re actually playing right now just that it’s 5 at the back) where he’s arguably our best player for that position.

It was a fine decision if you never wanted play 3-5-2 which we shouldn't.

Stevens is 32 still plays internationals and to have him for 46 games plus internationals as the only wing back is a joke.

To sign 18 players and end up with a number 10 there in October is unforgivable.

Selling brown and Tymon was an abject disaster because of the failure to replace either , Martins smug that enabled us to buy other players  wants  shoving where the sun don’t shine with one of his pillars where it might act as a cultural change agent 

[Championship Potter]

I’d keep him on the basis that surely even he must realise how daft some of his team selections have been. 5 at the back is fine would be fine if we’d kept Tymon and recruited some proper centre backs rather than two ex-Coventry players (one of whom they released). We have looked passable when we’ve played players in their actual positions, so you’d hope we’d get some decent results if we just reverted to a back four and a Pearson-Burger-Johnson midfield, assuming he hasn’t destroyed the confidence of all the new players already.

[peterthornesboots]

Sept 24, 2023 16:23:23 GMT march4 said:

5 players from the starting 11 missing then two key players injured within the first 30 minutes and all this against the best team in the league on recent form.

But let’s make no allowance and over react.

AN has to be our manager for at least 5 years. We have invested too much in him for it to be otherwise.

Unfortunately AN will be lucky to still be manager in 5 games time, never mind five years.

There are four tough games coming up. He is going to have to pull a couple of wins from somewhere.

If we are in the bottom three by the international break then it is difficult to see how he could justifiably avoid the sack.

[WorkingclassHero]

Death knell sounded

[Billy the kid]

Sept 24, 2023 19:53:34 GMT LGH87 said:

When the tide turns this much in terms of supporter unrest, it never turns around.

He’ll be gone before the clocks go back.

Just pray to god Wilder goes back Sheff before Neil goes.

Fuck knows what dour British manager they turn to next unless Jared has some serious input and has a manager up his sleeve I don’t hold my breath it will be anyone inspiring.

Probably Dean Smith.

Alex mcleash

[ibby]

Get him gone.

[wagsastokie]

Has he gone yet 🪓