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Post by jesusmcmuffin on Sept 25, 2023 14:15:20 GMT
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Alex Neil
Sept 25, 2023 14:33:53 GMT
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Post by boskampsflaps on Sept 25, 2023 14:33:53 GMT
He's not going to change is he, he's the boss and main man, everything goes through him. He doesn't appear to take much notice of those around him, especially at matches. I don't mind stubborn people but stupid stubborn people are a different kettle of fish, Neil appears to be one of the later. Is it he just can't make his mind up or is it he so sure of himself he's out to prove a point, he'd do well to look at his record here and then give his head a wobble. If he doesn't change he can't last. Who does he ignore at matches? |
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Post by onepara on Sept 25, 2023 14:38:35 GMT
Hulls Manager said that he plays the same formation, whether home or away. That way, the players get to know what's required, & grow in confidence with the system. He doesn't concern himself with the other teams formation. It's that easy!
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Post by pavel on Sept 25, 2023 14:39:59 GMT
He's not going to change is he, he's the boss and main man, everything goes through him. He doesn't appear to take much notice of those around him, especially at matches. I don't mind stubborn people but stupid stubborn people are a different kettle of fish, Neil appears to be one of the later. Is it he just can't make his mind up or is it he so sure of himself he's out to prove a point, he'd do well to look at his record here and then give his head a wobble. If he doesn't change he can't last. Who does he ignore at matches? I said he doesn't appear to make much notice of, ignore is very different. It's something I've noticed, he does not appear to listen to his assistant much or ask for his views, a couple of the pundits said it as well during the last match. Whether it's true or not it's hard to say, but it perhaps fits a bit with his personality. |
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Post by dirtclod on Sept 25, 2023 14:43:52 GMT
Yeah I never got this home vs. away stuff. It's still a football pitch.
As a player, I'd find this stuff confusing - pick a formation and use January to fill in gaps, but stick with a formation regardless of where the match is played.
This year, a team like Leicester will likely destroy us anyway but I don't care - at least go AT them for 90 and see what happens! You might catch them taking us for granted.
Seem to recall us doing that at Anfield a few years back and pissing off a lot of bookies.
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Post by boskampsflaps on Sept 25, 2023 14:50:52 GMT
Who does he ignore at matches? I said he doesn't appear to make much notice of, ignore is very different. It's something I've noticed, he does not appear to listen to his assistant much or ask for his views, a couple of the pundits said it as well during the last match. Whether it's true or not it's hard to say, but it perhaps fits a bit with his personality. He talks plenty to his assistant, if you know what they say to each other that shows he takes little notice I'd be interested to hear it... Otherwise you don't have a clue whether he takes notice or not and are just adding more nonsense to the pile, there's plenty to be unhappy about atm but let's not start making stuff up eh, it doesn't help. |
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Alex Neil
Sept 25, 2023 14:59:23 GMT
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Post by peterthornesboots on Sept 25, 2023 14:59:23 GMT
Whenever we get a couple of poor results AN seems to revert to a back five. I assume that he feels like we are more likely to find out a result using that formation? He has built a squad for 4-3-3. He needs to stick with that, stop worrying about the opposition so much, and start thinking about he can get the most out of our players. He's built a squad that can play a few different ways, he just happens to prefer 4-3-3, it could just as easily be set up as a 4-2-3-1, I'd even argue that the squad lends itself better to that set up, he wasn't talking about the squad being flexible to then stick rigidly to one formation. Edit, I'm not particularly trying to defend him but people complaining about different systems seem to have missed most of his interviews when talking about building the squad. I have no issue with him building a squad that is capable of fitting into different systems. My issue is that we are constantly changing the system we play depending on our opposition. I think AN focus' too much on trying to nullify our opponents rather than building our own playing style and identity. |
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Post by pavel on Sept 25, 2023 15:05:49 GMT
I said he doesn't appear to make much notice of, ignore is very different. It's something I've noticed, he does not appear to listen to his assistant much or ask for his views, a couple of the pundits said it as well during the last match. Whether it's true or not it's hard to say, but it perhaps fits a bit with his personality. He talks plenty to his assistant, if you know what they say to each other that shows he takes little notice I'd be interested to hear it... Otherwise you don't have a clue whether he takes notice or not and are just adding more nonsense to the pile, there's plenty to be unhappy about atm but let's not start making stuff up eh, it doesn't help. I'm not making stuff up, as I said a couple of the pundits said it as well. I chose my words very carefully, "appears". It's not a stick to beat him with, plenty of managers keep their thoughts to themselves and hardly converse with their back up team, it can be a strength or a weakness, it was just an observation, nothing more. "appears to take much not notice of those around him" - means I couldn't see much conversation with his assistant that particular game, I didn't say he didn't take their views into consideration when they did speak, how would I know that! I think you're reading too much in to a simple observation I've made on one particular match. |
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Post by thornestein on Sept 25, 2023 15:06:24 GMT
He's built a squad that can play a few different ways, he just happens to prefer 4-3-3, it could just as easily be set up as a 4-2-3-1, I'd even argue that the squad lends itself better to that set up, he wasn't talking about the squad being flexible to then stick rigidly to one formation. Edit, I'm not particularly trying to defend him but people complaining about different systems seem to have missed most of his interviews when talking about building the squad. I have no issue with him building a squad that is capable of fitting into different systems. My issue is that we are constantly changing the system we play depending on our opposition. I think AN focus' too much on trying to nullify our opponents rather than building our own playing style and identity. exactly this , let’s play a system that’s suits our players and stick to it , let the opponents worry instead of us |
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Alex Neil
Sept 25, 2023 16:23:43 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Sept 25, 2023 16:23:43 GMT
I can totally understand, stoke fans wanting him gone .
I am surprised by the heavy focus on his match day tactics.
Half his job is to be tactically astute and come up with a good game plan.
The other half is to have the players fully motivated and ruthlessly out to do literally anything, to get the result over the line.
Brian Clough once gave a one sentence team talk before a European cup final...' I don't care how you win , just win ' . That was it , but that's all you need when you have the players respect.
Sure his tactics are dubious and his obsession with 5 at the back nonsensical.
But the other half of his job... motivation...he is off the scale bad .
Says a lot when he needs to bring on an unfit ( half fit ? ) vidigal to show the other ten players how it should be done.
Presumably to try and embarrass them into getting their finger out , when they have no intention of getting stuck in for the manager? Or even their own self worth?
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Alex Neil
Sept 26, 2023 22:15:38 GMT
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Post by glpotter on Sept 26, 2023 22:15:38 GMT
Days surely numbered
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Post by Gary Hackett on Sept 26, 2023 22:24:50 GMT
Unless you're a club with John Coates in charge. |
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Post by jwhpotter on Sept 27, 2023 20:12:25 GMT
Surely if we lose at Bristol that has to be game over for Neil
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Post by loosestools on Sept 27, 2023 20:15:51 GMT
I hope TP was invited to this match.
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Post by Gary Hackett on Sept 27, 2023 20:16:06 GMT
Surely if we lose at Bristol that has to be game over for Neil Not a chance, it'll be November before it even gets thought about. |
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Sept 27, 2023 20:18:47 GMT
I wonder if he's thinking "Christ, I've bought some shit, here".
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Alex Neil
Sept 27, 2023 20:19:12 GMT
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Post by questionable on Sept 27, 2023 20:19:12 GMT
Surely if we lose at Bristol that has to be game over for Neil Not a chance, it'll be November before it even gets thought about. There’s one thing nailed on the club won’t have the foresight to even consider talking to anyone yet. |
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Post by questionable on Sept 27, 2023 20:19:27 GMT
Surely if we lose at Bristol that has to be game over for Neil Not a chance, it'll be November before it even gets thought about. There’s one thing nailed on the club won’t have the foresight to even consider talking to anyone yet. |
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Post by bornscfcdiescfc on Sept 27, 2023 20:20:05 GMT
There is a capable team here...its just the manager doesn`t know and he is again a boss who has no plan B.
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Post by Gary Hackett on Sept 27, 2023 20:21:29 GMT
I wonder if he's thinking "Christ, I've bought some shit, here". I'd say that's a very good possibility. It's what happens when you rely on someone who uses stats and graphs to decide if a player is good or not. |
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Post by jesusmcmuffin on Sept 27, 2023 20:22:17 GMT
I wonder if he's thinking "Christ, I've bought some shit, here". It's a bit like when you've had a night out and look at your Amazon basket the next day. |
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Post by glpotter on Sept 27, 2023 20:24:30 GMT
I wonder if he's thinking "Christ, I've bought some shit, here". It's a bit like when you've had a night out and look at your Amazon basket the next day. Good squad Shit manager |
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Post by boskampsflaps on Sept 27, 2023 20:25:00 GMT
I hope TP was invited to this match. Maybe he was but he's done, if we were to hire him again it would be the biggest mistake the owners have made since relegation. |
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Alex Neil
Sept 27, 2023 20:25:38 GMT
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Post by jesusmcmuffin on Sept 27, 2023 20:25:38 GMT
It's a bit like when you've had a night out and look at your Amazon basket the next day. Good squad Shit manager Don't disagree with that. When the inevitable happens, maybe we can look forward a bit |
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Post by Clayton Wood on Sept 27, 2023 20:26:06 GMT
I wonder if he's thinking "Christ, I've bought some shit, here". No he's thinking Tricky Ricky's bought some shit here. |
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Post by bornscfcdiescfc on Sept 27, 2023 20:26:17 GMT
I wonder if he's thinking "Christ, I've bought some shit, here". It's a bit like when you've had a night out and look at your Amazon basket the next day. Well if he does he should be sacked asap |
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Alex Neil
Sept 27, 2023 20:27:08 GMT
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Post by jesusmcmuffin on Sept 27, 2023 20:27:08 GMT
I hope TP was invited to this match. Maybe he was but he's done, if we were to hire him again it would be the biggest mistake the owners have made since relegation. Simply won't happen but be interesting enough |
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Post by boskampsflaps on Sept 27, 2023 20:27:47 GMT
Maybe he was but he's done, if we were to hire him again it would be the biggest mistake the owners have made since relegation. Simply won't happen but be interesting enough About as interesting as watching paint dry  |
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Post by jesusmcmuffin on Sept 27, 2023 20:28:43 GMT
I wonder if he's thinking "Christ, I've bought some shit, here". No he's thinking Tricky Ricky's bought some shit here. I bet he's thinking...if I throw 8 random subs on, will it work? |
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Post by NassauDave on Sept 27, 2023 20:30:45 GMT
Surely if we lose at Bristol that has to be game over for Neil Fingers crossed. |
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