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Post by leegthestokie90 on Sept 21, 2023 0:07:41 GMT
Tried to give Neil a chance like every manager but wat style play does he play his subs are a joke to late every game is half time talks god knows wat he says but the opposition always seem to have 2 3 chances in first 10 mins of 2nd half and neglected the main areas of the window a a proven striker target man and a centre back to partner mcnally
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Sept 21, 2023 0:59:38 GMT
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Post by PotterLog on Sept 21, 2023 0:59:38 GMT
I'm starting to wonder if I like him, because he's not Michael O'Neill, who I liked because he wasn't Nathan Jones? I believe this is a massive issue with our fanbase. The standards are so low. And what you’ve said imo is why. There’s just relief that it’s not the previous fuckwit despite it being another fuckwit. Also known as the Butland effect where average-to-wank goalkeepers are concerned. To be fair MON had a good deal of non-fuckwitness about him for a decent period, he’s the only manager we’ve had since Les that has resembled anything remotely competent.
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Post by Biblical on Sept 21, 2023 5:57:59 GMT
We played well enough to be out of sight in that game, let down by poor finishing and poor defending from set pieces. We’re not a million miles away really, few tweaks here and there and big players in Vidigal and Mmaee to return from injury. Some people just need to calm down a bit. We've been saying this for 5 years. We're a complete shit show We’re really not though. The only time we were soundly beaten by is Preston who are currently at the top of the table having won 6 and drawn 1 of their opening games. They’ve started well but I’ll guarantee you they won’t be in the top 6 come the end of the season. It was disappointing that we couldn’t win the game last night, but the players largely played the in the game in right manner, on the front foot and trying to win the game. Rather than looking hopelessly adrift and completely clueless it’s just a more the case of making some tweaks. There’s no need for the all or nothing, doom mongering posts I’m constantly reading on this message board.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Sept 21, 2023 5:58:24 GMT
I believe this is a massive issue with our fanbase. The standards are so low. And what you’ve said imo is why. There’s just relief that it’s not the previous fuckwit despite it being another fuckwit. Also known as the Butland effect where average-to-wank goalkeepers are concerned. To be fair MON had a good deal of non-fuckwitness about him for a decent period, he’s the only manager we’ve had since Les that has resembled anything remotely competent. For a glorious 6 month spell indeed. But I would have sacked him after his first full season here. There was enough to show me that ultimately he wasn’t right for the job.
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Post by delilahwhy on Sept 21, 2023 6:35:35 GMT
Neil has promotions on his CV, including one in this league. He also did a decent job at Preston and started well at Sunderland too, before coming here. There's enough there to satisfy me he is a good manager and more than capable of making a success of his time at the club.
I'll make a fairer judgement of where we are in January, once things have had time to settle down and the squad has starred to gel and integrate.
Over the short space of this season there's been some very good and some very bad, and to some extent you'd expect inconsistency given the complete overhaul we've undertaken.
I think top half is the minimum we'll achieve this season.
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Post by ceejays on Sept 21, 2023 6:35:45 GMT
The glaring failure to buy or loan a centre half capable in the air and with some experience and physicality is his major mistake. We seemed to have £5m at the end of the window to buy a centre forward . Should have got Davies ? ( not sure as I’ve not seen him play ) . Teams will soon cotton on to our weakness - if they haven’t already. So January priorities should be to buy not loan a good centre half . On the plus side we played with some verve and fluidity. Pity is Campbell hasn’t got a brain . Caught offside. Used to use his right foot but seems to have forgotten how as near post flick with his right foot would have scored. At least he has no track back duties in that position which is a relief as he’s liability out wide. Bae was very good for the 20 minutes he played and should be played as number 10 going forward for full game
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Post by vidigal7 on Sept 21, 2023 6:37:59 GMT
Neil has promotions on his CV, including one in this league. He also did a decent job at Preston and started well at Sunderland too, before coming here. There's enough there to satisfy me he is a good manager and more than capable of making a success of his time at the club. I'll make a fairer judgement of where we are in January, once things have had time to settle down and the squad has starred to gel and integrate. Over the short space of this season there's been some very good and some very bad, and to some extent you'd expect inconsistency given the complete overhaul we've undertaken. I think top half is the minimum we'll achieve this season. Neil is a good manager regardless of what these toxic fools that disguise themselves as supporters say on here. Stoke fans are crap supporters Why don't the theives of joy f off and 'follow' somebody else
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Sept 21, 2023 6:42:49 GMT
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Post by thornestein on Sept 21, 2023 6:42:49 GMT
Neil has promotions on his CV, including one in this league. He also did a decent job at Preston and started well at Sunderland too, before coming here. There's enough there to satisfy me he is a good manager and more than capable of making a success of his time at the club. I'll make a fairer judgement of where we are in January, once things have had time to settle down and the squad has starred to gel and integrate. Over the short space of this season there's been some very good and some very bad, and to some extent you'd expect inconsistency given the complete overhaul we've undertaken. I think top half is the minimum we'll achieve this season. well Coates jnr is expecting a promotion push and play offs at least , so gladly what you think is irrelevant
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Sept 21, 2023 6:45:02 GMT
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Post by thornestein on Sept 21, 2023 6:45:02 GMT
Neil has promotions on his CV, including one in this league. He also did a decent job at Preston and started well at Sunderland too, before coming here. There's enough there to satisfy me he is a good manager and more than capable of making a success of his time at the club. I'll make a fairer judgement of where we are in January, once things have had time to settle down and the squad has starred to gel and integrate. Over the short space of this season there's been some very good and some very bad, and to some extent you'd expect inconsistency given the complete overhaul we've undertaken. I think top half is the minimum we'll achieve this season. Neil is a good manager regardless of what these toxic fools that disguise themselves as supporters say on here. Stoke fans are crap supporters Why don't the theives of joy f off and 'follow' somebody else says one the biggest idiots on here lol 😂
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Sept 21, 2023 6:47:53 GMT
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Post by vidigal7 on Sept 21, 2023 6:47:53 GMT
Neil is a good manager regardless of what these toxic fools that disguise themselves as supporters say on here. Stoke fans are crap supporters Why don't the theives of joy f off and 'follow' somebody else says one the biggest idiots on here lol 😂 I ain't in the mood, you're a disgrace to your alleged club you support, consider yourself blocked. Youre not a supporter youre a theif of joy. Any other theives of joy just pop up and make yourself known, happily blocked. At least I support my club you massive weapon
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Post by Deleted on Sept 21, 2023 6:48:18 GMT
Neil has promotions on his CV, including one in this league. He also did a decent job at Preston and started well at Sunderland too, before coming here. There's enough there to satisfy me he is a good manager and more than capable of making a success of his time at the club. I'll make a fairer judgement of where we are in January, once things have had time to settle down and the squad has starred to gel and integrate. Over the short space of this season there's been some very good and some very bad, and to some extent you'd expect inconsistency given the complete overhaul we've undertaken. I think top half is the minimum we'll achieve this season. Neil is a good manager regardless of what these toxic fools that disguise themselves as supporters say on here. Stoke fans are crap supporters Why don't the theives of joy f off and 'follow' somebody else Stoke fans want success. Even moderate success, which relative to where we have been, might be top 8 this season. As it stands, we're showing some bad habits. And we're 19th, with a tough run of games coming up. And the whole new squad isn't gelling. And some if our players are not good enough. And the manager's flip-flopping each week. All of those are facts.
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Sept 21, 2023 6:48:22 GMT
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Post by thornestein on Sept 21, 2023 6:48:22 GMT
says one the biggest idiots on here lol 😂 I ain't in the mood, you're a disgrace to your alleged club you support, consider yourself blocked. Youre not a supporter youre a theif of joy. Any other theives of joy just pop up and make yourself known, happily blocked. haha 😂
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Post by vidigal7 on Sept 21, 2023 6:49:22 GMT
I ain't in the mood, you're a disgrace to your alleged club you support, consider yourself blocked. Youre not a supporter youre a theif of joy. Any other theives of joy just pop up and make yourself known, happily blocked. haha 😂 Your negative drivel won't spoil my season pal, goodbye.
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Post by tommycarlsberg on Sept 21, 2023 6:49:58 GMT
Neil has promotions on his CV, including one in this league. He also did a decent job at Preston and started well at Sunderland too, before coming here. There's enough there to satisfy me he is a good manager and more than capable of making a success of his time at the club. I'll make a fairer judgement of where we are in January, once things have had time to settle down and the squad has starred to gel and integrate. Over the short space of this season there's been some very good and some very bad, and to some extent you'd expect inconsistency given the complete overhaul we've undertaken. I think top half is the minimum we'll achieve this season. Neil is a good manager regardless of what these toxic fools that disguise themselves as supporters say on here. Stoke fans are crap supporters Why don't the theives of joy f off and 'follow' somebody else He and we have been absolutely useless for the past 12 months, all except for one month which is so faint in the memory that I struggle to give the credit for these days.
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Sept 21, 2023 6:50:26 GMT
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Post by vidigal7 on Sept 21, 2023 6:50:26 GMT
Can someone tell me how you block individuals please
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Sept 21, 2023 6:50:47 GMT
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Post by thornestein on Sept 21, 2023 6:50:47 GMT
Your negative drivel won't spoil my season pal, goodbye. happy 👏👏👏 happy 👏👏👏😂
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Post by vidigal7 on Sept 21, 2023 6:52:48 GMT
Your negative drivel won't spoil my season pal, goodbye. happy 👏👏👏 happy 👏👏👏😂 I don't even know how to do it but I'm sure somebody will tell me, you're a thief of joy, I gain nothing by reading yours and like minded negative drivel. A healthy mind is healthy because its got no time for idiots
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Sept 21, 2023 6:53:17 GMT
Folk that seriously think that Neil is going anywhere are the biggest deluded fools you could ever imagine. Ricky Martin is best buddy is above him running the show and Gallagher has been bought here also along with Canning. Just won’t happen at all It will if the crowd turns. I tend to agree with you that things will improve. But it doesn't matter if Ricky turns out to be his secret dad, if the crowd fully turns on a manager they're toast.
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Post by itsmorethanagame on Sept 21, 2023 6:53:25 GMT
Neil has promotions on his CV, including one in this league. He also did a decent job at Preston and started well at Sunderland too, before coming here. There's enough there to satisfy me he is a good manager and more than capable of making a success of his time at the club. I'll make a fairer judgement of where we are in January, once things have had time to settle down and the squad has starred to gel and integrate. Over the short space of this season there's been some very good and some very bad, and to some extent you'd expect inconsistency given the complete overhaul we've undertaken. I think top half is the minimum we'll achieve this season. Pretty much agree with this. I think it’s fair to say he’s under performed since coming here. But after such a big overhaul in the summer it’s madness to not give him time to get things right. There are signs of things coming together whilst I also appreciate there are worries defensively. We need patience and to appreciate there are going to be a few erratic performances and results. When Vidigal and Mmaee are back in and up to speed I can really see us going on a good run. Top half with signs of things coming together is minimrequired this season. If that does happen by end of the season then I will understand any calls for his head. But throwing the toys out of the pram this early and crying for him to go is ridiculous at this stage.
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Post by danceswithclams on Sept 21, 2023 6:57:18 GMT
Neil has promotions on his CV, including one in this league. He also did a decent job at Preston and started well at Sunderland too, before coming here. There's enough there to satisfy me he is a good manager and more than capable of making a success of his time at the club. I'll make a fairer judgement of where we are in January, once things have had time to settle down and the squad has starred to gel and integrate. Over the short space of this season there's been some very good and some very bad, and to some extent you'd expect inconsistency given the complete overhaul we've undertaken. I think top half is the minimum we'll achieve this season. Neil is a good manager regardless of what these toxic fools that disguise themselves as supporters say on here. Stoke fans are crap supporters Why don't the theives of joy f off and 'follow' somebody else I wish you'd fuck off and post somewhere else, you condescending berk.
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Post by biddulphchav on Sept 21, 2023 6:57:20 GMT
Your negative drivel won't spoil my season pal, goodbye. happy 👏👏👏 happy 👏👏👏😂 When you figure it out can you block me too?
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Post by bayernoatcake on Sept 21, 2023 6:58:06 GMT
Neil has promotions on his CV, including one in this league. He also did a decent job at Preston and started well at Sunderland too, before coming here. There's enough there to satisfy me he is a good manager and more than capable of making a success of his time at the club. I'll make a fairer judgement of where we are in January, once things have had time to settle down and the squad has starred to gel and integrate. Over the short space of this season there's been some very good and some very bad, and to some extent you'd expect inconsistency given the complete overhaul we've undertaken. I think top half is the minimum we'll achieve this season. Pretty much agree with this. I think it’s fair to say he’s under performed since coming here. But after such a big overhaul in the summer it’s madness to not give him time to get things right. There are signs of things coming together whilst I also appreciate there are worries defensively. We need patience and to appreciate there are going to be a few erratic performances and results. When Vidigal and Mmaee are back in and up to speed I can really see us going on a good run. Top half with signs of things coming together is minimrequired this season. If that does happen by end of the season then I will understand any calls for his head. But throwing the toys out of the pram this early and crying for him to go is ridiculous at this stage. Why is it? He should have been sacked in May and it was a missed opportunity. He’s shown nothing since being here. This season so far has seen the same issues as last season despite a turnaround in players and he keeps making the same inexcusable mistakes. Ending his misery now and putting the passports we found for the summer window to good use for a new manager should be high on the boards agenda. They should also let someone else pick the manager because they clearly don’t know how to do it.
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Post by vidigal7 on Sept 21, 2023 7:01:46 GMT
Neil is a good manager regardless of what these toxic fools that disguise themselves as supporters say on here. Stoke fans are crap supporters Why don't the theives of joy f off and 'follow' somebody else I wish you'd fuck off and post somewhere else, you condescending berk. Thanks for coming forward
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Post by Biblical on Sept 21, 2023 7:02:26 GMT
Neil has promotions on his CV, including one in this league. He also did a decent job at Preston and started well at Sunderland too, before coming here. There's enough there to satisfy me he is a good manager and more than capable of making a success of his time at the club. I'll make a fairer judgement of where we are in January, once things have had time to settle down and the squad has starred to gel and integrate. Over the short space of this season there's been some very good and some very bad, and to some extent you'd expect inconsistency given the complete overhaul we've undertaken. I think top half is the minimum we'll achieve this season. Pretty much agree with this. I think it’s fair to say he’s under performed since coming here. But after such a big overhaul in the summer it’s madness to not give him time to get things right. There are signs of things coming together whilst I also appreciate there are worries defensively. We need patience and to appreciate there are going to be a few erratic performances and results. When Vidigal and Mmaee are back in and up to speed I can really see us going on a good run. Top half with signs of things coming together is minimrequired this season. If that does happen by end of the season then I will understand any calls for his head. But throwing the toys out of the pram this early and crying for him to go is ridiculous at this stage. Good post. We looked really bad going forward last season and we’re clearly better in that department this season. It’s a shame Vidigal got injured but he’s looked really promising and I liked what I saw from Haksabanovic last night. We’ve barely seen anything of Bae and Mmaee but hopefully they show us why we signed them as well. Defending set pieces has been a problem but we can work on that, there’s no way Rose was told to do whatever he was doing for their 2nd last night, that’s just a terrible lapse on his part. It’s a long season and I think we’ll get better as we go on.
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Sept 21, 2023 7:06:30 GMT
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Post by Biblical on Sept 21, 2023 7:06:30 GMT
Pretty much agree with this. I think it’s fair to say he’s under performed since coming here. But after such a big overhaul in the summer it’s madness to not give him time to get things right. There are signs of things coming together whilst I also appreciate there are worries defensively. We need patience and to appreciate there are going to be a few erratic performances and results. When Vidigal and Mmaee are back in and up to speed I can really see us going on a good run. Top half with signs of things coming together is minimrequired this season. If that does happen by end of the season then I will understand any calls for his head. But throwing the toys out of the pram this early and crying for him to go is ridiculous at this stage. Why is it? He should have been sacked in May and it was a missed opportunity. He’s shown nothing since being here. This season so far has seen the same issues as last season despite a turnaround in players and he keeps making the same inexcusable mistakes. Ending his misery now and putting the passports we found for the summer window to good use for a new manager should be high on the boards agenda. They should also let someone else pick the manager because they clearly don’t know how to do it. Cant agree that he should have been sacked in May, I’ve seen you comment many times that that squad was shit and the performances simply reflected that. He’s absolutely got to prove himself this season though, and we’ve got to be better.
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Sept 21, 2023 7:06:31 GMT
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Post by biddulphchav on Sept 21, 2023 7:06:31 GMT
Pretty much agree with this. I think it’s fair to say he’s under performed since coming here. But after such a big overhaul in the summer it’s madness to not give him time to get things right. There are signs of things coming together whilst I also appreciate there are worries defensively. We need patience and to appreciate there are going to be a few erratic performances and results. When Vidigal and Mmaee are back in and up to speed I can really see us going on a good run. Top half with signs of things coming together is minimrequired this season. If that does happen by end of the season then I will understand any calls for his head. But throwing the toys out of the pram this early and crying for him to go is ridiculous at this stage. Good post. We looked really bad going forward last season and we’re clearly better in that department this season. It’s a shame Vidigal got injured but he’s looked really promising and I liked what I saw from Haksabanovic last night. We’ve barely seen anything of Bae and Mmaee but hopefully they show us why we signed them as well. Defending set pieces has been a problem but we can work on that, there’s no way Rose was told to do whatever he was doing for their 2nd last night, that’s just a terrible lapse on his part. It’s a long season and I think we’ll get better as we go on. We’re decent going forward, certainly better than last year. But we are a bit soft at the back, though we have a good keeper. I would have built the team from the back given how much money we’ve had to spend - we seem very heavy on midfield / winger types and light on quality at the back. For that reason I think we’ll struggle until at least January when Neil hopefully addresses the issue.
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Post by itsmorethanagame on Sept 21, 2023 7:08:42 GMT
Pretty much agree with this. I think it’s fair to say he’s under performed since coming here. But after such a big overhaul in the summer it’s madness to not give him time to get things right. There are signs of things coming together whilst I also appreciate there are worries defensively. We need patience and to appreciate there are going to be a few erratic performances and results. When Vidigal and Mmaee are back in and up to speed I can really see us going on a good run. Top half with signs of things coming together is minimrequired this season. If that does happen by end of the season then I will understand any calls for his head. But throwing the toys out of the pram this early and crying for him to go is ridiculous at this stage. Why is it? He should have been sacked in May and it was a missed opportunity. He’s shown nothing since being here. This season so far has seen the same issues as last season despite a turnaround in players and he keeps making the same inexcusable mistakes. Ending his misery now and putting the passports we found for the summer window to good use for a new manager should be high on the boards agenda. They should also let someone else pick the manager because they clearly don’t know how to do it. The fact that you don’t know and need it spelling out says it all. We are 7 games in to the season after 17 new players arriving
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Post by bayernoatcake on Sept 21, 2023 7:09:11 GMT
Why is it? He should have been sacked in May and it was a missed opportunity. He’s shown nothing since being here. This season so far has seen the same issues as last season despite a turnaround in players and he keeps making the same inexcusable mistakes. Ending his misery now and putting the passports we found for the summer window to good use for a new manager should be high on the boards agenda. They should also let someone else pick the manager because they clearly don’t know how to do it. Cant agree that he should have been sacked in May, I’ve seen you comment many times that that squad was shit and the performances simply reflected that. He’s absolutely got to prove himself this season though, and we’ve got to be better. He came in and was useless. Improved none of the current players. The football got worse. And there was no plan. The squad was shit but a good manager gets a tune out of them irrespective. There’s absolutely nothing there from him to suggest he’s got the first clue about what he’s doing. He’s been such a let down.
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Sept 21, 2023 7:10:01 GMT
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Post by bayernoatcake on Sept 21, 2023 7:10:01 GMT
Why is it? He should have been sacked in May and it was a missed opportunity. He’s shown nothing since being here. This season so far has seen the same issues as last season despite a turnaround in players and he keeps making the same inexcusable mistakes. Ending his misery now and putting the passports we found for the summer window to good use for a new manager should be high on the boards agenda. They should also let someone else pick the manager because they clearly don’t know how to do it. The fact that you don’t know and need it spelling out says it all. We are 7 games in to the season after 17 new players arriving So? A good manager makes a difference instantly. He hasn’t made a difference in 13 months. Indeed he’s been a hinderance.
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Post by telfordstokie on Sept 21, 2023 7:14:06 GMT
Know it wasn’t the win it should have been but I thought last night was an important step forward performance-wise - play like that every week and you’ll win most matches at this level.
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