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Post by Deleted on Sept 20, 2023 21:37:26 GMT
I've stood by him from the start (he needs time, it's not his squad, etc, yeaahhh ok).
But he's got to be getting a better tune from 'his new squad' by the end of October....
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Post by stokemark on Sept 20, 2023 21:38:16 GMT
A bang average manager - we never learn
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Sept 20, 2023 21:40:18 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Sept 20, 2023 21:40:18 GMT
17 signings and Johnson at left back Sack the fraud now The worry is Johnson looked better than Stevens...
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Post by ibby on Sept 20, 2023 21:49:31 GMT
Poor manager he is.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 20, 2023 21:51:13 GMT
I'm starting to wonder if I like him, because he's not Michael O'Neill, who I liked because he wasn't Nathan Jones?
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Post by bayernoatcake on Sept 20, 2023 21:54:11 GMT
I'm starting to wonder if I like him, because he's not Michael O'Neill, who I liked because he wasn't Nathan Jones? I believe this is a massive issue with our fanbase. The standards are so low. And what you’ve said imo is why. There’s just relief that it’s not the previous fuckwit despite it being another fuckwit.
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Sept 20, 2023 21:56:37 GMT
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Post by wilcopotter on Sept 20, 2023 21:56:37 GMT
Has this bloke actually improved us? So far I think not. On paper, yes In the pitch, taken us backwards So who do you think we should replace him with?
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Post by jesusmcmuffin on Sept 20, 2023 21:57:32 GMT
I'm starting to wonder if I like him, because he's not Michael O'Neill, who I liked because he wasn't Nathan Jones? I believe this is a massive issue with our fanbase. The standards are so low. And what you’ve said imo is why. There’s just relief that it’s not the previous fuckwit despite it being another fuckwit. Calling Neil a fuckwit !!! Harsh on fuckwits
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Sept 20, 2023 21:57:53 GMT
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Post by boskampsflaps on Sept 20, 2023 21:57:53 GMT
I was determined to wait 12-15 games before passing judgement, but that’s really put some pressure on my patience. Decent managers maximise the available resources. Decent coaching improves players. Are either of these things happening at our club? Who knows, we've signed 18 players and it's pretty early days.
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Sept 20, 2023 21:58:57 GMT
This thread will be hilarious to look back on come Christmas time
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Post by davejohnno1 on Sept 20, 2023 22:02:19 GMT
This thread will be hilarious to look back on come Christmas time Why? Do you think we’ll be doing well by then?
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Post by roylandstoke on Sept 20, 2023 22:02:20 GMT
I was determined to wait 12-15 games before passing judgement, but that’s really put some pressure on my patience. Decent managers maximise the available resources. Decent coaching improves players. Are either of these things happening at our club? Who knows, we've signed 18 players and it's pretty early days. He’s been in charge for over a year. Results have got worse. Replace the competent loanee keeper with Bursik or Bonham and we’re in the bottom 3. Excuses are not valid anymore. Improve results quickly.
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Sept 20, 2023 22:03:06 GMT
This thread will be hilarious to look back on come Christmas time Why? Do you think we’ll be doing well by then? Yes I do mate,it’ll click sooner rather than later
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Post by ginkgo on Sept 20, 2023 22:03:13 GMT
17 signings and Johnson at left back Sack the fraud now The worry is Johnson looked better than Stevens... Why is that a worry? Stevens isn't available. The manager gets criticised on here for selecting Johnson to play in that role before the match even starts. Johnson actually does well, and now that's something to be concerned about. 'Every silver lining has a cloud.'
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Sept 20, 2023 22:05:37 GMT
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Post by jesusmcmuffin on Sept 20, 2023 22:05:37 GMT
On paper, yes In the pitch, taken us backwards So who do you think we should replace him with? If we can tempt Neil from Sunderland then it depends of course if we could do the same again or if we're willing to, if they would come of course another issue. Personally think is zero chance of it happening anyway to be honest. I think he'll still be here in December and the same individuals talking about what he's going to do and ignoring what is in front of them. Oh well. I admire their optimism as nothing to suggest it will happen. Be very happily wrong of course but we're back to Nathan Jones for me
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Sept 20, 2023 22:10:41 GMT
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Post by boskampsflaps on Sept 20, 2023 22:10:41 GMT
Who knows, we've signed 18 players and it's pretty early days. He’s been in charge for over a year. Results have got worse. Replace the competent loanee keeper with Bursik or Bonham and we’re in the bottom 3. Excuses are not valid anymore. Improve results quickly. Fair enough, I was just on a bout this season, the squad last season was awful and would have taken a small miracle to make big improvements with.
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Sept 20, 2023 22:10:55 GMT
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Sept 20, 2023 22:10:55 GMT
Folk that seriously think that Neil is going anywhere are the biggest deluded fools you could ever imagine. Ricky Martin is best buddy is above him running the show and Gallagher has been bought here also along with Canning. Just won’t happen at all
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Sept 20, 2023 22:10:59 GMT
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Post by wilcopotter on Sept 20, 2023 22:10:59 GMT
So who do you think we should replace him with? If we can tempt Neil from Sunderland then it depends of course if we could do the same again or if we're willing to, if they would come of course another issue. Personally think is zero chance of it happening anyway to be honest. I think he'll still be here in December and the same individuals talking about what he's going to do and ignoring what is in front of them. Oh well. I admire their optimism as nothing to suggest it will happen. Be very happily wrong of course but we're back to Nathan Jones for me So who are you actually saying we should get in to replace him?
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Sept 20, 2023 22:17:26 GMT
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Post by jesusmcmuffin on Sept 20, 2023 22:17:26 GMT
If we can tempt Neil from Sunderland then it depends of course if we could do the same again or if we're willing to, if they would come of course another issue. Personally think is zero chance of it happening anyway to be honest. I think he'll still be here in December and the same individuals talking about what he's going to do and ignoring what is in front of them. Oh well. I admire their optimism as nothing to suggest it will happen. Be very happily wrong of course but we're back to Nathan Jones for me So who are you actually saying we should get in to replace him? If we were going to try and poach a manager with ££££ would go for Miron Muslic although maybe a long shot
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Sept 20, 2023 22:23:12 GMT
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Post by wilcopotter on Sept 20, 2023 22:23:12 GMT
So who are you actually saying we should get in to replace him? If we were going to try and poach a manager with ££££ would go for Miron Muslic although maybe a long shot Never heard of him. Is he any good?
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Sept 20, 2023 22:26:28 GMT
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Post by jesusmcmuffin on Sept 20, 2023 22:26:28 GMT
If we were going to try and poach a manager with ££££ would go for Miron Muslic although maybe a long shot Never heard of him. Is he any good? Circle Brugge coach think he's out of contract next year. Come up through the lower leagues to coach there and turned them into a really good side. Think he's Bosnian, would have to Google that and earned his reputation to get a bigger job and doing really well there. Wouldn't be on huge money you wouldn't think. Quick edit Yep 41 year old Bosnian. Currently 3rd in the league. A bit left field but a few clubs in the Prem going that way rather than the usual old names. Was originally assistant coach and a second division before that
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Post by DC1863 on Sept 20, 2023 22:32:35 GMT
Folk that seriously think that Neil is going anywhere are the biggest deluded fools you could ever imagine. Ricky Martin is best buddy is above him running the show and Gallagher has been bought here also along with Canning. Just won’t happen at all If our form continues and we are in/lurking around the relegation zone come the winter what then? Martin is employed to improve the club, by the club, why would he fight to keep Neil if the fans and more importantly the owners truly lose patience? He'd be risking his own neck for no reason, people don't tend to do that, loyalties or no. Gallagher and Canning are just coaching staff, not exactly immovable objects are they. I'm not personally advocating for him to be sacked anytime soon, but calling fans questioning the results "the biggest deluded fools you could ever imagine" seems a bit naive. Why wouldn't Coates, Martin & Dublin just work together to employ another manager if Neil doesn't get the results?
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Sept 20, 2023 22:37:36 GMT
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Sept 20, 2023 22:37:36 GMT
Folk that seriously think that Neil is going anywhere are the biggest deluded fools you could ever imagine. Ricky Martin is best buddy is above him running the show and Gallagher has been bought here also along with Canning. Just won’t happen at all If our form continues and we are in/lurking around the relegation zone come the winter what then? Martin is employed to improve the club, by the club, why would he fight to keep Neil if the fans and more importantly the owners truly lose patience? He'd be risking his own neck for no reason, people don't tend to do that, loyalties or no. Gallagher and Canning are just coaching staff, not exactly immovable objects are they. I'm not personally advocating for him to be sacked anytime soon, but calling fans questioning the results "the biggest deluded fools you could ever imagine" seems a bit naive. Why wouldn't Coates, Martin & Dublin just work together to employ another manager if Neil doesn't get the results? To be fair mate the deluded fool comment is aimed at about 3 usual suspects who carry a black cloud continually over their heads and won’t be seen once we start winning
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Post by bayernoatcake on Sept 20, 2023 22:40:06 GMT
This thread will be hilarious to look back on come Christmas time You started a thread on Saturday questioning him 🤣🤣🤣🤣
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Post by independent on Sept 20, 2023 22:43:40 GMT
Folk that seriously think that Neil is going anywhere are the biggest deluded fools you could ever imagine.Ricky Martin is best buddy is above him running the show and Gallagher has been bought here also along with Canning. Just won’t happen at all i hope that both meanings of this statement don't turn out to be true.
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Post by DC1863 on Sept 20, 2023 22:45:05 GMT
If our form continues and we are in/lurking around the relegation zone come the winter what then? Martin is employed to improve the club, by the club, why would he fight to keep Neil if the fans and more importantly the owners truly lose patience? He'd be risking his own neck for no reason, people don't tend to do that, loyalties or no. Gallagher and Canning are just coaching staff, not exactly immovable objects are they. I'm not personally advocating for him to be sacked anytime soon, but calling fans questioning the results "the biggest deluded fools you could ever imagine" seems a bit naive. Why wouldn't Coates, Martin & Dublin just work together to employ another manager if Neil doesn't get the results? To be fair mate the deluded fool comment is aimed at about 3 usual suspects who carry a black cloud continually over their heads and won’t be seen once we start winning Fair doos, I think the club will give every possible opportunity to AN to turn it around having clearly backed him so heavily. We've got 9 league games until the mid-November international break, with some really tricky fixtures in between (all three relegated Prem sides). Despite their loyalties if we're still in a similar position by that point, I wouldn't be surprised to see them pull the trigger, but who knows.
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Sept 20, 2023 22:47:45 GMT
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Post by jesusmcmuffin on Sept 20, 2023 22:47:45 GMT
[quote source="/post/7903116/thread" Fair doos, I think the club will give every possible opportunity to AN to turn it around having clearly backed him so heavily. We've got 9 league games until the mid-November international break, with some really tricky fixtures in between (all three relegated Prem sides). Despite their loyalties if we're still in a similar position by that point, I wouldn't be surprised to see them pull the trigger, but who knows. [/quote] For sure you'd think but unless we start getting results rather than talking them they have to start questioning him.
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Sept 20, 2023 22:50:23 GMT
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Post by Stokyo on Sept 20, 2023 22:50:23 GMT
A bang average manager - we never learn Coates never learns. Problem is in the roots not the branches.
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Post by danceswithclams on Sept 20, 2023 23:09:04 GMT
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Post by Gods on Sept 20, 2023 23:15:13 GMT
Folk that seriously think that Neil is going anywhere are the biggest deluded fools you could ever imagine. Ricky Martin is best buddy is above him running the show and Gallagher has been bought here also along with Canning. Just won’t happen at all If our form continues and we are in/lurking around the relegation zone come the winter what then? Martin is employed to improve the club, by the club, why would he fight to keep Neil if the fans and more importantly the owners truly lose patience? He'd be risking his own neck for no reason, people don't tend to do that, loyalties or no. Gallagher and Canning are just coaching staff, not exactly immovable objects are they. I'm not personally advocating for him to be sacked anytime soon, but calling fans questioning the results "the biggest deluded fools you could ever imagine" seems a bit naive. Why wouldn't Coates, Martin & Dublin just work together to employ another manager if Neil doesn't get the results? I think it will be difficult if not impossible for John Coates to fire AN. Don't forget he poached him from Sunderland at considerable expense and then allowed him to hire mad Tricky Ricky and Google Jared, no other club would entertain these 2 clowns in a million years, so they would have to depart with him at yet more expense. But most of all John Coates has bank rolled the summer supermarket trolley dash and and can hardly walk away from it now. This season will be finished before the clocks go back, but where do we go from there, who knows...
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