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Post by st3mark on Sept 20, 2023 20:56:20 GMT
More possession, more shots, more corners and about 250 more passes.
This defending at set pieces is a fucking disgrace though.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Sept 20, 2023 20:56:35 GMT
He’s a dead man walking imo.
Bar some miraculous turnaround he’ll be hounded out before Christmas.
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Post by dirtygary69 on Sept 20, 2023 20:56:47 GMT
He’s promised front-foot, attacking football. Are we getting it? Tonight, yes, probably. Enough chances to win three games but also looked like conceding whenever they came forward.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 20, 2023 20:57:05 GMT
That was fucking shit As Cranson said, there's no shape and organization, we don't get back in shape quick, we look so fragile at the back Are you having a laugh, we were miles better than them. I wish fans like you and other pricks on here would support someone else The reason I'm angry is all through the transfer window I said this would happen, with the signings we made. We played lots of great football but we don't have the striker to hold it up and score, and we don't have the centre backs to defend simple ball in. The basics, the essentials. At the end of the transfer window I was so frustrated with our decision making and here we are paying the price. Today was garbage because I never thought at any point we'd win that game, for the reasons above. If we can't win that one you have to question what games we WILL win. I'm not sure what he can do with the personell he has, I'd be looking at those free agent centre backs again
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Post by gingerninja on Sept 20, 2023 20:58:05 GMT
Some of the football was at first a joy to watch, the trouble is, so much in-between wasn't, we clearly have some decent footballers, let's see where we stand when some of the missing players are back and integrated.
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Post by wonderwall on Sept 20, 2023 20:58:11 GMT
Has this bloke actually improved us?
So far I think not.
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Post by roylandstoke on Sept 20, 2023 20:58:23 GMT
I was determined to wait 12-15 games before passing judgement, but that’s really put some pressure on my patience.
Decent managers maximise the available resources. Decent coaching improves players.
Are either of these things happening at our club?
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Post by insect on Sept 20, 2023 20:59:23 GMT
Think we have a lot of potential in the squad to be honest. Not sure if AN knows what to do with it.
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Post by greenhoff on Sept 20, 2023 20:59:46 GMT
Are you having a laugh, we were miles better than them. I wish fans like you and other pricks on here would support someone else The reason I'm angry is all through the transfer window I said this would happen, with the signings we made. We played lots of great football but we don't have the striker to hold it up and score, and we don't have the centre backs to defend simple ball in. The basics, the essentials. At the end of the transfer window I was so frustrated with our decision making and here we are paying the price. Today was garbage because I never thought at any point we'd win that game, for the reasons above. If we can't win that one you have to question what games we WILL win. I'm not sure what he can do with the personell he has, I'd be looking at those free agent centre backs again We needed a decent keeper, we got one. We needed a dominant centre half, we didn't get one. We desperately needed a mobile centre forward with physicality. Again we didn't get one. The rest for me is window dressing!
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Post by Deleted on Sept 20, 2023 21:00:32 GMT
I don’t think I’ve ever seen 3 defenders get beat in the air so easy for their first goal. The defence is that poor it’s borderline funny. Rose and mcnally are so shit, so absolutely shit. I can't believe what I'm seeing at times.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Sept 20, 2023 21:00:34 GMT
He’s promised front-foot, attacking football. Are we getting it? Whatever the weaknesses of the performance, I don’t think we can be accused of being negative tonight can we? We created chances, we saw flashes of fast, fluid football at times and for better and for worse we were wide open. On the flip side we’re weak as piss at the back and shape-wise we’re all at sea when we don’t have the ball. We won’t play many worse teams this season yet we could just as easily have lost as won. Still plenty of time to improve but it’s hard to see how we stop looking disjointed while we’re playing Tombola team selection every game.
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Post by jesusmcmuffin on Sept 20, 2023 21:00:39 GMT
Think we have a lot of potential in the squad to be honest. Not sure if AN knows what to do with it. I think that's the problem 100%
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Post by sticky on Sept 20, 2023 21:01:25 GMT
I don’t think we played that bad tbh, the lack of fitness looks an issue though. We seem very fragile mind, but after going a goal down we had a quick response. In all reality he’ll be going nowhere so might as well calm down and try to enjoy the ride!
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Post by jesusmcmuffin on Sept 20, 2023 21:01:37 GMT
Has this bloke actually improved us? So far I think not. On paper, yes In the pitch, taken us backwards
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Post by peterthornesboots on Sept 20, 2023 21:02:01 GMT
He’s promised front-foot, attacking football. Are we getting it? Whatever the weaknesses of the performance, I don’t think we can be accused of being negative tonight can we? We created chances, we saw flashes of fans, fluid football at times and for better and for worse we were wide open. On the flip side we’re weak as piss at the back and shape-wise we’re all at sea when we don’t have the ball. We won’t play many worse teams this season yet we could just as easily have lost as won. Still plenty of time to improve but it’s hard to see how we stop looking disjointed while we’re playing Tombola team selection every game. This. Despite playing with a back five we actually looked more fluid, positive, and attack-minded than we have in weeks. Especially in the first half. However, we looked so fragile at the back that it was frightening really.
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Post by Biblical on Sept 20, 2023 21:04:46 GMT
We played well enough to be out of sight in that game, let down by poor finishing and poor defending from set pieces.
We’re not a million miles away really, few tweaks here and there and big players in Vidigal and Mmaee to return from injury.
Some people just need to calm down a bit.
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Post by wonderwall on Sept 20, 2023 21:05:48 GMT
He’s promised front-foot, attacking football. Are we getting it? Whatever the weaknesses of the performance, I don’t think we can be accused of being negative tonight can we? We created chances, we saw flashes of fans, fluid football at times and for better and for worse we were wide open. On the flip side we’re weak as piss at the back and shape-wise we’re all at sea when we don’t have the ball. We won’t play many worse teams this season yet we could just as easily have lost as won. Still plenty of time to improve but it’s hard to see how we stop looking disjointed while we’re playing Tombola team selection every game. Spot on, it’s all over the shop.
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Sept 20, 2023 21:06:07 GMT
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Post by sportsman on Sept 20, 2023 21:06:07 GMT
Haven't watched the game, couldn't be arsed read all the moans on here throughout the game, other than a quick look before half time where most comments were saying how wonderful we are.
Another game same as every other we play where we dominate possession and passes, just need to get the injured players back and start putting chances away.
I said it when we signed him and I'll say it again, anyone think the Celtic lad is going be one of our best players this season?
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Post by wearestoke80 on Sept 20, 2023 21:06:16 GMT
He’s a dead man walking imo. Bar some miraculous turnaround he’ll be hounded out before Christmas. And we’ll be in the same position this time next year with another clueless manager. What’s the point.
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Post by josefr on Sept 20, 2023 21:09:58 GMT
Seven games seven points. What a fraud.
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Post by jesusmcmuffin on Sept 20, 2023 21:11:15 GMT
We played well enough to be out of sight in that game, let down by poor finishing and poor defending from set pieces. We’re not a million miles away really, few tweaks here and there and big players in Vidigal and Mmaee to return from injury. Some people just need to calm down a bit. Hope so but we can't keep talking about missed chances, what we might do etc after every game Was much better in places but awful in others. I really don't know where we're at.
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Post by greenhoff on Sept 20, 2023 21:11:21 GMT
We played well enough to be out of sight in that game, let down by poor finishing and poor defending from set pieces. We’re not a million miles away really, few tweaks here and there and big players in Vidigal and Mmaee to return from injury. Some people just need to calm down a bit. We've been saying this for 5 years. We're a complete shit show
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Post by DC1863 on Sept 20, 2023 21:14:21 GMT
4 more league games before the international break, lose Sunday and there's no doubt he's under pressure.
Surely our new 'data driven approach' can find a young coach capable of getting the best out of this squad.
We've had far too many of these performances under Neil, it's a results industry, his results with us are undeniably poor.
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Post by josefr on Sept 20, 2023 21:19:15 GMT
The fact is you play Johnson at LB, you bring on Gayle as a last resort, you play five at the back, you keep sticking with Laurent as captain. Get out goblin.
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Post by bagnallboothen on Sept 20, 2023 21:19:56 GMT
I don't really rate him but I'd stick with him until the end of the season. Unfortunately we are a lower championship team. You think the owners brought this bloke, Martin, Dublin and 18 new players in because they like finishing 16th?
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Post by bagnallboothen on Sept 20, 2023 21:23:29 GMT
I don’t think I’ve ever seen 3 defenders get beat in the air so easy for their first goal. The defence is that poor it’s borderline funny. Rose and mcnally are so shit, so absolutely shit. I can't believe what I'm seeing at times. Both played more than a part in reaching the play off final only last season... suggests they aren't the issue!
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Post by bigvern on Sept 20, 2023 21:23:44 GMT
I don't really rate him but I'd stick with him until the end of the season. Unfortunately we are a lower championship team. You think the owners brought this bloke, Martin, Dublin and 18 new players in because they like finishing 16th? Do you think they will sack him?
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Post by stokemark on Sept 20, 2023 21:27:08 GMT
17 signings and Johnson at left back
Sack the fraud now
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Post by bagnallboothen on Sept 20, 2023 21:28:14 GMT
You think the owners brought this bloke, Martin, Dublin and 18 new players in because they like finishing 16th? Do you think they will sack him? Yes. They want to get out of this league. I think he's got a bit of time yet but if we're 18th around Christmas he's fucked. What we do then when we've allowed him to shape the entire club and sack every man and his dog from 1st team to under 7s god only knows. He comes across as a bit of a prick to be honest ... which is fine when you're winning.
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Post by bigvern on Sept 20, 2023 21:33:35 GMT
Do you think they will sack him? Yes. They want to get out of this league. I think he's got a bit of time yet but if we're 18th around Christmas he's fucked. What we do then when we've allowed him to shape the entire club and sack every man and his dog from 1st team to under 7s god only knows. He comes across as a bit of a prick to be honest ... which is fine when you're winning. I think the board have put all their eggs in one basket with this set up and will be willing to give him more time. I don't think the fans will be as patient if it continues.
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