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Post by Deleted on Dec 4, 2023 12:32:29 GMT
So he thinks plenty of teams are inconsistent? 15 defeats in 26 is very consistent, Alex. |
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Alex Neil
Dec 4, 2023 12:36:38 GMT
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Post by scfcno1fan on Dec 4, 2023 12:36:38 GMT
He’s here for another week isn’t he?
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Post by pavel on Dec 4, 2023 12:41:48 GMT
He’s here for another week isn’t he? It unfortunately looks like that way. |
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Post by questionable on Dec 4, 2023 12:43:46 GMT
You can see it now, We’d like to thank AN for his time here (not really) but unfortunately we have nobody to take his place as AN had a free reign and they’re all his appointments, we’re actively now looking for his replacement but in the meantime if anyone out there has some background in failing at management please forward an expression of interest to SCFC and why you’d be a good fit and what you can bring to this exciting position.
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Post by pavel on Dec 4, 2023 13:04:31 GMT
...and so it goes on, excuse after excuse. "were suited for some games, not for others" to paraphrase Neil. Well Neil you've had 15 months and a shed load of money to build a team that can compete in this division and to be suitable to take on all comers, yet you still haven't even achieved the basics of putting a coherent team, approach or game plan together in that time. Tactics are close to none existent, far too rigid and nothing ever changes in game, we still plough on down the same cul de sac even though it's blatantly obvious to everyone else that it just not working.
The man is a total fraud, a billy big bollox when it comes to the talk and a vacant space when it comes to the walk.
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Alex Neil
Dec 4, 2023 13:09:08 GMT
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Post by MilanStokie on Dec 4, 2023 13:09:08 GMT
Sounds as if he's been told he's got one more chance to sort it and then it's goodbye.
Now, do we want to lose the next game with the future in mind, knowing/thinking he's incapable of doing well here? Or do we, naturally, as stoke fans, hope we win but it means it buys him more time? Dilemma .
The owners brought it on themselves though.
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Alex Neil
Dec 4, 2023 13:18:24 GMT
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Post by Ron on Dec 4, 2023 13:18:24 GMT
He ain't going anywhere, we all know it, we can't get rid, we can't afford to after investing so much, it's crazy , we are stuck with him. I don't understand this argument. It's not like they'll only play for Neil or they're perfectly suited to his style of play. The recruitment in the summer was actually good and we have a decent squad with lots of options. The new manager could also come in and make a couple of signings in January. We aren't under the same FFP restraints as previous seasons either. No- the recruitment was, again, appalling. The defensive acquisitions maybe McNally aside have been woeful and the deal with Travers naive. Further- we’ve bought too many forward players. We didn’t need Haksabanovic to sit around n gather dust for example. Wesley is appalling and anyone could have predicted that. So no, I’m sure I’m not alone in saying the recruitment was poor. Replayed Tymon n Brown with worse players. |
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Alex Neil
Dec 4, 2023 13:21:45 GMT
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Post by mamathestriker on Dec 4, 2023 13:21:45 GMT
Sounds as if he's been told he's got one more chance to sort it and then it's goodbye. Now, do we want to lose the next game with the future in mind, knowing/thinking he's incapable of doing well here? Or do we, naturally, as stoke fans, hope we win but it means it buys him more time? Dilemma . The owners brought it on themselves though. It's really sad but long term I think we'd be better off without him. So if that means losing on Saturday to speedup the process, it's for the best. I can't believe I'm typing it but he needs go. |
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Post by tallerthancrouch on Dec 4, 2023 13:28:46 GMT
IMO sack Neil now and get John Eustace !!
or …..potter but I cant see the latter happening
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Post by neddy on Dec 4, 2023 13:32:01 GMT
I guess they may be reasoning:
- we’ve got nobody lined up and the pool not good enough?
- throw a centre half and perhaps a striker in January and see what happens?
- he should be good enough just to avoid relegation?
- if he gets to the summer only is it one year to pay off? Ffp impact etc.
For me though the real thing is are there signs is he good enough long term and from what we’ve seen….no. So could live with us surviving so long as they get looking to sort it out in summer?
Who knows!
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Post by silsdenstokie on Dec 4, 2023 13:35:16 GMT
I guess they may be reasoning: - we’ve got nobody lined up and the pool not good enough? - throw a centre half and perhaps a striker in January and see what happens? - he should be good enough just to avoid relegation? - if he gets to the summer only is it one year to pay off? For me though the real thing is are there signs is he good enough long term and from what we’ve seen….no. So could live with us surviving so long as they get looking to sort it out in summer? Who knows! If thats their way of looking at it, I would feel far safer if they got Warnock in for the rest of the season |
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Alex Neil
Dec 4, 2023 13:38:08 GMT
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Post by george2again on Dec 4, 2023 13:38:08 GMT
Even if we get 6 points in the next two home games it should make no difference, the dye is cast. One step forward two steps backwards all the time. Has to be removed.
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Post by peterpan1 on Dec 4, 2023 13:52:17 GMT
...and so it goes on, excuse after excuse. "were suited for some games, not for others" to paraphrase Neil. Well Neil you've had 15 months and a shed load of money to build a team that can compete in this division and to be suitable to take on all comers, yet you still haven't even achieved the basics of putting a coherent team, approach or game plan together in that time. Tactics are close to none existent, far too rigid and nothing ever changes in game, we still plough on down the same cul de sac even though it's blatantly obvious to everyone else that it just not working. The man is a total fraud, a billy big bollox when it comes to the talk and a vacant space when it comes to the walk. A half decent manager can put together a team to play any opponent. Starting with a plan always helps. |
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Post by nott1 on Dec 4, 2023 14:17:34 GMT
Has he gone yet?
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Post by Staffsoatcake on Dec 4, 2023 14:23:16 GMT
While he is here,we are going to have a few unbeaten runs,longer no win runs,but just enough to keep us in this Division,if Coates Jr.is happy enough with that,we will just have to sit back & get used to it.
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Post by skip on Dec 4, 2023 14:26:03 GMT
"We" is doing some heavy lifting in his comments. It's "you" mate, not the collective "we" that make the big calls. |
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Post by NassauDave on Dec 4, 2023 14:30:39 GMT
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Post by AlliG on Dec 4, 2023 14:34:50 GMT
"We" is doing some heavy lifting in his comments. It's "you" mate, not the collective "we" that make the big calls. I am a bit surprised that he hasn't done what NFL Head Coaches tend to do when they start coming under pressure from bad results. Blame a couple of coaches for the team misfiring, fire them and bring in a couple of new coaches to "freshen things up". |
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Post by skip on Dec 4, 2023 14:38:54 GMT
"We" is doing some heavy lifting in his comments. It's "you" mate, not the collective "we" that make the big calls. I am a bit surprised that he hasn't done what NFL Head Coaches tend to do when they start coming under pressure from bad results. Blame a couple of coaches for the team misfiring, fire them and bring in a couple of new coaches to "freshen things up". It's a good call, but you can't thrown your mates under the bus. It's another thing that is symptomatic of the problems where a manager "brings in their own people". It's not just a manager who gets the shout/boot (delete as appropriate) its all the others. If a club interviews a manager, they should by rights, interview all the others that come with the package. You know I mean, like, "we want you [manager interviewee] but your defensive coach is a chancer" etc. |
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Post by owdestokie2 on Dec 4, 2023 14:41:41 GMT
My take on AN.
I wasn’t excited by his appointment however as always trying to be fair you’ve got to give the guy a chance. However monitoring his progress over time my reservations to-date have been fully justified.
Factually his Points Per Game tally over 60 odd games is poor to say the least, the number of home losses is totally unacceptable as is the current league position.
Moving onto opinion related comment (1) I find it extremely difficult to understand his team shape and tactics, (2) I could count on one hand the number of games I’ve come away from (home games) and thought “I enjoyed that” and (3) I don’t think (without the exception of 3 possibly 4) that his recruitment to-date has significantly improved the match day squad to a standard that will really push the club forward.
Whether it’s stick or twist I don’t know the answer. The one thing I’m certain about is that interest is evaporating quickly and I feel sorry for all those working behind the scenes to take the club forward with positive messaging.
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Post by femark on Dec 4, 2023 15:29:42 GMT
I don't understand this argument. It's not like they'll only play for Neil or they're perfectly suited to his style of play. The recruitment in the summer was actually good and we have a decent squad with lots of options. The new manager could also come in and make a couple of signings in January. We aren't under the same FFP restraints as previous seasons either. No- the recruitment was, again, appalling. The defensive acquisitions maybe McNally aside have been woeful and the deal with Travers naive. Further- we’ve bought too many forward players. We didn’t need Haksabanovic to sit around n gather dust for example. Wesley is appalling and anyone could have predicted that. So no, I’m sure I’m not alone in saying the recruitment was poor. Replayed Tymon n Brown with worse players. Tymon and Brown were widely condemned on this board as being useless. Now they've left and are suddenly head and shoulders above the current squad. McNally and Rose are both more than capable in this league and have proved it elsewhere; the Travers deal is a standard clause; we now have options up front, not too many; Haks will play more when fit; Wesley is effective if used properly. Another manager would get more out of them. |
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Post by robwahlmann on Dec 4, 2023 16:11:13 GMT
Excuses, excuses and excuses = Alex Neil! GET RID!  |
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Post by lordb on Dec 4, 2023 17:04:03 GMT
Presume he's here for Saturday at least
assuming we lose that one then Dave Hibbert & Shawcross to take control for the Swansea game?
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Dec 4, 2023 17:25:23 GMT
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Post by gingerninja on Dec 4, 2023 17:25:23 GMT
Would have thought some of the more informed posters, Chopper or Wherty would have been on here if there was anything in the pipeline, but like Fuller said, it was Thursday when MON was sacked.
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Post by Los Alfareros on Dec 4, 2023 17:35:07 GMT
Please have him gone before Saturday, there is literally no point in him carrying on now, he has proven he is not up to it.
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Post by Gary Hackett on Dec 4, 2023 18:45:30 GMT
I can't believe so many people think he's going to be sacked any time soon.
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Post by questionable on Dec 4, 2023 18:46:47 GMT
Anyone who thinks Gayle warrants a starting position deservedly needs sacking
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Post by teanstoke on Dec 4, 2023 18:50:35 GMT
I think we should give him a new contract , how much does a steward get.
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Post by TinkerT on Dec 4, 2023 18:57:14 GMT
IMO sack Neil now and get John Eustace !! or …..potter but I cant see the latter happening What the hell has eustace done for the jizz fest over him on this board? Absolute mental. |
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Post by gingerninja on Dec 4, 2023 18:58:14 GMT
Of course Hackett was all over the MON sacking prior to the news breaking 🤔
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